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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal>That’s actually false. The IETF is not mentioned anywhere in our Bylaws.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>-Tim<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><a name="_MailEndCompose"><o:p> </o:p></a></p><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailEndCompose'></span><div style='border:none;border-left:solid blue 1.5pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt'><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b>From:</b> Public [mailto:public-bounces@cabforum.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Phillip via Public<br><b>Sent:</b> Friday, January 26, 2018 11:25 AM<br><b>To:</b> 'Corey Bonnell' <CBonnell@trustwave.com>; 'Ryan Sleevi' <sleevi@google.com>; 'CA/Browser Forum Public Discussion List' <public@cabforum.org><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [cabfpub] Draft ballot 219: Clarify handling of CAA Record Sets with no "issue"/"issuewild" property tag<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Actually it is the opposite as getting the errata into that state is a defacto precondition to getting the BR modified.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div style='border:none;border-left:solid blue 1.5pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt'><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b>From:</b> Corey Bonnell [<a href="mailto:CBonnell@trustwave.com">mailto:CBonnell@trustwave.com</a>] <br><b>Sent:</b> Friday, January 26, 2018 12:23 PM<br><b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:philliph@comodo.com">philliph@comodo.com</a>; Ryan Sleevi <<a href="mailto:sleevi@google.com">sleevi@google.com</a>>; CA/Browser Forum Public Discussion List <<a href="mailto:public@cabforum.org">public@cabforum.org</a>><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [cabfpub] Draft ballot 219: Clarify handling of CAA Record Sets with no "issue"/"issuewild" property tag<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Hello Phillip and Ryan,<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>IETF Erratum 5244 (<a href="https://clicktime.symantec.com/a/1/nSiLMX7QQ1KEbNuaamTNqoy-B2OQ5Q4Se_rwvEcVlS4=?d=uOQYEiYwP9xlhq9oU1O0IkgdcaYHDUHQv7Lgyq6BMK2v6V2madtBv4fMkEMaUirwf58pW4hVf6hrBmN-pK9GKOjY2HO7kzNebzcO0goyyIW69Ivde1tG9YtKpd72Za0_87V3KTqm_de29dLkaZZ46UNBMabVs8FUJ-aFbLHV7zC2Hi-Z2QE00MlfW5aQzMDblJX0GSFp58V41rKTcru4NdH_mXXkTd7yQMyNxHmFz9_5IoT23p4PrWLREwQ9jCr0nycDlslaaAQ7oIGgwjMLdihj-WLVlo9mJiUSPbW2mWCa3N4Ht3U89L3cGlzkwOwomraWTI8jyLnp5ecYPv3CUsTHZEdmdpu-M_piQmsOAtQIkubtKlDjAEAOsQ79TK8xwO-Vn47EDp8LyGCrtJ9iDhRnP6cAMH7K6LnwmU10ijnEMf6SrwUlH92vJbF1KVIeZvjveqJGC2ZHqm92hVVULeO8uT6EHLQ%3D&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rfc-editor.org%2Ferrata%2Feid5244">https://www.rfc-editor.org/errata/eid5244</a>) has been submitted to clarify the wording in the RFC. My original motivation for first proposing the Ballot was due to a (perhaps incorrect) impression that the process of getting an erratum into a state (such as “approved” or “held for document update”) where it is suitable for inclusion in the BRs is a lengthy process, so it would be more expedient to address the ambiguity first in the BRs. If that’s not the case, then I agree that it would be better to handle this in the same way Erratum 5065 was handled.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Thanks,<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Corey<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#428FC5'>Corey Bonnell</span></b><span style='font-size:10.5pt;color:#428FC5'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:gray'>Senior Software Engineer</span><span style='font-size:10.5pt;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:gray'>t: +1 412.395.2233</span><span style='font-size:10.5pt;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#428FC5'>Trustwave</span></b><b><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:gray'> </span></b><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:gray'>| SMART SECURITY ON DEMAND<a href="https://clicktime.symantec.com/a/1/Yyrs2Ca7GFXo9sDl_s5OK42FSaksnsNKb62IprIS9Vg=?d=uOQYEiYwP9xlhq9oU1O0IkgdcaYHDUHQv7Lgyq6BMK2v6V2madtBv4fMkEMaUirwf58pW4hVf6hrBmN-pK9GKOjY2HO7kzNebzcO0goyyIW69Ivde1tG9YtKpd72Za0_87V3KTqm_de29dLkaZZ46UNBMabVs8FUJ-aFbLHV7zC2Hi-Z2QE00MlfW5aQzMDblJX0GSFp58V41rKTcru4NdH_mXXkTd7yQMyNxHmFz9_5IoT23p4PrWLREwQ9jCr0nycDlslaaAQ7oIGgwjMLdihj-WLVlo9mJiUSPbW2mWCa3N4Ht3U89L3cGlzkwOwomraWTI8jyLnp5ecYPv3CUsTHZEdmdpu-M_piQmsOAtQIkubtKlDjAEAOsQ79TK8xwO-Vn47EDp8LyGCrtJ9iDhRnP6cAMH7K6LnwmU10ijnEMf6SrwUlH92vJbF1KVIeZvjveqJGC2ZHqm92hVVULeO8uT6EHLQ%3D&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.trustwave.com%2F"><span style='color:gray;text-decoration:none'><br>www.trustwave.com</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:gray'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><i><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:gray'>2017 Best Managed Security Service Winner – SC Media</span></i><o:p></o:p></p><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>From: </span></b><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>"<a href="mailto:philliph@comodo.com">philliph@comodo.com</a>" <<a href="mailto:philliph@comodo.com">philliph@comodo.com</a>><br><b>Date: </b>Thursday, January 25, 2018 at 10:42 AM<br><b>To: </b>Ryan Sleevi <<a href="mailto:sleevi@google.com">sleevi@google.com</a>>, CA/Browser Forum Public Discussion List <<a href="mailto:public@cabforum.org">public@cabforum.org</a>><br><b>Cc: </b>Corey Bonnell <<a href="mailto:CBonnell@trustwave.com">CBonnell@trustwave.com</a>><br><b>Subject: </b>Re: [cabfpub] Draft ballot 219: Clarify handling of CAA Record Sets with no "issue"/"issuewild" property tag<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><a name="_MailOriginalBody">+1 <o:p></o:p></a></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'>Unless the semantics are changed, an errata can be approved rather than held for document revision. Since we are not proposing to change the semantics, that would be the right approach.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'>We did have a long discussion about this with the interaction of issue and issuewild if people recall.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'>On Jan 25, 2018, at 9:09 AM, Ryan Sleevi via Public <</span><a href="mailto:public@cabforum.org"><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'>public@cabforum.org</span><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'></span></a><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'>I think the order of proposed operations is inverted - we should resolve this in IETF first, and then the CA/Browser Forum, much like the other Erratum.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'>On Wed, Jan 24, 2018 at 4:45 PM, Corey Bonnell via Public <</span><a href="mailto:public@cabforum.org" target="_blank"><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'>public@cabforum.org</span><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'></span></a><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'>Hello,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;font-variant-caps:normal;text-align:start;word-spacing:0px'><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'>I reported an ambiguity in the CAA RFC (RFC 6844) two weeks ago on the IETF LAMPS WG mailing list: </span><a href="https://clicktime.symantec.com/a/1/6g7SKl-Ah5-zDOZgA4W0MKB3jUxR4tc3F5nsVRcsq4k=?d=uOQYEiYwP9xlhq9oU1O0IkgdcaYHDUHQv7Lgyq6BMK2v6V2madtBv4fMkEMaUirwf58pW4hVf6hrBmN-pK9GKOjY2HO7kzNebzcO0goyyIW69Ivde1tG9YtKpd72Za0_87V3KTqm_de29dLkaZZ46UNBMabVs8FUJ-aFbLHV7zC2Hi-Z2QE00MlfW5aQzMDblJX0GSFp58V41rKTcru4NdH_mXXkTd7yQMyNxHmFz9_5IoT23p4PrWLREwQ9jCr0nycDlslaaAQ7oIGgwjMLdihj-WLVlo9mJiUSPbW2mWCa3N4Ht3U89L3cGlzkwOwomraWTI8jyLnp5ecYPv3CUsTHZEdmdpu-M_piQmsOAtQIkubtKlDjAEAOsQ79TK8xwO-Vn47EDp8LyGCrtJ9iDhRnP6cAMH7K6LnwmU10ijnEMf6SrwUlH92vJbF1KVIeZvjveqJGC2ZHqm92hVVULeO8uT6EHLQ%3D&u=https%3A%2F%2Fscanmail.trustwave.com%2F%3Fc%3D4062%26amp%3Bd%3D1_rp2mNHKXWEGeShIVz_Oe3YXavmy95mTxT91QgBxw%26amp%3Bs%3D5%26amp%3Bu%3Dhttps%253a%252f%252fwww%252eietf%252eorg%252fmail-archive%252fweb%252fspasm%252fcurrent%252fmsg01104%252ehtml" target="_blank"><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'><span style='color:#954F72'>https://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/spasm/current/msg01104.html</span></span><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'></span></a><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'>. Tim and Quirin responded to the initial email (links to their responses are at the bottom of that page) with excellent feedback and comments.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;font-variant-caps:normal;text-align:start;word-spacing:0px'><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;font-variant-caps:normal;text-align:start;word-spacing:0px'><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'>This issue was further discussed on last week’s Validation WG call, where it was decided that this ambiguity be resolved with a “two-pronged” approach. Specifically, to address the ambiguity in the short term, we are proposing some clarification in the wording of BR section 3.2.2.8 to allow for CAA processing consistent with the intent of the RFC. To address this ambiguity in the long term, a IETF erratum will be filed to clarify the wording in RFC 6844-bis.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;font-variant-caps:normal;text-align:start;word-spacing:0px'><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;font-variant-caps:normal;text-align:start;word-spacing:0px'><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'>I am looking for two endorsers for this Draft ballot.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;font-variant-caps:normal;text-align:start;word-spacing:0px'><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;font-variant-caps:normal;text-align:start;word-spacing:0px'><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'>The following motion has been proposed by Corey Bonnell of Trustwave and endorsed by the following CA/B Forum member representatives: XXXX and YYYY to clarify handling of CAA Record Sets with no "issue"/"issuewild" property tag as described in the Ballot.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;font-variant-caps:normal;text-align:start;word-spacing:0px'><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;font-variant-caps:normal;text-align:start;word-spacing:0px'><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>Purpose of this ballot:</span><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;font-variant-caps:normal;text-align:start;word-spacing:0px'><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'> </span><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;font-variant-caps:normal;text-align:start;word-spacing:0px'><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>RFC 6844 contains an ambiguity in regard to the correct processing of a non-empty CAA Resource Record Set that does not contain any issue property tag (and also does not contain any issuewild property tag in the case of a Wildcard Domain Name). It is ambiguous if a CA must not issue when such a CAA Resource Record Set is encountered, or if such a Resource Record Set is implicit permission to issue.</span><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;font-variant-caps:normal;text-align:start;word-spacing:0px'><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'> </span><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;font-variant-caps:normal;text-align:start;word-spacing:0px'><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>Given that the intent of the RFC is clear (such a CAA Resource Record Set is implicit permission to issue), we are proposing the following change to allow for CAA processing consistent with the intent of the RFC.</span><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;font-variant-caps:normal;text-align:start;word-spacing:0px'><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'> </span><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;font-variant-caps:normal;text-align:start;word-spacing:0px'><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>-- MOTION BEGINS --</span><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;font-variant-caps:normal;text-align:start;word-spacing:0px'><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>This ballot modifies the “Baseline Requirements for the Issuance and Management of Publicly-Trusted Certificates” as follows, based upon Version 1.5.4:</span><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;font-variant-caps:normal;text-align:start;word-spacing:0px'><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'> </span><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;font-variant-caps:normal;text-align:start;word-spacing:0px'><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>In section 3.2.2.8, add this sentence:</span><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;font-variant-caps:normal;text-align:start;word-spacing:0px'><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>CAs MAY treat a non-empty CAA Resource Record Set that does not contain any issue property tags (and also does not contain any issuewild property tags when performing CAA processing for a Wildcard Domain Name) as permission to issue, provided that the CAA Resource Record Set does not contain any<span class=m-4259538590098089935apple-converted-space> </span>unrecognized property with the critical flag set.</span><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;font-variant-caps:normal;text-align:start;word-spacing:0px'><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'> </span><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;font-variant-caps:normal;text-align:start;word-spacing:0px'><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>to the end of this paragraph:</span><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;font-variant-caps:normal;text-align:start;word-spacing:0px'><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>When processing CAA records, CAs MUST process the issue, issuewild, and iodef property tags as specified in RFC 6844, although they are not required to act on the contents of the iodef property tag. Additional property tags MAY be supported, but MUST NOT conflict with or supersede the mandatory property tags set out in this document. 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