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    <p>Actalis "abstains" on Ballot 204.<br>
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        On 26/6/2017 3:18 μμ, Gervase Markham via Public wrote:<br>
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          <div class="WordSection1"><o:p></o:p><b>Ballot 204: Forbid
              DTPs from doing Domain/IP Ownership Validation<br>
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              <b>Purpose of Ballot: </b>At the moment, CAs are
              permitted to delegate the process of domain and IP address
              validation. However, permitting such delegations is
              problematic due to the way audits work - the auditing of
              such work may or may not be required and, if it is, those
              audit documents may not make it back to root programs for
              consideration. Although the audit situation also needs
              fixing, domain validation is an important enough component
              of a CA's core competencies that it seems wiser to remove
              it from the larger problem and forbid its delegation. The
              purpose of this ballot is to ensure that CAs or their
              Affiliates are always the ones performing domain/IP
              address ownership validation for certificates that CA is
              responsible for.<br>
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              style="margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal">The
              following motion has been proposed by Gervase Markham of
              Mozilla and endorsed by Ryan Sleevi of Google and Mike
              Reilly of Microsoft:<br>
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              -- MOTION BEGINS -- <o:p></o:p></p>
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            <pre wrap="">This motion modifies the Baseline Requirements.

0) In section 1.6.1, augment the definition of "Delegated Third Party" as follows:
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            <p>Delegated Third Party: A natural person or Legal Entity
              that is not the CA<b>, and whose activities are not within
                the scope of the appropriate CA audits,</b> but is
              authorized by the CA to assist in the Certificate
              Management Process by performing or fulfilling one or more
              of the CA requirements found herein.</p>
            1) In section 1.3.2, replace the following sentence:
            <pre wrap="">"The CA MAY delegate the performance of all, or any part, of Section 3.2 requirements to a Delegated Third Party, provided that the process as a whole fulfills all of the requirements of Section 3.2."

with:

"With the exception of sections 3.2.2.4 and 3.2.2.5, the CA MAY delegate the performance of all, or any part, of Section 3.2 requirements to a Delegated Third Party, provided that the process as a whole fulfills all of the requirements of Section 3.2." 

2) In sections 3.2.2.4, replace the paragraph beginning "The CA SHALL confirm that" with the following:

"The CA SHALL confirm that, as of the date the Certificate issues, the CA has validated each Fully‐Qualified Domain Name (FQDN) listed in the Certificate using at least one of the methods listed below, or is within the Domain Namespace of a Fully-Qualified Domain Name (FQDN) that has been validated using at least one of the methods listed below (not including the method defined in section 3.2.2.4.8)."

3) In section 3.2.2.4.6, remove the words "or Delegated Third Party".

4) In section 3.2.2.4.11 (if still present in the text at the time the ballot passes), replace the following text:

"either the CA or a Delegated Third Party"

with:

"the CA"

5) In section 8.4, remove the paragraph beginning: "If a Delegated Third Party is not currently audited...".

6) In section 8.4, replace the following text:

"If the CA is not using one of the above procedures and the Delegated Third Party is not an Enterprise RA, then"

with:

"For Delegated Third Parties which are not Enterprise RAs, ".
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            -- MOTION ENDS --<o:p></o:p><br>
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                style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">The
                procedure for approval of this Final Maintenance
                Guideline ballot is as follows:</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;line-height:105%;font-family:Calibri">BALLOT 204</span></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;line-height:105%;font-family:Calibri">Status:
                        Final Maintenance Guideline</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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                        time (23:00 UTC)</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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                        time (23:00 UTC)</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;line-height:105%;font-family:Calibri">Discussion
                        (7 to 14 days)</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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                        June<br>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;line-height:105%;font-family:Calibri">Vote for
                        approval (7 days)</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;line-height:105%;font-family:Calibri">If vote
                        approves ballot: Review Period (Chair to send
                        Review Notice) (30 days).  </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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                      style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:105%"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;line-height:105%;font-family:Calibri">If
                        Exclusion Notice(s) filed, ballot approval is
                        rescinded and PAG to be created.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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                      style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:105%"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;line-height:105%;font-family:Calibri">If no
                        Exclusion Notices filed, ballot becomes
                        effective at end of Review Period.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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                      align="center">Upon filing of Review Notice by
                      Chair<o:p></o:p></p>
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                      align="center">30 days after filing of Review
                      Notice by Chair<o:p></o:p></p>
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                style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">From Bylaw
                2.3: If the Draft Guideline Ballot is proposing a Final
                Maintenance Guideline, such ballot will include a
                redline or comparison showing the set of changes from
                the Final Guideline section(s) intended to become a
                Final Maintenance Guideline, and need not include a copy
                of the full set of guidelines.  Such redline or
                comparison shall be made against the Final Guideline
                section(s) as they exist at the time a ballot is
                proposed, and need not take into consideration other
                ballots that may be proposed subsequently, except as
                provided in Bylaw Section 2.3(j).</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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                style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri;">Votes
                must be cast by posting an on-list reply to this thread
                on the Public list.  A vote in favor of the motion must
                indicate a clear 'yes' in the response. A vote against
                must indicate a clear 'no' in the response. A vote to
                abstain must indicate a clear 'abstain' in the response.
                Unclear responses will not be counted. The latest vote
                received from any representative of a voting member
                before the close of the voting period will be counted.
                Voting members are listed here: </span><font
                color="#000000"><a href="https://cabforum.org/members/"
                  moz-do-not-send="true"><span style="font-size: 11pt;
                    font-family: Calibri;">https://cabforum.org/members/</span></a></font><span
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            <p class="MsoNormal">In order for the motion to be adopted,
              two thirds or more of the votes cast by members in the CA
              category and greater than 50% of the votes cast by members
              in the browser category must be in favor.  <span
                style="background:white">Quorum is shown on CA/Browser
                Forum wiki.  Under Bylaw 2.2(g), at least the required
                quorum number must participate in the ballot for the
                ballot to be valid, either by voting in favor, voting
                against, or abstaining.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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