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    <font face="Cambria">Thanks, Ryan, I agree "or" doesn't make it
      clear. I'm going to suggest slightly refined (2).<br>
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      Thanks,<br>
      M.D.<br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 7/26/2017 1:13 AM, Ryan Sleevi
      wrote:<br>
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      <div dir="ltr">Moudrick,
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        <div>To make sure I understand - you're trying to understand
          whether you have to limit liability in both cases or neither
          case, correct? That is, you're reading it as your options are
          (A AND B) or NOT (A or B)<br>
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        <div>By proposing "OR", I'm not sure it brings the clarity, if
          that's the case, since it would read</div>
        <div>(A OR B) or NOT (A AND B)</div>
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        <div>I think the intent is to be and/or - which would mean your
          options are (a), (b), (a) and (b), or neither (a) or (b).</div>
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        <div>Does that work - changing it to "and/or" ?</div>
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        <div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Jul 25, 2017 at 6:09 PM,
          Moudrick M. Dadashov via Public <span dir="ltr"><<a
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            <div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000"> <font face="Cambria">Hi
                Ben,<br>
                <br>
                could it be "or" between (1) and (2)?<br>
                <br>
                Thanks,<br>
                M.D.<br>
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                  <div class="m_2742116077769574860moz-cite-prefix">On
                    7/25/2017 11:59 PM, Ben Wilson via Public wrote:<br>
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                      <p class="MsoNormal">Here is another pre-ballot
                        for discussion.</p>
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                      <p class="MsoNormal"><b>Ballot 209 - EV Liability</b></p>
                      <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                      <p class="MsoNormal">In Section 18 of the EV
                        Guidelines, add the following sentences to the
                        end of the first paragraph:</p>
                      <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                      <p class="MsoNormal">Notwithstanding the
                        foregoing, a CA MAY limit its liability to
                        Subscribers or Relying Parties for legally
                        recognized and provable claims to: (1) one
                        hundred thousand US dollars – aggregated across
                        all claims, Subscribers, and Relying Parties –
                        per EV Certificate; and (2) five million US
                        dollars – aggregated across all claims,
                        Subscribers, and Relying Parties – for all EV
                        Certificates issued by the CA during any
                        continuous 12-month period. These limitations
                        are notwithstanding anything in the Baseline
                        Requirements purportedly to the contrary.</p>
                      <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                      <p class="MsoNormal">Such that Section 18 of the
                        EV Guidelines would read:</p>
                      <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                      <p class="MsoNormal">CAs MAY limit their liability
                        as described in Section 9.8 of the Baseline
                        Requirements except that a CA MAY NOT limit its
                        liability to Subscribers or Relying Parties for
                        legally recognized and provable claims to a
                        monetary amount less than two thousand US
                        dollars per Subscriber or Relying Party per EV
                        Certificate. <u>Notwithstanding the foregoing,
                          a CA MAY limit its liability to Subscribers or
                          Relying Parties for legally recognized and
                          provable claims to: (1) one hundred thousand
                          US dollars – aggregated across all claims,
                          Subscribers, and Relying Parties – per EV
                          Certificate; and (2) five million US dollars –
                          aggregated across all claims, Subscribers, and
                          Relying Parties – for all EV Certificates
                          issued by the CA during any continuous
                          12-month period. These limitations are
                          notwithstanding anything in the Baseline
                          Requirements purportedly to the contrary</u>.</p>
                      <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                      <p class="MsoNormal">A CA's indemnification
                        obligations and a Root CA’s obligations with
                        respect to subordinate CAs are set forth in
                        Section 9.9 of the Baseline Requirements.</p>
                      <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                      <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:2.0pt"><b><span
style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#0174c3">Ben
                            Wilson, JD, CISA, CISSP</span></b></p>
                      <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:2.0pt"><span
style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#686869">VP
                          Compliance</span></p>
                      <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:2.0pt"><span
style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#686869">+1 <a
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                            value="+18017019678" target="_blank">801 701
                            9678</a></span></p>
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