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<div class="">Having carefully read the definitions, I’m fine with them.</div>
<div class="">The only « invention » is the X-label (and of course the « Conforming xxx »), and one consequence is that an X-label cannot be an A-label. I.e. a dNSName cannot contain a Domain Name for which one of the labels starts with xn-- and also contains
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<div class="">I wouldn’t be surprised if some admins come up in the future, setup some DNS names as both (xn-- and _), and request a certificate for it. Let’s hope CAs will reject such requests, as they certainly reject requests for non LDH labels.</div>
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<div class="">Cordialement,</div>
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<div class="">Le 27 juil. 2017 à 15:07, Peter Bowen <<a href="mailto:pzb@amzn.com" class="">pzb@amzn.com</a>> a écrit :</div>
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<div style="orphans: 2; widows: 2;" class="">I appreciate the feedback on the terminology. You have all pointed out similar concerns, namely that Domain Name, FQDN, Domain Label, etc all have existing well known meanings and trying to overload them only confuses
things and may have unintended consequences. After reviewing the feedback, I think it makes sense to use existing external definitions for existing terms and define our own distinct ones where we mean something specific for the BRs. Paul suggested looking
to RFC 7719, "<span style="orphans: 2; widows: 2;" class=""><span style="font-size: 1em;" class="">DNS Terminology</span>”<span style="font-size: 1em;" class="">, which I think makes sense. </span></span>What do you think of the following definitions and proposed
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<div class="">A-label: As defined in RFC 5890: A valid the ASCII-Compatible Encoding form of an IDNA-valid string</div>
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<div class="">Conforming FQDN: A Fully-Qualified Domain Name where each label is either an A-label, Non-reserved LDH label, or X-label and that does not include the final, zero-length label of the root. “<a href="http://www.example.com/" class="">www.example.com</a>”
and “<a href="http://example.net/" class="">example.net</a>” are Conforming FQDNs.</div>
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<div class="">Conforming Wildcard Domain Name: A string starting with "*." (U+002A ASTERISK, U+002E FULL STOP) immediately followed by a Conforming FQDN. “*.<a href="http://example.com/" class="">example.com</a>” is a Conforming Wildcard Domain Name.</div>
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<div class="">Domain Label: A “label” as defined in RFC 7719</div>
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<div class="">Domain Name: As defined in RFC 7719</div>
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<div class="">Fully-Qualified Domain Name: As defined in RFC 7719</div>
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<div class="">LDH Label: As defined in RFC 5890: a label with the "preferred name syntax" in Section 3.5 of RFC 1034 [RFC1034] as modified by RFC 1123 [RFC1123]</div>
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<div class="">Non-reserved LDH Label: As defined in RFC 5890: A valid LDH label that does not have "--" in the third and fourth positions</div>
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<div class="">X-label: A Non-LDH label which contains one or more "_" (U+005F LOW LINE) characters and where replacing every LOW LINE character with a "-" (U+002D HYPHEN-MINUS) character results in a LDH label.</div>
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<div class="">Then in section 7.1.4.2.1:</div>
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<div class="">Subject Alternative Name Extension Contents: This extension MUST contain at least one entry. Each entry MUST be one of the following types:</div>
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<div class="">dNSName: the entry MUST contain either a Conforming FQDN or a Conforming Wildcard Domain Name that the CA has validated in accordance with section 3.2.2.4. Conforming FQDNs and the FQDN portion of Conforming Wildcard Domain Names must comply with
RFC 5280 section 4.2.1.6 with the exception that they may contain X-labels. CAs MUST additionally validate that Wildcard Domain Names are consistent with section 3.2.2.6. The entry MUST NOT contain an Internal Name.</div>
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<div class="">On Jul 25, 2017, at 11:39 AM, Erwann Abalea via Public <<a href="mailto:public@cabforum.org" class="">public@cabforum.org</a>> wrote:</div>
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<div class="">DocuSign France votes No.</div>
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<div class="">While there are good clarifications around domain names, FQDNs, wildcards, and reserved labels, there are a few drawbacks:</div>
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<div class="">1. Underscores in SAN:dNSName entries. It’s not the current BR that disallows underscores in dNSNames, it’s X.509 and RFC5280 (and current DNS specifications), and there is no justification about allowing underscores other than « it’s done by
some admins » or « Microsoft allows it ». While domain names can contain anything (even characters such as '[({*$!?" ), dNSName shall contain a host name, and host names shall only be composed of LDH labels. I’d prefer the standards to be changed instead of
explicitly allowing deviations from the standard.</div>
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<div class="">2. « Reserved IP address ». The new definition now allows a CA to deliver a certificate for an obviously invalid IP (I doubt anyone could claim « owning » 192.0.0.9 or 192.0.0.10, and I haven’t fully checked the others).</div>
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<div class="">3. « Wildcard Domain Name ». The new definition is not robust enough. An FQDN is a sequence of Domain Labels —which can contain any character—, so « *.<a href="http://domain.com/" class="">domain.com</a> » is a valid FQDN, so « *.*.<a href="http://domain.com/" class="">domain.com</a> »
is a valid Wildcard Domain Name according to this definition.</div>
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<div class="">Cordialement,</div>
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<div class="">Le 12 juil. 2017 à 19:24, Ben Wilson via Public <<a href="mailto:public@cabforum.org" class="">public@cabforum.org</a>> a écrit :</div>
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<strong class="">Ballot 202 - Underscore and Wildcard Characters</strong><o:p class=""></o:p></p>
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The current Baseline Requirements do not expressly allow underscore characters in Subject Alternative Names. This ballot seeks to clarify that one or more underscore characters (“_”) are allowed in FQDNs. In many places it also replaces the term "FQDN" with
"Domain Name" because "Domain Name" now means either "FQDN" or "Wildcard Domain Name". The ballot clarifies validation of wildcard domain names. It also cleans up some of the language in Sections 3.2.2.4 and 7.1.4.2.1 of the Baseline Requirements.<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><o:p class=""></o:p></p>
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The following motion has been proposed by Ben Wilson of DigiCert and endorsed by Peter Bowen of Amazon and Ryan Sleevi of Google to introduce new Final Maintenance Guidelines for the "Baseline Requirements Certificate Policy for the Issuance and Management
of Publicly-Trusted Certificates" (Baseline Requirements).<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><o:p class=""></o:p></p>
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A. In Sections 1.3.2, 1.6 (Base Domain Name), 2.2, 3.2.2.4, 3.2.2.4.5, 3.2.2.4.6, 3.2.2.4.10, 3.2.2.4.11, 4.2.1, 4.9.1.1.6, and 4.9.11 of the Baseline Requirements, REPLACE the words "Fully Qualified Domain Name" and "FQDN" with "Domain Name".<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><o:p class=""></o:p></p>
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B. In Section 1.6.1 of the Baseline Requirements, REPLACE the definition for "Authorization Domain Name" with the following: The Domain Name used to obtain authorization for certificate issuance for a given Domain Name. The CA may use the FQDN returned from
a DNS CNAME lookup as the Domain Name for the purposes of domain validation. If the Domain Name is a Wildcard Domain Name, then the CA MUST remove “*.” from the left most portion of requested Domain Name. The CA may prune zero or more labels from left to right
until encountering a Base Domain Name and may use any one of the intermediate values for the purpose of domain validation.<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><o:p class=""></o:p></p>
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C. In Section 1.6.1 of the Baseline Requirements, INSERT the following definition: "Domain Label: An individual component of a Domain Name."<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><o:p class=""></o:p></p>
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D. In Section 1.6.1 of the Baseline Requirements, REPLACE the definition for "Domain Name" with the following: A set of one or more Domain Labels, each separated by a single full stop character (".").<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><o:p class=""></o:p></p>
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E. In Section 1.6.1 of the Baseline Requirements, REPLACE the definition for "Fully-Qualified Domain Name" with the following: A Domain Name that includes the Domain Labels of all superior nodes in the Internet Domain Name System.<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><o:p class=""></o:p></p>
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F. In Section 1.6.1 of the Baseline Requirements, REPLACE the definition for "Reserved IP Address" with the following: An IPv4 or IPv6 address that the IANA has "False" for Globally Reachable in either of the IANA Special-Purpose IP Address Registries:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><o:p class=""></o:p></p>
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<a href="https://www.iana.org/assignments/iana-ipv4-special-registry/iana-ipv4-special-registry.xhtml" style="color: rgb(149, 79, 114); text-decoration: underline;" class="">https://www.iana.org/assignments/iana-ipv4-special-registry/iana-ipv4-special-registry.xhtml</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>or<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><o:p class=""></o:p></p>
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<a href="https://www.iana.org/assignments/iana-ipv6-special-registry/iana-ipv6-special-registry.xhtml" style="color: rgb(149, 79, 114); text-decoration: underline;" class="">https://www.iana.org/assignments/iana-ipv6-special-registry/iana-ipv6-special-registry.xhtml</a><o:p class=""></o:p></p>
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G. In Section 1.6.1 of the Baseline Requirements, REPLACE the definition for "Wildcard Certificate" with the following: A Certificate containing a Wildcard Domain Name in any of the Subject Alternative Names in the Certificate.<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><o:p class=""></o:p></p>
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H. In Section 1.6.1 of the Baseline Requirements, INSERT the following definition: "Wildcard Domain Name: A Domain Name consisting of a single asterisk character ("*") followed by a single full stop character (".") followed by a Fully-Qualified Domain Name."<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><o:p class=""></o:p></p>
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I. In Section 2.2 of the Baseline Requirements, INSERT the word "requested" in the fourth sentence between the words "processing CAA records for" and "Domain Names" so that it reads, "processing CAA records for requested Domain Names".<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><o:p class=""></o:p></p>
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J. REPLACE the second paragraph of Section 3.2.2.4 of the Baseline Requirements so that it reads, "The CA SHALL confirm that, as of the date the Certificate issues, the CA has validated each Domain Name listed in the Certificate using at least one of the methods
listed below, or is within the Domain Namespace of a Fully Qualified Domain Name (FQDN) that has been validated using at least one of the methods listed below (not including the method defined in section 3.2.2.4.8)."<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><o:p class=""></o:p></p>
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K. REPLACE Section 3.2.2.6 of the Baseline Requirements in its entirety with:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><o:p class=""></o:p></p>
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3.2.2.6. Additional Validation for Wildcard Certificates<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><o:p class=""></o:p></p>
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Before issuing a Wildcard Certificate, the CA MUST establish and follow a documented procedure[^pubsuffix] that determines if the FQDN portion of any Wildcard Domain Name in the certificate is “registry-controlled” or is a “public suffix” (e.g. “*.com”, “*.<a href="http://co.uk/" style="color: rgb(149, 79, 114); text-decoration: underline;" class="">co.uk</a>”,
see RFC 6454 Section 8.2 for further explanation).<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><o:p class=""></o:p></p>
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If the FQDN portion of any Wildcard Domain Name in the certificate is "registry-controlled" or is a "public suffix", CAs MUST refuse issuance unless the applicant proves its rightful control of the entire Domain Namespace. (e.g. CAs MUST NOT issue "*.<a href="http://co.uk/" style="color: rgb(149, 79, 114); text-decoration: underline;" class="">co.uk</a>"
or "*.local", but MAY issue "*.<a href="http://example.com/" style="color: rgb(149, 79, 114); text-decoration: underline;" class="">example.com</a>" to Example Co.).<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><o:p class=""></o:p></p>
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[^pubsuffix] Determination of what is “registry-controlled” versus the registerable portion of a Country Code Top-Level Domain Namespace is not standardized at the time of writing and is not a property of the DNS itself. Current best practice is to consult
a “public suffix list” such as<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="http://publicsuffix.org/" style="color: rgb(149, 79, 114); text-decoration: underline;" class="">http://publicsuffix.org/</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>(PSL),
and to retrieve a fresh copy regularly. If using the PSL, a CA SHOULD consult the "ICANN DOMAINS" section only, not the "PRIVATE DOMAINS" section. The PSL is updated regularly to contain new gTLDs delegated by ICANN, which are listed in the "ICANN DOMAINS"
section. A CA is not prohibited from issuing a Wildcard Certificate to the Registrant of an entire gTLD, provided that control of the entire namespace is demonstrated in an appropriate way.<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><o:p class=""></o:p></p>
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L. REPLACE Section 7.1.4.2.1 of the Baseline Requirements in its entirety with:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><o:p class=""></o:p></p>
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7.1.4.2.1 Subject Alternative Name Extension<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><o:p class=""></o:p></p>
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Certificate Field: extensions:subjectAltName<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><o:p class=""></o:p></p>
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Required/Optional: Required<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><o:p class=""></o:p></p>
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Contents: This extension MUST contain at least one entry. Each entry MUST be one of the following types:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><o:p class=""></o:p></p>
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1. dNSName: the entry MUST contain either a Fully-Qualified Domain Name or Wildcard Domain Name that the CA has validated in accordance with section 3.2.2.4. FQDNs and the FQDN portion of Wildcard DNs must comply with RFC 5280 section 4.2.1.6 with the following
exception: underscore characters ("_") are allowed in Domain Labels such that replacing all underscore characters with hyphen characters ("-") would result in a valid Domain Label. CAs MUST NOT include Domain Labels which have hyphens as the third and fourth
characters unless the first character is "x" or "X", the second character is "n" or "N", and the fifth and later characters are a valid Punycode string. CAs MUST additionally validate that Wildcard DNs are consistent with section 3.2.2.6. The entry MUST NOT
contain an Internal Name.<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><o:p class=""></o:p></p>
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2. iPAddress: the entry MUST contain an IP address that the CA has validated in accordance with Section 3.2.2.5. The entry MUST NOT contain a Reserved IP Address.<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><o:p class=""></o:p></p>
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M. REPLACE subsection a. of Section 7.1.4.2.2 of the Baseline Requirements with:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><o:p class=""></o:p></p>
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a. Certificate Field: subject:commonName (OID 2.5.4.3)<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><o:p class=""></o:p></p>
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Required/Optional: Deprecated (Discouraged, but not prohibited)<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><o:p class=""></o:p></p>
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Contents: If present, this field MUST contain a single IP address or Domain Name that is one of the values contained in the Certificate’s subjectAltName extension (see Section 7.1.4.2.1). When including a Domain Name in a common name, CAs MUST only use LDH
labels as defined in RFC 5890 and MUST NOT use U-labels. When including an IPv6 address in a common name, CAs MUST use a format conforming to Section 4 or Section 5 of RFC 5952. When including an IPv4 address in a common name, CAs MUST encode the name as an
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The procedure for approval of this Final Maintenance Guideline ballot is as follows (exact start and end times may be adjusted to comply with applicable Bylaws and IPR Agreement):<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><o:p class=""></o:p></p>
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BALLOT 202 Status: Final Maintenance Guideline Start time (22:00 UTC) End time (22:00 UTC)<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><o:p class=""></o:p></p>
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Discussion (7 to 14 days) July 12, 2017 to July 19, 2017<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><o:p class=""></o:p></p>
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Vote for approval (7 days) July 19, 2017 to July 26, 2017<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><o:p class=""></o:p></p>
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If a vote of the Forum approves this ballot, the Chair will initiate a 30-day IPR Review Period by sending out an IPR Review Notice.<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><o:p class=""></o:p></p>
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After 30 days of announcing the IPR Review period by the Chair:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><o:p class=""></o:p></p>
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(a) If Exclusion Notice(s) are filed, this ballot approval is rescinded and a PAG will be created; or (b) If no Exclusion Notices are filed, this ballot becomes effective at end of the IPR Review Period.<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><o:p class=""></o:p></p>
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From Bylaw 2.3: If the Draft Guideline Ballot is proposing a Final Maintenance Guideline, such ballot will include a redline or comparison showing the set of changes from the Final Guideline section(s) intended to become a Final Maintenance Guideline, and need
not include a copy of the full set of guidelines. Such redline or comparison shall be made against the Final Guideline section(s) as they exist at the time a ballot is proposed, and need not take into consideration other ballots that may be proposed subsequently,
except as provided in Bylaw Section 2.3(j).<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><o:p class=""></o:p></p>
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Votes must be cast by posting an on-list reply to this thread on the Public list. A vote in favor of the motion must indicate a clear 'yes' in the response. A vote against must indicate a clear 'no' in the response. A vote to abstain must indicate a clear 'abstain'
in the response. Unclear responses will not be counted. The latest vote received from any representative of a voting member before the close of the voting period will be counted. Voting members are listed here:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="https://cabforum.org/members/" style="color: rgb(149, 79, 114); text-decoration: underline;" class="">https://cabforum.org/members/</a><o:p class=""></o:p></p>
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In order for the motion to be adopted, two thirds or more of the votes cast by members in the CA category and greater than 50% of the votes cast by members in the browser category must be in favor. Quorum is half of the number of currently active Members, which
is the average number of Member organizations that have participated in the previous three Forum-wide meetings (both teleconferences and face-to-face meetings). Under Bylaw 2.2(g), at least the required quorum number must participate in the ballot for the
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