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<font face="Cambria">How about:<br>
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BR/EVG --> Webtrust/ETSI schemes --> <b>Root Store schemes</b>
--> Audit report --> CP/CPS --> Binding RPA/Subscriber
Agreement</font><br>
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Thanks,<br>
M.D<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 10/13/2017 12:58 AM, Ryan Sleevi via
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Oct 12, 2017 at 5:38 PM,
Virginia Fournier via Public <span dir="ltr"><<a
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<span style="font-size:14px">Date: Fri, 13 Oct
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<span style="font-size:14px">From: "Moudrick
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<span style="font-size:14px">Subject: Re:
[cabfpub] Limitation of Liability and
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<span style="font-size:14px">Could you
please explain why you think BR and EV
Requirements are only </span><br
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<span style="font-size:14px">binding on
members of the Forum?</span><br
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<span style="font-size:14px">Thanks,</span><br
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<span style="font-size:14px">M.D.</span></span></span></div>
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style="font-size:14px">Hi M.D.</span></span></div>
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style="font-size:14px">I can see why this
would be hard to understand.</span></span></div>
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who are not members of the Forum have nothing
that would legally bind them to abide by those
limitations. They aren’t members, so they
aren’t bound by any of the Forum documents -
Bylaws, Baseline Requirements, etc. They
don’t have a written agreement with the Forum
to abide by certain requirements, so they’re
not bound that way either. </span></div>
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<div>Members of the Forum also aren't bound to abide by the
Baseline Requirements.</div>
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<div>Given this, does that resolve your concern?</div>
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best way to make the limitations binding on
the Subscribers, Relying Parties, etc. would
be for the CAs to enter into agreements with
those parties, and try to get them to agree to
the limitations. But, again, they could just
ignore the limitations.</span></div>
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<div>Perhaps phrased differently - the BRs describe what
such agreements MUST and SHOULD contain. This is allowing
a further modification (a MAY) to such agreements. The
enforcement and requirement that CAs agreements do or do
not contain such provisions is done by the root stores
that individual CAs partner with - not by the Forum.</div>
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<div>No member of the Forum is bound to abide by the
Baseline Requirements by the Forum. The only document any
member is bound to is to the IPR policy (as per the mutual
contracts signed). </div>
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