<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class="">Looks good. Thank you.<br class=""><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Curt<br class=""><div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Jul 19, 2017, at 2:44 PM, Peter Bowen <<a href="mailto:pzb@amzn.com" class="">pzb@amzn.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=utf-8" class=""><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><div class="">This was discussed on the last validation working group call. Jeremy provided a revision to the 3.2.2.4.2 text to try to address this specific issue.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I’ve attached another draft that builds on my previous draft. Here is the relevant text. How does this look?</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">
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margin-left:0in"><b class=""><span style="font-family:
"Times New Roman",serif" class="">3.2.2.4.4 <span class="msoIns"><ins cite="mailto:Peter%20Bowen" datetime="2017-07-13T16:01" class="">Email to Constructed
Address<o:p class=""></o:p></ins></span></span></b></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top:6.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:6.0pt;
margin-left:0in"><span style="font-family:"Times New Roman",serif" class=""><span class="msoIns"><ins cite="mailto:Peter%20Bowen" datetime="2017-07-13T16:01" class="">Confirm
the Applicant's control over the requested Domain Name by (i) sending an email
to one or more addresses created by using 'admin', 'administrator',
'webmaster', 'hostmaster', or 'postmaster' as the local part, followed by the
at-sign ("@"), followed by an <span style="background:aqua;mso-highlight:
aqua" class="">Authorization
Domain Name</span>, (ii) including a Random Value in the email,
and (iii) receiving a confirming response utilizing the Random Value.<o:p class=""></o:p></ins></span></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top:6.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:6.0pt;
margin-left:0in"><span style="font-family:"Times New Roman",serif" class=""><span class="msoIns"><ins cite="mailto:Peter%20Bowen" datetime="2017-07-13T16:01" class="">Each
email MAY confirm control of multiple Domain Names, provided the <span style="background:aqua;mso-highlight:aqua" class="">Authorization
Domain Name</span> used in the email is an Authorization Domain
Name for each Domain Name being confirmed<o:p class=""></o:p></ins></span></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top:6.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:6.0pt;
margin-left:0in"><span style="font-family:"Times New Roman",serif" class=""><span class="msoIns"><ins cite="mailto:Peter%20Bowen%20v2" datetime="2017-07-13T18:09" class="">The
CA MAY resend an email, fax, SMS, or postal mail that reuses the previously
sent Random Value if the communication's entire contents (including the Random
Value) and recipient(s) are not changed.
In all other cases, CA MUST use a unique Random Value in each email,
fax, SMS, or postal mail</ins></span></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top:6.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:6.0pt;
margin-left:0in"><span style="font-family:"Times New Roman",serif" class=""><span class="msoIns"><ins cite="mailto:Peter%20Bowen" datetime="2017-07-13T16:01" class="">The
confirming response MUST be received no more than 30 days after the creation of
the Random Value. The CPS MAY specify a shorter validity period for Random
Values, in which case the CA MUST follow its CPS.</ins></span><o:p class=""></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top:6.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:6.0pt;
margin-left:0in"><span style="font-family:"Times New Roman",serif" class=""><span class="msoIns"><ins cite="mailto:Peter%20Bowen" datetime="2017-07-13T16:01" class=""><br class=""></ins></span></span></p>
<!--EndFragment--></div></div><span id="cid:0B7A3CD0-4267-4DF2-82F9-A74CC4847FC3@apple.com"><CA-Browser Forum BR 1.4.10 draft with 182bis.docx></span><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=utf-8" class=""><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><div class=""><br class=""><div class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Jul 19, 2017, at 2:23 PM, Curt Spann <<a href="mailto:cspann@apple.com" class="">cspann@apple.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class="">
<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8" class=""><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class="">Hi Peter,<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I have one question about ballot 190 Section: 3.2.2.4.2:</div><div class=""><div class="">Section: <i class="">3.2.2.4.2 Email, Fax, SMS, or Postal Mail to Domain Contact</i></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Text: “<i class="">The CA MAY send the email, fax, SMS, or postal mail identified under this section to more than one recipient provided that every recipient is identified by the Domain Name Registrar as representing the Domain Name Registrant for every Domain Name being verified using the email, fax, SMS, or postal mail. </i></div><div class=""><i class=""><br class="">The Random Value SHALL be unique in each email, fax, SMS, or postal mail.</i>”<br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Question: In the case of multiple recipients is this the same email, fax, SMS, postal mail being sent to each recipient individually which means the random value will be the same for all or will the random value be different per recipient?<br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div>Cheers,</div><div class="">Curt<br class=""><div class=""><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Jul 16, 2017, at 3:03 PM, Peter Bowen via Public <<a href="mailto:public@cabforum.org" class="">public@cabforum.org</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div class="" style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;">Kirk,</div><div class="" style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;"><br class=""></div><div class="" style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;">One clarification. My draft of Ballot 190 does not include the changes from 202, rather it assumes the BRs already include the changes in 202. It is also worth noting that the yellow highlights in the 190 draft are for review purposes only; that are not meant to be in the final BRs.</div><div class="" style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;"><br class=""></div><div class="" style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;">Thanks,</div><div class="" style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;">Peter</div><br class="" style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;"><div style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Jul 16, 2017, at 2:07 PM, Kirk Hall via Public <<a href="mailto:public@cabforum.org" class="" style="color: rgb(149, 79, 114); text-decoration: underline;">public@cabforum.org</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div lang="EN-US" link="#0563C1" vlink="#954F72" class=""><div class="WordSection1" style="page: WordSection1;"><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Peter has put together two ballots, Ballot 202 (now in the discussion period, ending Wed.) and 190, and presented them as track changes in the entire BRs. I have created the attached pdfs that only include the pages with changes (I think – Peter, double check me) for easier review. Certain changes, like the revision of the important new definition of Authorization Domain Name, affect both ballots.<o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">This is an unusual situation – Ballot 202 will likely be voted on first, so Peter has assumed Ballot 202 passes and includes all the 202 changes in his Ballot 190. So I recommend people start by reviewing 202, and then 190 knowing it includes those changes from 202.<o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">I also attach my last version of Ballot 190 v6 so we can make sure 202/190 include all the necessary changes.<o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">I have not had time to review these ballots in detail yet, but given how little time we have before voting starts, I encourage others to review them quickly and forward any questions / comments. Because this affects domain validation rules, we want to make sure we get this right.<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div></div><span id="cid:9FA4BD91-8F22-4497-A73D-BCEFA5F6019F@amazon.com" class=""><Ballot 202 (PB 7-13-2017) CA-Browser Forum BR 1.4.10 draft.pdf></span><span id="cid:404596B5-D660-4503-9B1F-498345C47EA7@amazon.com" class=""><Ballot 190 (PB 7-13-2017) CA-Browser Forum BR 1.4.10 draft with 182bis.pdf></span><span id="cid:7EE72FFD-682F-42E7-A984-7478E43336F1@amazon.com" class=""><Ballot 190 v6 (7-6-2017).pdf></span>_______________________________________________<br class="">Public mailing list<br class=""><a href="mailto:Public@cabforum.org" class="" style="color: rgb(149, 79, 114); text-decoration: underline;">Public@cabforum.org</a><br class=""><a href="https://cabforum.org/mailman/listinfo/public" style="color: rgb(149, 79, 114); text-decoration: underline;" class="">https://cabforum.org/mailman/listinfo/public</a><br class=""></div></blockquote></div><br class="" style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;"><span style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">_______________________________________________</span><br style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><span style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">Public mailing list</span><br style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><a href="mailto:Public@cabforum.org" style="color: rgb(149, 79, 114); text-decoration: underline; font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class="">Public@cabforum.org</a><br style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><a href="https://cabforum.org/mailman/listinfo/public" style="color: rgb(149, 79, 114); text-decoration: underline; font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class="">https://cabforum.org/mailman/listinfo/public</a></div></blockquote></div><br class=""></div></div></div></blockquote></div><br class=""></div></div></div></blockquote></div><br class=""></div></body></html>