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    <font face="Cambria">Just for the record, see </font><font
      face="Cambria"><font face="Cambria">Section 4.2.1 </font>how ETSI
      resolved the disambiguation of identical subject issue:<br>
      <br>
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.etsi.org/deliver/etsi_en/319400_319499/31941203/01.01.01_60/en_31941203v010101p.pdf">http://www.etsi.org/deliver/etsi_en/319400_319499/31941203/01.01.01_60/en_31941203v010101p.pdf</a><br>
      <br>
      Thanks,<br>
       M.D.</font><br>
    <br>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 10/22/2017 9:05 PM, Peter Bowen via
      Public wrote:<br>
    </div>
    <blockquote type="cite"
      cite="mid:944E502C-F4E2-4D28-B0A3-B72DB4408667@amzn.com">
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      <div class="">The dnQualifier is designed to add “disambiguating
        information” to Distinguished Names.  This ballot uses it for
        that purpose.  Notably I expect CAs to use it to disambiguate
        certificates where there is no distinguished name or where the
        CA has information that two certificates with identical subjects
        were issued to different entities.</div>
      <div class=""><br class="">
      </div>
      <div class="">The issue that both Li-Chun and Geoff raise appears
        to be whether we should use a different attribute type instead
        of dnQualifier.  The most obvious suggestion would be to define
        a new attribute type, under an Object Identifier arc that is
        managed by the Forum or a member.  However this results in
        real-world compatibility issues.  There are numerous products
        which error if a certificate DN contains attributes not on a
        whitelist.</div>
      <div class=""><br class="">
      </div>
      <div class="">Two examples I found with a few minutes of looking
        online:</div>
      <div class=""><br class="">
      </div>
      <div class="">Cisco VCS: "If you experience unknown ssh failures
        such as ssh tunnels failing to establish, please verify there
        are no unknown OIDs in the certificate. This can be done by
        checking that there are no undecoded numerical entries in the CN
        of the Issuer & Subject fields” (from <a
href="https://www.cisco.com/c/dam/en/us/td/docs/telepresence/infrastructure/vcs/config_guide/X8-8/Cisco-VCS-Certificate-Creation-and-Use-Deployment-Guide-X8-8.pdf"
          class="" moz-do-not-send="true">https://www.cisco.com/c/dam/en/us/td/docs/telepresence/infrastructure/vcs/config_guide/X8-8/Cisco-VCS-Certificate-Creation-and-Use-Deployment-Guide-X8-8.pdf</a>)</div>
      <div class=""><br class="">
      </div>
      <div class="">IBM Sterling B2B Integrator: “Cannot find a class
        that corresponds to Oid 1.3.6.1.4.1.311.60.2.1.1; please see
        oid.map for details” (from <a
          href="http://www-01.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?uid=swg21649708"
          class="" moz-do-not-send="true">http://www-01.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?uid=swg21649708</a>)</div>
      <div class=""><br class="">
      </div>
      <div class="">A bit of searching on “oid.map”, I did find the
        source, which is a PKIX library from Certicom.  The part of
        oid.map that seems relevant is below.  I note dnQualifier is not
        there, so maybe we should choose one of the attributes below:</div>
      <div class=""><br class="">
      </div>
      <div class="">
        <div class="">  "CommonName, CN", 2.5.4.3</div>
        <div class="">  "Surname, SN", 2.5.4.4</div>
        <div class="">  "SerialNumber", 2.5.4.5</div>
        <div class="">  "Country, C", 2.5.4.6</div>
        <div class="">  "Locality, L", 2.5.4.7</div>
        <div class="">  "StateOrProvince, ST, SP", 2.5.4.8</div>
        <div class="">  "StreetAddress, STREET", 2.5.4.9</div>
        <div class="">  "Organization, O", 2.5.4.10</div>
        <div class="">  "OrganizationUnit, OU", 2.5.4.11</div>
        <div class="">  "Title", 2.5.4.12</div>
        <div class="">  "PostalCode", 2.5.4.17</div>
        <div class="">  "PhoneNumber", 2.5.4.20</div>
        <div class="">  "EmailAddress, E", 1.2.840.113549.1.9.1</div>
        <div class="">  "rfc822Mailbox", 0.9.2342.19200300.100.1.3</div>
        <div class=""><br class="">
        </div>
        <div class="">  # Controls (from RFC-2511)</div>
        <div class="">  "Registration Token", 1.3.6.1.5.5.7.5.1.1</div>
        <div class="">  "Authenticator", 1.3.6.1.5.5.7.5.1.2</div>
        <div class="">  "Publication Information", 1.3.6.1.5.5.7.5.1.3</div>
        <div class="">  "Archive Options", 1.3.6.1.5.5.7.5.1.4</div>
        <div class="">  "OldCert ID", 1.3.6.1.5.5.7.5.1.5</div>
        <div class="">  "Protocol Encryption Key", 1.3.6.1.5.5.7.5.1.6</div>
        <div class=""><br class="">
        </div>
        <div class="">  # Registration Info (from RFC-2511)</div>
        <div class="">  "UTF8 Pairs", 1.3.6.1.5.5.7.5.2.1</div>
        <div class="">  "Cert Request", 1.3.6.1.5.5.7.5.2.2</div>
        <div class=""><br class="">
        </div>
        <div class="">  # X.500 directory stuff (from RFC-1274)</div>
        <div class="">  "userId", 0.9.2342.19200300.100.1.1</div>
        <div class=""><br class="">
        </div>
        <div class="">  # These are Trustpoint defined and are used
          between the policies and the Admin in the</div>
        <div class="">  # additional-info sent up</div>
        <div class="">  "Request-Time", 1.3.6.1.4.1.3156.11.1</div>
        <div class="">  "Integrity-Verified", 1.3.6.1.4.1.3156.11.2</div>
        <div class="">  "EE-Password", 1.3.6.1.4.1.3156.12.1</div>
        <div class="">  "EE-Certificate", 1.3.6.1.4.1.3156.12.2</div>
        <div class=""><br class="">
        </div>
        <div class="">  # Domain Component</div>
        <div class="">  "Domain Component", 0.9.2342.19200300.100.1.25</div>
        <div class="">  "IncorporationLocality",
          1.3.6.1.4.1.311.60.2.1.1</div>
        <div class="">  "OtherCountry", 1.3.6.1.4.1.311.60.2.1.3</div>
        <div class="">  "OtherState", 1.3.6.1.4.1.311.60.2.1.2</div>
        <div class="">  "BusinessCategory", 2.5.4.15</div>
      </div>
      <br class="">
      <div><br class="">
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          <div class="">On Oct 22, 2017, at 7:41 AM, 陳立群 via Public <<a
              href="mailto:public@cabforum.org" class=""
              moz-do-not-send="true">public@cabforum.org</a>> wrote:</div>
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              <div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt;
                font-family: 新細明體, serif;" class=""><span
                  style="font-family: "Times New Roman",
                  serif;" class="" lang="EN-US">I would like to second
                  Geoff's opinion about the dnQualifier attribute. In
                  the ITU-T X.520 standard, the definition of the
                  dnQualifier attribute is as the following:<o:p
                    class=""></o:p></span></div>
              <div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt;
                font-family: 新細明體, serif;" class=""><span
                  style="font-family: "Times New Roman",
                  serif;" class="" lang="EN-US"><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div>
              <div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt;
                font-family: 新細明體, serif;" class=""><span
                  style="font-family: "Times New Roman",
                  serif;" class="" lang="EN-US">The DN Qualifier
                  attribute type specifies disambiguating information to
                  add to the relative distinguished name of an entry. It
                  is intended to be used for entries held in multiple
                  DSAs which would otherwise have the same name, and
                  that its value be the same in a given DSA for all
                  entries to which this information has been added.<o:p
                    class=""></o:p></span></div>
              <div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt;
                font-family: 新細明體, serif;" class=""><span
                  style="font-family: "Times New Roman",
                  serif;" class="" lang="EN-US"><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div>
              <div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt;
                font-family: 新細明體, serif;" class=""><span
                  style="font-family: "Times New Roman",
                  serif;" class="" lang="EN-US">From what I understand,
                  the dnQualifier attribute is intended to distinguish
                  two different entities which would otherwise have the
                  same DN if they are named by different DSAs (or naming
                  authorities). Therefore, the attribute value of the
                  dnQualifier is usually used to indicate the name of
                  the DSA which is in charge of naming the entity.<o:p
                    class=""></o:p></span></div>
              <div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt;
                font-family: 新細明體, serif;" class=""><span
                  style="font-family: "Times New Roman",
                  serif;" class="" lang="EN-US"><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div>
              <div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt;
                font-family: 新細明體, serif;" class=""><span
                  style="font-family: "Times New Roman",
                  serif;" class="" lang="EN-US">If we use
                  the dnQualifier attribute in the manner proposed this
                  ballot, that will be a distortion on its original
                  definition in the X.520 standard.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div>
              <div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt;
                font-family: 新細明體, serif;" class=""><span
                  style="font-family: "Times New Roman",
                  serif;" class="" lang="EN-US"><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div>
              <div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt;
                font-family: 新細明體, serif;" class=""><span
                  style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color:
                  rgb(31, 73, 125);" class="" lang="EN-US">        <span
                    class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><span
                  style="font-family: "Times New Roman",
                  serif;" class="" lang="EN-US">Li-Chun Chen<o:p
                    class=""></o:p></span></div>
              <div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt;
                font-family: 新細明體, serif;" class=""><span
                  style="font-family: "Times New Roman",
                  serif;" class="" lang="EN-US">        Chunghwa Telecom<o:p
                    class=""></o:p></span></div>
              <div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt;
                font-family: 新細明體, serif;" class=""><span
                  style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color:
                  rgb(31, 73, 125);" class="" lang="EN-US"><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div>
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                    font-family: 新細明體, serif;" class=""><b class=""><span
                        style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma,
                        sans-serif;" class="" lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span
                      style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma,
                      sans-serif;" class="" lang="EN-US"><span
                        class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Public [<a
                        href="mailto:public-bounces@cabforum.org"
                        style="color: purple; text-decoration:
                        underline;" class="" moz-do-not-send="true">mailto:public-bounces@cabforum.org</a>]<span
                        class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><b
                        class="">On Behalf Of<span
                          class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Geoff
                      Keating via Public<br class="">
                      <b class="">Sent:</b><span
                        class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Saturday,
                      October 21, 2017 3:15 AM<br class="">
                      <b class="">To:</b><span
                        class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Ryan
                      Sleevi<br class="">
                      <b class="">Cc:</b><span
                        class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>CA/Browser
                      Forum Public Discussion List<br class="">
                      <b class="">Subject:</b><span
                        class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>[</span><span
                      style="font-size: 10pt;" class="">外部郵件</span><span
                      style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma,
                      sans-serif;" class="" lang="EN-US">] Re: [cabfpub]
                      Ballot 208 - dnQualifiers<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div>
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              <div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt;
                font-family: 新細明體, serif;" class=""><span class=""
                  lang="EN-US"><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div>
              <div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt;
                font-family: 新細明體, serif;" class=""><span class=""
                  lang="EN-US"><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div>
              <div class="">
                <div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt;
                  font-family: 新細明體, serif;" class=""><span class=""
                    lang="EN-US"><br class="">
                    <br class="">
                    <o:p class=""></o:p></span></div>
                <div class="">
                  <div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt;
                    font-family: 新細明體, serif;" class=""><span class=""
                      lang="EN-US">On Oct 20, 2017, at 11:30 AM, Ryan
                      Sleevi <<a href="mailto:sleevi@google.com"
                        style="color: purple; text-decoration:
                        underline;" class="" moz-do-not-send="true">sleevi@google.com</a>>
                      wrote:<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div>
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                <div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt;
                  font-family: 新細明體, serif;" class=""><span class=""
                    lang="EN-US"><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div>
                <div class="">
                  <div class="">
                    <div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size:
                      12pt; font-family: 新細明體, serif;" class=""><span
                        class="" lang="EN-US"><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div>
                    <div class="">
                      <div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size:
                        12pt; font-family: 新細明體, serif;" class=""><span
                          class="" lang="EN-US"><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div>
                      <div class="">
                        <div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size:
                          12pt; font-family: 新細明體, serif;" class=""><span
                            class="" lang="EN-US">On Fri, Oct 20, 2017
                            at 2:20 PM, Geoff Keating via Public <<a
                              href="mailto:public@cabforum.org"
                              target="_blank" style="color: purple;
                              text-decoration: underline;" class=""
                              moz-do-not-send="true">public@cabforum.org</a>>
                            wrote:<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div>
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                <div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt;
                  font-family: 新細明體, serif;" class=""><span class=""
                    lang="EN-US"><br class="">
                    <br class="">
                    <o:p class=""></o:p></span></div>
                <div class="">
                  <div class="">
                    <div class="">
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                            <div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;
                              font-size: 12pt; font-family: 新細明體,
                              serif;" class=""><span class=""
                                lang="EN-US">- How this matches with the
                                X.520 definition of dnQualifier, in
                                particular the second sentence:<o:p
                                  class=""></o:p></span></div>
                          </div>
                          <div class="">
                            <div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;
                              font-size: 12pt; font-family: 新細明體,
                              serif;" class=""><span class=""
                                lang="EN-US"><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div>
                          </div>
                          <div class="">
                            <div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;
                              font-size: 12pt; font-family: 新細明體,
                              serif;" class=""><span class=""
                                lang="EN-US">The DN Qualifier attribute
                                type specifies disambiguating
                                information to add to
                                the relative distinguished name of
                                an entry. It is intended to be used
                                for entries held in multiple DSAs
                                which would otherwise have the
                                same name, and that its value be the
                                same in a given DSA for all entries
                                to which this information has
                                been added.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div>
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                      </blockquote>
                      <div class="">
                        <div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size:
                          12pt; font-family: 新細明體, serif;" class=""><span
                            class="" lang="EN-US"><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div>
                      </div>
                      <div class="">
                        <div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size:
                          12pt; font-family: 新細明體, serif;" class=""><span
                            class="" lang="EN-US">This matches 1:1. Is
                            there a concern that it doesn't match, or
                            that more rules are necessary?<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div>
                      </div>
                    </div>
                  </div>
                </div>
                <div class="">
                  <div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt;
                    font-family: 新細明體, serif;" class=""><span class=""
                      lang="EN-US"><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div>
                </div>
                <div class="">
                  <div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt;
                    font-family: 新細明體, serif;" class=""><span class=""
                      lang="EN-US">What I quoted above is X.520.  It
                      doesn't seem to me to be describing the same thing
                      as the ballot.  In particular, normally you would
                      consider a CA’s issuing infrastructure to be one
                      single DSA, which produces a contradiction between
                      the ballot text "The CA MAY set the dnQualifer
                      value to the base64 encoding of the SHA1 hash of
                      the subjectAlternativeName” and X.520’s text “its
                      value be the same in a given DSA”.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div>
                </div>
                <div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt;
                  font-family: 新細明體, serif;" class=""><span class=""
                    lang="EN-US"><br class="">
                    <br class="">
                    <o:p class=""></o:p></span></div>
                <div class="">
                  <div class="">
                    <div class="">
                      <blockquote style="border-style: none none none
                        solid; border-left-width: 1pt;
                        border-left-color: rgb(204, 204, 204); padding:
                        0cm 0cm 0cm 6pt; margin-left: 4.8pt;
                        margin-right: 0cm;" class="" type="cite">
                        <div class="">
                          <div class="">
                            <div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;
                              font-size: 12pt; font-family: 新細明體,
                              serif;" class=""><span class=""
                                lang="EN-US">- How this is actually
                                intended to be used in the web PKI?<o:p
                                  class=""></o:p></span></div>
                          </div>
                          <div class="">
                            <div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;
                              font-size: 12pt; font-family: 新細明體,
                              serif;" class=""><span class=""
                                lang="EN-US"><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div>
                          </div>
                        </div>
                      </blockquote>
                      <div class="">
                        <div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size:
                          12pt; font-family: 新細明體, serif;" class=""><span
                            class="" lang="EN-US"><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div>
                      </div>
                      <div class="">
                        <div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size:
                          12pt; font-family: 新細明體, serif;" class=""><span
                            class="" lang="EN-US">As raised on our most
                            recent call, one notable thing is that this
                            allows CAs to issue single certificates for
                            domain names greater than 64 characters, at
                            a DV level, while interoperably working with
                            the Web PKI. This flows as follows:<o:p
                              class=""></o:p></span></div>
                      </div>
                      <div class="">
                        <div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size:
                          12pt; font-family: 新細明體, serif;" class=""><span
                            class="" lang="EN-US"><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div>
                      </div>
                      <div class="">
                        <div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size:
                          12pt; font-family: 新細明體, serif;" class=""><span
                            class="" lang="EN-US">- The X.509/RFC 5280
                            definition for commonName is limited to 64
                            characters.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div>
                      </div>
                      <div class="">
                        <div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size:
                          12pt; font-family: 新細明體, serif;" class=""><span
                            class="" lang="EN-US">- If you have a
                            certificate with a domain name greater than
                            64 characters, you cannot place it in the
                            common name of the subject.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div>
                      </div>
                      <div class="">
                        <div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size:
                          12pt; font-family: 新細明體, serif;" class=""><span
                            class="" lang="EN-US">- The common name of
                            the subject may only contain domain names
                            and IP addresses.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div>
                      </div>
                      <div class="">
                        <div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size:
                          12pt; font-family: 新細明體, serif;" class=""><span
                            class="" lang="EN-US">- All other specified
                            fields of the Subject must be validated to
                            OV level.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div>
                      </div>
                      <div class="">
                        <div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size:
                          12pt; font-family: 新細明體, serif;" class=""><span
                            class="" lang="EN-US"><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div>
                      </div>
                      <div class="">
                        <div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size:
                          12pt; font-family: 新細明體, serif;" class=""><span
                            class="" lang="EN-US">As a consequence, the
                            only way with DV today to represent these
                            certificates is with an empty sequence for
                            the subject name and a critical
                            subjectAltName, pursuant with RFC5280. You
                            can see this at<span
                              class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a
                              href="https://no-subject.badssl.com/"
                              style="color: purple; text-decoration:
                              underline;" class=""
                              moz-do-not-send="true">https://no-subject.badssl.com</a><o:p
                              class=""></o:p></span></div>
                      </div>
                      <div class="">
                        <div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size:
                          12pt; font-family: 新細明體, serif;" class=""><span
                            class="" lang="EN-US"><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div>
                      </div>
                      <div class="">
                        <div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size:
                          12pt; font-family: 新細明體, serif;" class=""><span
                            class="" lang="EN-US">If you tried to load
                            that on Apple iOS, it would load.<o:p
                              class=""></o:p></span></div>
                      </div>
                      <div class="">
                        <div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size:
                          12pt; font-family: 新細明體, serif;" class=""><span
                            class="" lang="EN-US">If you tried to load
                            that on Apple macOS earlier than 10.10, it
                            would load.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div>
                      </div>
                      <div class="">
                        <div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size:
                          12pt; font-family: 新細明體, serif;" class=""><span
                            class="" lang="EN-US">If you tried to load
                            that on Apple macOS since 10.10, it will
                            fail, as empty subjects are no longer
                            supported.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div>
                      </div>
                    </div>
                  </div>
                </div>
                <div class="">
                  <div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt;
                    font-family: 新細明體, serif;" class=""><span class=""
                      lang="EN-US"><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div>
                </div>
                <div class="">
                  <div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt;
                    font-family: 新細明體, serif;" class=""><span class=""
                      lang="EN-US">It works for me in 10.11—so does that
                      mean this ballot is no longer needed?<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div>
                </div>
                <div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt;
                  font-family: 新細明體, serif;" class=""><span class=""
                    lang="EN-US"><br class="">
                    <br class="">
                    <o:p class=""></o:p></span></div>
                <div class="">
                  <div class="">
                    <div class="">
                      <div class="">
                        <div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size:
                          12pt; font-family: 新細明體, serif;" class=""><span
                            class="" lang="EN-US">This provides a way
                            for a CA to ensure that a DV certificate
                            with a domain name of more than 64
                            characters can be issued, by using the
                            dnQualifier field (which is CA-controlled,
                            as noted in the relevant X.520 text you
                            cited) to serve as a disambiguator between
                            certificates the CA has issued.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div>
                      </div>
                      <div class="">
                        <div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size:
                          12pt; font-family: 新細明體, serif;" class=""><span
                            class="" lang="EN-US"><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div>
                      </div>
                      <div class="">
                        <div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size:
                          12pt; font-family: 新細明體, serif;" class=""><span
                            class="" lang="EN-US">Does that help capture
                            it?<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div>
                      </div>
                    </div>
                  </div>
                </div>
                <div class="">
                  <div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt;
                    font-family: 新細明體, serif;" class=""><span class=""
                      lang="EN-US"><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div>
                </div>
                <div class="">
                  <div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt;
                    font-family: 新細明體, serif;" class=""><span class=""
                      lang="EN-US">I see the problem but I’m very
                      hesitant to standardise something in CABforum
                      which contradicts X.520.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div>
                </div>
                <div class="">
                  <div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt;
                    font-family: 新細明體, serif;" class=""><span class=""
                      lang="EN-US"><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div>
                </div>
                <div class="">
                  <div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt;
                    font-family: 新細明體, serif;" class=""><span class=""
                      lang="EN-US">Have we really explored other
                      alternatives?  For example, truncate the
                      commonName to 60 characters and append an ellipsis
                      in Unicode (“…”) so that it can’t be confused with
                      a domain name.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div>
                </div>
                <div class="">
                  <div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt;
                    font-family: 新細明體, serif;" class=""><span class=""
                      lang="EN-US"><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div>
                </div>
                <blockquote style="margin-top: 5pt; margin-bottom: 5pt;"
                  class="" type="cite">
                  <div class="">
                    <div class="">
                      <div class="">
                        <div class="">
                          <div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;
                            font-size: 12pt; font-family: 新細明體, serif;"
                            class=""><span class="" lang="EN-US"> <o:p
                                class=""></o:p></span></div>
                        </div>
                        <blockquote style="border-style: none none none
                          solid; border-left-width: 1pt;
                          border-left-color: rgb(204, 204, 204);
                          padding: 0cm 0cm 0cm 6pt; margin-left: 4.8pt;
                          margin-right: 0cm;" class="" type="cite">
                          <div class="">
                            <div class="">
                              <div class="">
                                <blockquote style="margin-top: 5pt;
                                  margin-bottom: 5pt;" class=""
                                  type="cite">
                                  <div class="">
                                    <div class="">
                                      <div class="">
                                        <div style="margin: 0cm 0cm
                                          0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt;
                                          font-family: 新細明體, serif;"
                                          class=""><span class=""
                                            lang="EN-US">On Oct 12,
                                            2017, at 11:04 AM, Ben
                                            Wilson via Public <<a
                                              href="mailto:public@cabforum.org"
                                              target="_blank"
                                              style="color: purple;
                                              text-decoration:
                                              underline;" class=""
                                              moz-do-not-send="true">public@cabforum.org</a>>
                                            wrote:<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div>
                                      </div>
                                      <div style="margin: 0cm 0cm
                                        0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt;
                                        font-family: 新細明體, serif;"
                                        class=""><span class=""
                                          lang="EN-US"><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div>
                                    </div>
                                  </div>
                                  <div class="">
                                    <div class="">
                                      <div class="">
                                        <div class="">
                                          <p
                                            class="gmail-m-4595804663788861089line867"
                                            style="margin-right: 0cm;
                                            margin-left: 0cm; font-size:
                                            12pt; font-family: 新細明體,
                                            serif;"><strong class=""><span
                                                style="font-size: 11pt;
                                                font-family: Calibri,
                                                sans-serif;" class=""
                                                lang="EN-US">Ballot 208
                                                - dnQualifiers</span></strong><span
                                              style="font-size: 11pt;
                                              font-family: Calibri,
                                              sans-serif;" class=""
                                              lang="EN-US"><o:p class=""></o:p></span></p>
                                          <p
                                            class="gmail-m-4595804663788861089line874"
                                            style="margin-right: 0cm;
                                            margin-left: 0cm; font-size:
                                            12pt; font-family: 新細明體,
                                            serif;"><span
                                              style="font-size: 11pt;
                                              font-family: Calibri,
                                              sans-serif;" class=""
                                              lang="EN-US">This ballot
                                              allows CAs to use
                                              dnQualifiers in
                                              certificates to partition
                                              groups of certificates
                                              into different sets and to
                                              allow non-identity
                                              information to be included
                                              in DV certificates.<span
                                                class="gmail-m-4595804663788861089apple-converted-space"> </span><o:p
                                                class=""></o:p></span></p>
                                          <p
                                            class="gmail-m-4595804663788861089line862"
                                            style="margin-right: 0cm;
                                            margin-left: 0cm; font-size:
                                            12pt; font-family: 新細明體,
                                            serif;"><span
                                              style="font-size: 11pt;
                                              font-family: Calibri,
                                              sans-serif;" class=""
                                              lang="EN-US">The following
                                              motion has been proposed
                                              by Peter Bowen of Amazon
                                              and endorsed by Ben Wilson
                                              of DigiCert and Ryan
                                              Sleevi of Google.<span
                                                class="gmail-m-4595804663788861089apple-converted-space"> </span><o:p
                                                class=""></o:p></span></p>
                                          <p
                                            class="gmail-m-4595804663788861089line874"
                                            style="margin-right: 0cm;
                                            margin-left: 0cm; font-size:
                                            12pt; font-family: 新細明體,
                                            serif;"><span
                                              style="font-size: 11pt;
                                              font-family: Calibri,
                                              sans-serif;" class=""
                                              lang="EN-US">-- MOTION
                                              BEGINS --<span
                                                class="gmail-m-4595804663788861089apple-converted-space"> </span><o:p
                                                class=""></o:p></span></p>
                                          <p
                                            class="gmail-m-4595804663788861089line874"
                                            style="margin-right: 0cm;
                                            margin-left: 0cm; font-size:
                                            12pt; font-family: 新細明體,
                                            serif;"><span
                                              style="font-size: 11pt;
                                              font-family: Calibri,
                                              sans-serif;" class=""
                                              lang="EN-US">In the
                                              Baseline Requirements,
                                              REPLACE the definition of
                                              "Subject Identity
                                              Information" with:<span
                                                class="gmail-m-4595804663788861089apple-converted-space"> </span><o:p
                                                class=""></o:p></span></p>
                                          <p
                                            class="gmail-m-4595804663788861089line874"
                                            style="margin-right: 0cm;
                                            margin-left: 0cm; font-size:
                                            12pt; font-family: 新細明體,
                                            serif;"><span
                                              style="font-size: 11pt;
                                              font-family: Calibri,
                                              sans-serif;" class=""
                                              lang="EN-US">"Information
                                              that identifies the
                                              Certificate Subject.
                                              Subject Identity
                                              Information does not
                                              include [strikeout]<s
                                                class="">a domain name
                                                listed in the
                                                subjectAltName extension
                                                or the Subject
                                                commonName field</s>[/strikeout]
                                              [insert]<u class="">dnQualifier
                                                attributes in
                                                Distinguished Names,
                                                commonName attributes in
                                                Distinguished Names,
                                                dNSName Subject
                                                Alternative Names,
                                                iPAddress Subject
                                                Alternative Names, or
                                                SRVName Subject
                                                Alternative Names</u>[/insert]."<span
class="gmail-m-4595804663788861089apple-converted-space"> </span><o:p
                                                class=""></o:p></span></p>
                                          <p
                                            class="gmail-m-4595804663788861089line874"
                                            style="margin-right: 0cm;
                                            margin-left: 0cm; font-size:
                                            12pt; font-family: 新細明體,
                                            serif;"><span
                                              style="font-size: 11pt;
                                              font-family: Calibri,
                                              sans-serif;" class=""
                                              lang="EN-US">In Section
                                              7.1.4.2.2 Subject
                                              Distinguished Name Fields,
                                              re-letter "j" (Other
                                              Subject Attributes) as
                                              letter "k" and INSERT a
                                              new subsection j. that
                                              reads:<span
                                                class="gmail-m-4595804663788861089apple-converted-space"> </span><o:p
                                                class=""></o:p></span></p>
                                          <p
                                            class="gmail-m-4595804663788861089line874"
                                            style="margin-right: 0cm;
                                            margin-left: 0cm; font-size:
                                            12pt; font-family: 新細明體,
                                            serif;"><span
                                              style="font-size: 11pt;
                                              font-family: Calibri,
                                              sans-serif;" class=""
                                              lang="EN-US">j.
                                              Certificate Field:
                                              subject:dnQualifier<span
                                                class="gmail-m-4595804663788861089apple-converted-space"> </span><o:p
                                                class=""></o:p></span></p>
                                          <ul style="margin-bottom: 0cm;
                                            margin-top: 0cm;" class=""
                                            type="disc">
                                            <li class="MsoNormal"
                                              style="margin: 0cm 0cm
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                                              font-family: 新細明體, serif;"><span
                                                style="font-size: 11pt;
                                                font-family: Calibri,
                                                sans-serif;" class=""
                                                lang="EN-US">Optional.
                                                Contents: This field is
                                                intended to be used when
                                                several certificates
                                                with the same subject
                                                can be partitioned into
                                                sets of related
                                                certificates. Each
                                                related certificate set
                                                MAY have the same
                                                dnQualifier. The CA may
                                                include a dnQualifier
                                                attribute with a zero
                                                length value to
                                                explicitly indicate that
                                                the CA makes no
                                                assertion about
                                                relationship with other
                                                certificates with the
                                                same subject. The CA MAY
                                                set the dnQualifer value
                                                to the base64 encoding
                                                of the SHA1 hash of the
                                                subjectAlternativeName
                                                extnValue if it wishes
                                                to indicate grouping of
                                                certificates by
                                                alternative name set.<span
class="gmail-m-4595804663788861089apple-converted-space"> </span><o:p
                                                  class=""></o:p></span></li>
                                          </ul>
                                          <p
                                            class="gmail-m-4595804663788861089line874"
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                                            serif;"><span
                                              style="font-size: 11pt;
                                              font-family: Calibri,
                                              sans-serif;" class=""
                                              lang="EN-US">-- MOTION
                                              ENDS --<span
                                                class="gmail-m-4595804663788861089apple-converted-space"> </span><o:p
                                                class=""></o:p></span></p>
                                          <p
                                            class="gmail-m-4595804663788861089line874"
                                            style="margin-right: 0cm;
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                                            serif;"><span
                                              style="font-size: 11pt;
                                              font-family: Calibri,
                                              sans-serif;" class=""
                                              lang="EN-US">The procedure
                                              for approval of this Final
                                              Maintenance Guideline
                                              ballot is as follows
                                              (exact start and end times
                                              may be adjusted to comply
                                              with applicable Bylaws and
                                              IPR Agreement):<span
                                                class="gmail-m-4595804663788861089apple-converted-space"> </span><o:p
                                                class=""></o:p></span></p>
                                          <p
                                            class="gmail-m-4595804663788861089line874"
                                            style="margin-right: 0cm;
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                                            serif;"><span
                                              style="font-size: 11pt;
                                              font-family: Calibri,
                                              sans-serif;" class=""
                                              lang="EN-US">BALLOT 208
                                              Status: Final Maintenance
                                              Guideline Start time
                                              (22:00 UTC) End time
                                              (22:00 UTC)<span
                                                class="gmail-m-4595804663788861089apple-converted-space"> </span><o:p
                                                class=""></o:p></span></p>
                                          <p
                                            class="gmail-m-4595804663788861089line874"
                                            style="margin-right: 0cm;
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                                            12pt; font-family: 新細明體,
                                            serif;"><span
                                              style="font-size: 11pt;
                                              font-family: Calibri,
                                              sans-serif;" class=""
                                              lang="EN-US">Discussion
                                              begins October 12, 2017
                                              22:00 UTC and ends October
                                              19, 2017 22:00 UTC (7
                                              days)<span
                                                class="gmail-m-4595804663788861089apple-converted-space"> </span><o:p
                                                class=""></o:p></span></p>
                                          <p
                                            class="gmail-m-4595804663788861089line874"
                                            style="margin-right: 0cm;
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                                            12pt; font-family: 新細明體,
                                            serif;"><span
                                              style="font-size: 11pt;
                                              font-family: Calibri,
                                              sans-serif;" class=""
                                              lang="EN-US">Vote for
                                              approval begins October
                                              19, 2017 22:00 UTC and
                                              ends October 26, 2017
                                              22:00 UTC (7 days)<span
                                                class="gmail-m-4595804663788861089apple-converted-space"> </span><o:p
                                                class=""></o:p></span></p>
                                          <p
                                            class="gmail-m-4595804663788861089line874"
                                            style="margin-right: 0cm;
                                            margin-left: 0cm; font-size:
                                            12pt; font-family: 新細明體,
                                            serif;"><span
                                              style="font-size: 11pt;
                                              font-family: Calibri,
                                              sans-serif;" class=""
                                              lang="EN-US">If vote
                                              approves ballot: Review
                                              Period (Chair to send
                                              Review Notice) (30 days).
                                              If Exclusion Notice(s)
                                              filed, ballot approval is
                                              rescinded and PAG to be
                                              created. If no Exclusion
                                              Notices filed, ballot
                                              becomes effective at end
                                              of Review Period. Upon
                                              filing of Review Notice by
                                              Chair 30 days after filing
                                              of Review Notice by Chair<span
class="gmail-m-4595804663788861089apple-converted-space"> </span><o:p
                                                class=""></o:p></span></p>
                                          <p
                                            class="gmail-m-4595804663788861089line874"
                                            style="margin-right: 0cm;
                                            margin-left: 0cm; font-size:
                                            12pt; font-family: 新細明體,
                                            serif;"><span
                                              style="font-size: 11pt;
                                              font-family: Calibri,
                                              sans-serif;" class=""
                                              lang="EN-US">From Bylaw
                                              2.3: If the Draft
                                              Guideline Ballot is
                                              proposing a Final
                                              Maintenance Guideline,
                                              such ballot will include a
                                              redline or comparison
                                              showing the set of changes
                                              from the Final Guideline
                                              section(s) intended to
                                              become a Final Maintenance
                                              Guideline, and need not
                                              include a copy of the full
                                              set of guidelines. Such
                                              redline or comparison
                                              shall be made against the
                                              Final Guideline section(s)
                                              as they exist at the time
                                              a ballot is proposed, and
                                              need not take into
                                              consideration other
                                              ballots that may be
                                              proposed subsequently,
                                              except as provided in
                                              Bylaw Section 2.3(j).<span
class="gmail-m-4595804663788861089apple-converted-space"> </span><o:p
                                                class=""></o:p></span></p>
                                          <p
                                            class="gmail-m-4595804663788861089line862"
                                            style="margin-right: 0cm;
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                                            serif;"><span
                                              style="font-size: 11pt;
                                              font-family: Calibri,
                                              sans-serif;" class=""
                                              lang="EN-US">Votes must be
                                              cast by posting an on-list
                                              reply to this thread on
                                              the Public list. A vote in
                                              favor of the motion must
                                              indicate a clear 'yes' in
                                              the response. A vote
                                              against must indicate a
                                              clear 'no' in the
                                              response. A vote to
                                              abstain must indicate a
                                              clear 'abstain' in the
                                              response. Unclear
                                              responses will not be
                                              counted. The latest vote
                                              received from any
                                              representative of a voting
                                              member before the close of
                                              the voting period will be
                                              counted. Voting members
                                              are listed here:<span
                                                class="gmail-m-4595804663788861089apple-converted-space"> </span><a
href="https://cabforum.org/members/" target="_blank" style="color:
                                                purple; text-decoration:
                                                underline;" class=""
                                                moz-do-not-send="true"><span
                                                  style="color: rgb(149,
                                                  79, 114);" class="">https://cabforum.org/members/</span></a><o:p
                                                class=""></o:p></span></p>
                                          <p
                                            class="gmail-m-4595804663788861089line874"
                                            style="margin-right: 0cm;
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                                            serif;"><span
                                              style="font-size: 11pt;
                                              font-family: Calibri,
                                              sans-serif;" class=""
                                              lang="EN-US">In order for
                                              the motion to be adopted,
                                              two thirds or more of the
                                              votes cast by members in
                                              the CA category and
                                              greater than 50% of the
                                              votes cast by members in
                                              the browser category must
                                              be in favor. Quorum is
                                              shown on CA/Browser Forum
                                              wiki. Under Bylaw 2.2(g),
                                              at least the required
                                              quorum number must
                                              participate in the ballot
                                              for the ballot to be
                                              valid, either by voting in
                                              favor, voting against, or
                                              abstaining.<span
                                                class="gmail-m-4595804663788861089apple-converted-space"> </span><o:p
                                                class=""></o:p></span></p>
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                                        lang="EN-US"><pre-ballot-208-dnQualifier.pdf></span><span
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