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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body bgcolor=white lang=EN-US link="#0563C1" vlink="#954F72"><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><a name="_MailEndCompose"><span style='color:windowtext'>No. Because they MAY do both. An “or” would mean that they have to choose between the two, which isn’t the intent.<o:p></o:p></span></a></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailEndCompose'><span style='color:windowtext'><o:p> </o:p></span></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:2.0pt'><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailEndCompose'><b><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#0174C3'>Ben Wilson, JD, CISA, CISSP<o:p></o:p></span></b></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:2.0pt'><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailEndCompose'><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#686869'>VP Compliance<o:p></o:p></span></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:2.0pt'><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailEndCompose'><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#686869'>+1 801 701 9678<o:p></o:p></span></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailEndCompose'><span style='color:windowtext'><img width=133 height=29 style='width:1.3875in;height:.3in' id="_x0000_i1026" src="cid:image001.jpg@01D30560.997705F0"><o:p></o:p></span></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailEndCompose'><span style='color:windowtext'><o:p> </o:p></span></span></p><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailEndCompose'></span><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='color:windowtext'>From:</span></b><span style='color:windowtext'> Moudrick M. Dadashov [mailto:md@ssc.lt] <br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, July 25, 2017 4:09 PM<br><b>To:</b> Ben Wilson <ben.wilson@digicert.com>; CA/Browser Forum Public Discussion List <public@cabforum.org><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [cabfpub] Pre-Ballot 209 EV Liability<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='font-family:"Cambria",serif'>Hi Ben,<br><br>could it be "or" between (1) and (2)?<br><br>Thanks,<br>M.D.</span><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>On 7/25/2017 11:59 PM, Ben Wilson via Public wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal>Here is another pre-ballot for discussion.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><b>Ballot 209 - EV Liability</b><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>In Section 18 of the EV Guidelines, add the following sentences to the end of the first paragraph:<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Notwithstanding the foregoing, a CA MAY limit its liability to Subscribers or Relying Parties for legally recognized and provable claims to: (1) one hundred thousand US dollars – aggregated across all claims, Subscribers, and Relying Parties – per EV Certificate; and (2) five million US dollars – aggregated across all claims, Subscribers, and Relying Parties – for all EV Certificates issued by the CA during any continuous 12-month period. These limitations are notwithstanding anything in the Baseline Requirements purportedly to the contrary.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Such that Section 18 of the EV Guidelines would read:<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>CAs MAY limit their liability as described in Section 9.8 of the Baseline Requirements except that a CA MAY NOT limit its liability to Subscribers or Relying Parties for legally recognized and provable claims to a monetary amount less than two thousand US dollars per Subscriber or Relying Party per EV Certificate. <u>Notwithstanding the foregoing, a CA MAY limit its liability to Subscribers or Relying Parties for legally recognized and provable claims to: (1) one hundred thousand US dollars – aggregated across all claims, Subscribers, and Relying Parties – per EV Certificate; and (2) five million US dollars – aggregated across all claims, Subscribers, and Relying Parties – for all EV Certificates issued by the CA during any continuous 12-month period. These limitations are notwithstanding anything in the Baseline Requirements purportedly to the contrary</u>.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>A CA's indemnification obligations and a Root CA’s obligations with respect to subordinate CAs are set forth in Section 9.9 of the Baseline Requirements.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:2.0pt'><b><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#0174C3'>Ben Wilson, JD, CISA, CISSP</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:2.0pt'><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#686869'>VP Compliance</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:2.0pt'><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#686869'>+1 801 701 9678</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><img width=133 height=29 style='width:1.3833in;height:.3041in' id="Picture_x0020_1" src="cid:image002.jpg@01D30560.997705F0"><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><br><br><br><o:p></o:p></p><pre>_______________________________________________<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>Public mailing list<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><a href="mailto:Public@cabforum.org">Public@cabforum.org</a><o:p></o:p></pre><pre><a href="https://cabforum.org/mailman/listinfo/public">https://cabforum.org/mailman/listinfo/public</a><o:p></o:p></pre></blockquote><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></body></html>