<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><div class=""><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class="">I agree that some Review Notices that have been sent out may not comply with Section 2.4(e) of the Bylaws. The sequence of events is important, and there was a very thorough discussion about this sequence in connection with the ballot.</div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><br class=""></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class="">A thumbnail sketch of the sequence:</div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><br class=""></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><ul class="MailOutline"><li class="">7-day discussion period</li><li class="">7-day voting period</li><li class="">Ballot passes the Initial Vote (if it doesn’t, stop here).</li><li class="">Chair initiates Review Period (30 or 60 days) with Review Notice to Public and Member lists</li><li class="">If no exclusion notices are filed during the Review Period, then ballot is approved.</li><li class="">If there are exclusion notices filed during the Review Period, then ballot is not approved at that time, then PAG, etc.</li></ul><div class="" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-style: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-position: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; line-height: normal;"><br class=""></div><div class="" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-style: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-position: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; line-height: normal;">So, here’s the question, was a Review Notice sent out after a Ballot passed, and, if so, did the Review Notice include the correct information? If not, the Ballot was not properly approved, a new Review Notice will need to be sent out with the correct information, and participants will need to be given a new Review Period. Otherwise, the Ballot will not be “approved” according to the Bylaws.</div><div class="" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-style: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-position: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; line-height: normal;"><br class=""></div><div class="" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-style: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-position: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; line-height: normal;">Any questions about this?</div>
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<div><br class=""><div class="">On Feb 1, 2018, at 10:33 AM, <a href="mailto:public-request@cabforum.org" class="">public-request@cabforum.org</a> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div class="">Send Public mailing list submissions to<br class=""><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span><a href="mailto:public@cabforum.org" class="">public@cabforum.org</a><br class=""><br class="">To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit<br class=""><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>https://cabforum.org/mailman/listinfo/public<br class="">or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to<br class=""><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>public-request@cabforum.org<br class=""><br class="">You can reach the person managing the list at<br class=""><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>public-owner@cabforum.org<br class=""><br class="">When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific<br class="">than "Re: Contents of Public digest..."<br class=""><br class=""><br class="">Today's Topics:<br class=""><br class=""> 1. Re: Public Digest, Vol 69, Issue 118 (Ryan Sleevi)<br class=""><br class=""><br class="">----------------------------------------------------------------------<br class=""><br class="">Message: 1<br class="">Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2018 13:32:15 -0500<br class="">From: Ryan Sleevi <sleevi@google.com><br class="">To: Kirk Hall <Kirk.Hall@entrustdatacard.com>, "CA/Browser Forum<br class=""><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>Public Discussion List" <public@cabforum.org><br class="">Cc: Virginia Fournier <vfournier@apple.com><br class="">Subject: Re: [cabfpub] Public Digest, Vol 69, Issue 118<br class="">Message-ID:<br class=""><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span><CACvaWvayCXkZ1s00FtLz+sPnM3PVQvUiJX_6FNwKBi9JKpzjOA@mail.gmail.com><br class="">Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"<br class=""><br class="">Hi Kirk,<br class=""><br class="">As mentioned previously, these Review Notices don't comply with Section<br class="">2.4(e) of the Bylaws and our IPR Policy, Section 4.1<br class=""><br class="">As per https://cabforum.org/wp-content/uploads/CABF-IPR-Policy-v.1.2.pdf<br class="">Prior to the approval of a CAB Forum Draft Guideline as a CAB Forum Final<br class="">Guideline or Final<br class="">Maintenance Guideline there shall be a review period during which<br class="">Participants may exclude<br class="">CA/B Forum Intellectual Property Rights Policy, v. 1.2 Page 2<br class="">certain Essential Claims from CAB Forum RF Licenses. The CAB Forum Chair<br class="">shall initiate the<br class="">Review Period by distributing to each CAB Forum Participant **a notice of<br class="">review period and a<br class="">complete draft of the Draft Guideline that is the subject of such notice<br class="">(?Review Notice?)**. Each<br class="">Participant on behalf of itself and its Affiliates shall have sixty (60)<br class="">days following the date of<br class="">the receipt of such Review Notice (?Review Period?) to review such Draft<br class="">Guideline and<br class="">consider any licensing obligations with respect to any Essential Claims<br class="">that may be encompassed<br class="">by such Draft Guideline. The approval of a CAB Forum Final Maintenance<br class="">Guideline shall<br class="">follow the same process except that the Review Period shall be thirty (30)<br class="">days.<br class=""><br class=""><br class="">I think the important part is "a complete draft of the Draft Guideline"<br class=""><br class="">Not a redline, but the complete draft - the fully integrated text.<br class=""><br class=""><br class="">On Thu, Feb 1, 2018 at 1:28 PM, Kirk Hall via Public <public@cabforum.org><br class="">wrote:<br class=""><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">Virginia ? yes, we have been posting Review Notices for every ballot that<br class="">changes the Guidelines since Ballot 190 to the Public list ? just search on<br class="">?Review Notice? and you should see them. Here is an example.<br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class="">*From:* Public [mailto:public-bounces@cabforum.org] *On Behalf Of *Virginia<br class="">Fournier via Public<br class="">*Sent:* Wednesday, January 31, 2018 8:09 PM<br class="">*To:* public@cabforum.org<br class="">*Subject:* [EXTERNAL]Re: [cabfpub] Public Digest, Vol 69, Issue 118<br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class="">Hi - I don?t recall seeing any Review Notices sent out pursuant to Section<br class="">2.4(e) of the Bylaws. What is happening with those?<br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class="">Best regards,<br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class="">Virginia Fournier<br class=""><br class="">Senior Standards Counsel<br class=""><br class="">? Apple Inc.<br class=""><br class="">? 669-227-9595 <(669)%20227-9595><br class=""><br class="">?? vmf@apple.com<br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class="">On Jan 27, 2018, at 4:20 PM, public-request@cabforum.org wrote:<br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class="">Send Public mailing list submissions to<br class=""> public@cabforum.org<br class=""><br class="">To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit<br class=""> https://cabforum.org/mailman/listinfo/public<br class="">or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to<br class=""> public-request@cabforum.org<br class=""><br class="">You can reach the person managing the list at<br class=""> public-owner@cabforum.org<br class=""><br class="">When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific<br class="">than "Re: Contents of Public digest..."<br class=""><br class=""><br class="">Today's Topics:<br class=""><br class=""> 1. Updated CABF documents - Record of Review Notices (Kirk Hall)<br class=""><br class=""><br class="">----------------------------------------------------------------------<br class=""><br class="">Message: 1<br class="">Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2018 00:20:52 +0000<br class="">From: Kirk Hall <Kirk.Hall@entrustdatacard.com><br class="">To: CA/Browser Forum Public Discussion List <public@cabforum.org><br class="">Subject: [cabfpub] Updated CABF documents - Record of Review Notices<br class="">Message-ID:<br class=""> <db5933c86e0a4825a58723cc548c3a67@PMSPEX04.corporate.<br class="">datacard.com><br class="">Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"<br class=""><br class="">I attached updated copies of the BRs, EVGL, and Bylaws in "show changes"<br class="">mode, in both Word and pdf format. Please review. If there are no edits,<br class="">we can finalize and post to the CABF website at the end of next week.<br class=""><br class="">A note on timing. The changes to the BRs and EVGL all come from a single<br class="">ballot, Ballot 217, which only became effective on Jan. 20, 2018 (a week<br class="">ago). Under our Bylaws, updated BRs and EVGLs should have been circulated<br class="">by last Wednesday, so I am 3 days late - I apologize for any inconvenience.<br class=""><br class="">Our Bylaws do not specify any time limit on when updated copies of the<br class="">Bylaws must be created and circulated, and these revised Bylaws include<br class="">only the changes from Ballot 216, which became effective Dec. 21, 2017 -<br class="">about five weeks ago. Again, I apologize if anyone was inconvenienced by<br class="">not receiving an updated copy of the Bylaws before today.<br class=""><br class="">I also attach a document "Record of Review Notices Since Ballot 190 (27<br class="">Jan 2018)" which indicates there have been no Exclusion Notices filed on<br class="">Guidelines ballots since Ballot 190. Members were already aware of this,<br class="">as anyone claiming an Exclusion Notice must post it to the Public list (and<br class="">none have been posted since Ballot 190), but we will maintain and update<br class="">this new document and send it out in the future on the Public list after<br class="">the Review Period for each Guidelines ballot expires.<br class="">-------------- next part --------------<br class="">An HTML attachment was scrubbed...<br class="">URL: <http://cabforum.org/pipermail/public/attachments/<br class="">20180128/bffb6a85/attachment.html><br class="">-------------- next part --------------<br class="">A non-text attachment was scrubbed...<br class="">Name: Record of Review Notices Since Ballot 190 (27 Jan 2018).pdf<br class="">Type: application/pdf<br class="">Size: 117077 bytes<br class="">Desc: Record of Review Notices Since Ballot 190 (27 Jan 2018).pdf<br class="">URL: <http://cabforum.org/pipermail/public/attachments/<br class="">20180128/bffb6a85/attachment.pdf><br class="">-------------- next part --------------<br class="">A non-text attachment was scrubbed...<br class="">Name: Record of Review Notices Since Ballot 190 (27 Jan 2018).docx<br class="">Type: application/vnd.openxmlformats-officedocument.<br class="">wordprocessingml.document<br class="">Size: 18341 bytes<br class="">Desc: Record of Review Notices Since Ballot 190 (27 Jan 2018).docx<br class="">URL: <http://cabforum.org/pipermail/public/attachments/<br class="">20180128/bffb6a85/attachment.docx><br class=""><br class="">------------------------------<br class=""><br class="">Subject: Digest Footer<br class=""><br class="">_______________________________________________<br class="">Public mailing list<br class="">Public@cabforum.org<br class="">https://cabforum.org/mailman/listinfo/public<br class=""><br class=""><br class="">------------------------------<br class=""><br class="">End of Public Digest, Vol 69, Issue 118<br class="">***************************************<br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class="">---------- Forwarded message ----------<br class="">From: Kirk Hall <Kirk.Hall@entrustdatacard.com><br class="">To: "CA/Browser Forum Public Discussion List" <public@cabforum.org><br class="">Cc:<br class="">Bcc:<br class="">Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2017 22:22:35 +0000<br class="">Subject: Notice of Review Period ? Ballot 217<br class=""><br class="">*NOTICE OF REVIEW PERIOD ? BALLOT 217*<br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class="">This Review Notice is sent pursuant to Section 4.1 of the CA/Browser<br class="">Forum?s Intellectual Property Rights Policy (v1.2). This Review Period is<br class="">for Final Maintenance Guidelines (30 day Review Period). A complete draft<br class="">of the Draft Guideline that is the subject of this Review Notice is<br class="">attached.<br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class="">Date Review Notice Sent: December 21, 2017<br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class="">Ballot for Review: Ballot 217 ? Sunset RFC 2527<br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class="">Start of Review Period: December 21, 2017 at 23:00 UTC<br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class="">End of Review Period: January 20, 2018 at 23:00 UTC<br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class="">Please forward any Exclusion Notice relating to Essential Claims to the<br class="">Chair by email to kirk.hall@entrustdatacard.com before the end of the<br class="">Review Period. See current version of CA/Browser Forum Intellectual<br class="">Property Rights Policy for details.<br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class="">*(Optional form of Exclusion Notice is attached)*<br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class="">*Ballot 217: Sunset RFC 2527*<br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class="">*-- MOTION BEGINS --*<br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class="">This ballot modifies the "Baseline Requirements for the Issuance and<br class="">Management of Publicly-Trusted Certificates" as follows, based upon Version<br class="">1.5.1:<br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class="">In Section 2.2, replace the text:<br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class="">"The CA SHALL publicly disclose its Certificate Policy and/or<br class="">Certification Practice Statement through an appropriate and readily<br class="">accessible online means that is available on a 24x7 basis. The CA SHALL<br class="">publicly disclose its CA business practices to the extent required by the<br class="">CA's selected audit scheme (see Section 8.1). The disclosures MUST include<br class="">all the material required by RFC 2527 or RFC 3647, and MUST be structured<br class="">in accordance with either RFC 2527 or RFC 3647. "<br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class="">with the following:<br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class="">"The CA SHALL publicly disclose its Certificate Policy and/or<br class="">Certification Practice Statement through an appropriate and readily<br class="">accessible online means that is available on a 24x7 basis. The CA SHALL<br class="">publicly disclose its CA business practices to the extent required by the<br class="">CA's selected audit scheme (see Section 8.1).<br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class="">Effective as of 31 May 2018, the Certificate Policy and/or Certification<br class="">Practice Statement MUST be structured in accordance with RFC 3647. Prior to<br class="">31 May 2018, the Certificate Policy and/or Certification Practice Statement<br class="">MUST be structured in accordance with either RFC 2527 or RFC 3647. The<br class="">Certificate Policy and/or Certification Practice Statement MUST include all<br class="">material required by RFC 3647 or, if structured as such, RFC 2527."<br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class="">This ballot modifies the "Guidelines for the Issuance and Management of<br class="">Extended Validation Certificates" as follows, based on Version 1.6.6:<br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class="">In Section 8.2.2, replace the text:<br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class="">"Each CA MUST publicly disclose their EV Policies through an appropriate<br class="">and readily accessible online means that is available on a 24x7 basis. The<br class="">CA is also REQUIRED to publicly disclose its CA business practices as<br class="">required by WebTrust for CAs and ETSI TS 102 042 and ETSI EN 319 411-1.<br class="">The disclosures MUST be structured in accordance with either RFC 2527 or<br class="">RFC 3647."<br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class="">With the following:<br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class="">"Each CA MUST publicly disclose its Certificate Policy and/or<br class="">Certification Practice Statement through an appropriate and readily<br class="">accessible online means that is available on a 24x7 basis. The CA SHALL<br class="">publicly disclose its CA business practices to the extent required by the<br class="">CA's selected audit scheme (see Section 17.1).<br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class="">Effective as of 31 May 2018, the CA's Certificate Policy and/or<br class="">Certification Practice Statement MUST be structured in accordance with RFC<br class="">3647. Prior to 31 May 2018, the CA's Certificate Policy and/or<br class="">Certification Practice Statement MUST be structured in accordance with<br class="">either RFC 2527 or RFC 3647. The Certificate Policy and/or Certification<br class="">Practice Statement MUST include all material required by RFC 3647 or, if<br class="">structured as such, RFC 2527."<br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class="">*-- MOTION ENDS --*<br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class="">_______________________________________________<br class="">Public mailing list<br class="">Public@cabforum.org<br class="">https://cabforum.org/mailman/listinfo/public<br class=""><br class=""><br class=""></blockquote>-------------- next part --------------<br class="">An HTML attachment was scrubbed...<br class="">URL: <http://cabforum.org/pipermail/public/attachments/20180201/d5b63453/attachment.html><br class=""><br class="">------------------------------<br class=""><br class="">Subject: Digest Footer<br class=""><br class="">_______________________________________________<br class="">Public mailing list<br class="">Public@cabforum.org<br class="">https://cabforum.org/mailman/listinfo/public<br class=""><br class=""><br class="">------------------------------<br class=""><br class="">End of Public Digest, Vol 70, Issue 4<br class="">*************************************<br class=""></div></div></div><br class=""></body></html>