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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link="#0563C1" vlink="#954F72"><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><a name="_MailEndCompose">Hi Mads,<o:p></o:p></a></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailEndCompose'>The Validation Working Group met this morning and will add your comments to a publicly available online tracking worksheet (that I will post later today). Although we think that fixing the typo with the “http” reference to “https” is a good idea, your other suggestions are probably best to add in with Jeremy’s comments and fix any of the confusing language in section 3.2.2.4 after this ballot passes.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailEndCompose'>Sincerely yours,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailEndCompose'>Ben <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailEndCompose'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:2.0pt'><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailEndCompose'><b><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#0174C3'>Ben Wilson, JD, CISA, CISSP<o:p></o:p></span></b></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:2.0pt'><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailEndCompose'><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#686869'>VP Compliance<o:p></o:p></span></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:2.0pt'><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailEndCompose'><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#686869'>+1 801 701 9678<o:p></o:p></span></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailEndCompose'><img width=133 height=29 style='width:1.3875in;height:.3in' id="Picture_x0020_1" src="cid:image001.jpg@01D2F0BC.B06E1D10"><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailEndCompose'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailEndCompose'></span><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b>From:</b> Public [mailto:public-bounces@cabforum.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Mads Egil Henriksveen via Public<br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, June 29, 2017 3:44 AM<br><b>To:</b> CA/Browser Forum Public Discussion List <public@cabforum.org><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [cabfpub] Pre-ballot for Ballot 190<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=NO-BOK style='color:#1F497D'>Hi <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=NO-BOK style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>I have some comments and suggested edits, see attached document with proposed changes in the text and corresponding comments. I think this will clarify some topics and remove some inconsistency. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Some of the changes are what I consider to be typos. The others may be categorized in two parts:<o:p></o:p></span></p><ol style='margin-top:0in' start=1 type=1><li class=MsoListParagraph style='color:#1F497D;margin-left:0in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2'>Domain Contact vs Domain Name Registrant – section 3.2.2.4.2 and 3.2.2.4.3<br>The definition of Domain Contact includes Technical and Administrative Contact in addition to Domain Name Registrant.<br>My proposed changes is to clarify this, e.g. replace the term Domain Name Registrant with Domain Contact where relevant to remove inconsistency.<o:p></o:p></li><li class=MsoListParagraph style='color:#1F497D;margin-left:0in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2'>Base Domain Name vs Authorization Domain Name vs FQDN<br>Some of the sections use these terms differently for the same situation – see section 3.2.2.4.2 and 3.2.2.4.3. This is confusing and I would like to harmonize the use of these terms. <o:p></o:p></li></ol><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>I do also propose a change in the title for section 3.2.2.4.4 since the definition of Domain Contact do not include this specific case where the email address is constructed and not listed in a WHOIS record. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>I also think it is important to file this ballot now and I will endorse it. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Regards<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Mads <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif'> Public [<a href="mailto:public-bounces@cabforum.org">mailto:public-bounces@cabforum.org</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Kirk Hall via Public<br><b>Sent:</b> 18. juni 2017 02:42<br><b>To:</b> CA/Browser Forum Public Discussion List<br><b>Cc:</b> Kirk Hall<br><b>Subject:</b> [cabfpub] Pre-ballot for Ballot 190<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=NO-BOK><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal>After working with some of the chief drafters of the changes to BR 3.2.2.4 over the past two years, I am posting this revised Ballot 190 which does a number of things:<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='text-indent:-.25in'>1.<span style='font-size:7.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif'> </span>There are changes to two Definitions, and a new definition as shown.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='text-indent:-.25in'>2.<span style='font-size:7.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif'> </span>The current language of the domain validation section BR 3.2.2.4 is what we passed in Ballot 181, and is missing validation Methods 1-4 and 7-9 with minor tweaks as indicated. We are also eliminating Method 11 (previously Method 7) – “any other method.” The language you see inserted is the same language as we passed in Ballot 169, except for the minor changes I specifically call out.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='text-indent:-.25in'>3.<span style='font-size:7.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif'> </span>We clarify that once the requested FQDN has been verified using a given validation method, the CA may also issue certificates for higher level domains that end in the validated FQDN.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='text-indent:-.25in'>4.<span style='font-size:7.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif'> </span>Finally, in response to the discussion we have had on whether a change to a validation method means all prior validations using that method are no longer valid, we have made some changes. In essence, the BRs would not state that data, documents, and prior validations can be reused for the permitted reuse period under BR 4.2.1, unless the Forum specifically requires revalidation in a ballot.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>I have attached the pre-ballot in two formats: (a) one in “track changes” from Ballot 181 and including comments (this will be the real ballot once we finish discussion and the comments are removed), and (b) the other showing how BR 3.2.2.4 and 4.2.1 plus the definitions will read if Ballot 190 is adopted. I am sending the documents in both Word and pdf formats.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>We can discuss the ballot this week and on Thursday at the F2F meeting. Next week, we can then file the ballot and start the discussion period (7 days), followed by the voting period.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>One request – if you have comments or edits to suggest, please be VERY clear. This is a very complex ballot, and we will make the most progress if we avoid misunderstanding and talking past each other. Also, if you don’t like a section, please suggest specific alternate wording for people to consider.<o:p></o:p></p></div></body></html>