<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class="">Apple votes Yes.<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Curt<br class=""><div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Jun 14, 2017, at 10:01 AM, Jeremy Rowley via Public <<a href="mailto:public@cabforum.org" class="">public@cabforum.org</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div class="WordSection1" style="page: WordSection1; font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;"><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class="">From the validation WG:<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><b class=""><span style="font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class="">Ballot 192 – Notary Revisions<o:p class=""></o:p></span></b></div><p class="line874" style="margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;"><span style="font-size: 11pt;" class="">The following motion has been proposed by Jeremy Rowley of DigiCert and endorsed by Kirk Hall of Entrust and Rich Smith of Comodo.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></p><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class="">Currently, section 11.11.1(A)(ii) states,<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class="">11.11.1. Verified Legal Opinion <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class="">(1) Verification Requirements: Before relying on a legal opinion submitted to the CA, the CA MUST verify that such legal opinion meets the following requirements:<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class="">(A) Status of Author: The CA MUST verify that the legal opinion is authored by an independent legal practitioner retained by and representing the Applicant (or an in-house legal practitioner employed by the Applicant) (Legal Practitioner) who is either:<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class="">…<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt 0.75in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; text-indent: -0.25in;" class=""><span style="font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class="">(ii) A notary that is a member of the International Union of Latin Notaries, and is licensed to practice in the country of the Applicant’s Jurisdiction of Incorporation or Registration or any jurisdiction where the Applicant maintains an office or physical facility (and that such jurisdiction recognizes the role of the Latin Notary);<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt 0.75in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; text-indent: -0.25in;" class=""><span style="font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class="">The EV Guidelines already define “Latin Notary” appropriately and sufficiently as “A person with legal training whose commission under applicable law not only includes authority to authenticate the execution of a signature on a document but also responsibility for the correctness and content of the document. A Latin Notary is sometimes referred to as a Civil Law Notary.”<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class="">Whether a Latin Notary (or Civil Law Notary) is a member of the IULN should not be dispositive as to whether the person is competent and qualified to provide a legal opinion. The current wording of section 11.11.1(A)(ii) means we cannot accept letters from proper Latin Notaries (individuals) who aren’t members of the IULN.<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class="">By deleting the requirement that a Latin Notary be a member of the International Union of Latin Notaries, this ballot permits a more extensive view on who can provide the type of legal opinion required by the EV Guidelines.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class="">--MOTION BEGINS--<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""> A. Effective immediately, modify 11.11.1(A) as follows:<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class="">'''11.11.1. Verified Legal Opinion'''<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class="">(1) '''Verification Requirements''': Before relying on a legal opinion submitted to the CA, the CA MUST verify that such legal opinion meets the following requirements:<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class="">(A) '''Status of Author''': The CA MUST verify that the legal opinion is authored by an independent legal practitioner retained by and representing the Applicant (or an in-house legal practitioner employed by the Applicant) (Legal Practitioner) who is either:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class="">(i) A lawyer (or solicitor, barrister, advocate, or equivalent) licensed to practice law in the country of the Applicant’s Jurisdiction of Incorporation or Registration or any jurisdiction where the Applicant maintains an office or physical facility, or<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class="">(ii) A<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><s class="">notary that is a member of the International Union of Latin Notaries, and is</s><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><u class="">Latin Notary who is currently commissioned or</u><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>licensed to practice in the country of the Applicant’s Jurisdiction of Incorporation or Registration or any jurisdiction where the Applicant maintains an office or physical facility (and that jurisdiction recognizes the role of the Latin Notary);<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class="">--MOTION ENDS—<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div><p class="line874" style="margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;">The procedure for approval of this ballot is as follows:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><o:p class=""></o:p></p><table class="MsoNormalTable" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" width="572" style="width: 429pt; border-collapse: collapse;"><tbody class=""><tr class=""><td width="306" valign="top" style="width: 229.5pt; border: 1pt solid windowtext; padding: 0in 5.4pt;" class=""><p class="line862" style="margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;">BALLOT 192<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><o:p class=""></o:p></p></td><td width="110" valign="top" style="width: 82.5pt; border-top-width: 1pt; border-right-width: 1pt; border-bottom-width: 1pt; border-style: solid solid solid none; border-top-color: windowtext; border-right-color: windowtext; border-bottom-color: windowtext; padding: 0in 5.4pt;" class=""><p class="line862" style="margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;">Start time (22:00 UTC)<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><o:p class=""></o:p></p></td><td width="106" valign="top" style="width: 79.5pt; border-top-width: 1pt; border-right-width: 1pt; border-bottom-width: 1pt; border-style: solid solid solid none; border-top-color: windowtext; border-right-color: windowtext; border-bottom-color: windowtext; padding: 0in 5.4pt;" class=""><p class="line862" style="margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;">End time (22:00 UTC)<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><o:p class=""></o:p></p></td></tr><tr class=""><td width="306" valign="top" style="width: 229.5pt; border-right-width: 1pt; border-bottom-width: 1pt; border-left-width: 1pt; border-style: none solid solid; border-right-color: windowtext; border-bottom-color: windowtext; border-left-color: windowtext; padding: 0in 5.4pt;" class=""><p class="line862" style="margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;">Discussion (7 to 14 days)<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><o:p class=""></o:p></p></td><td width="110" valign="top" style="width: 82.5pt; border-style: none solid solid none; border-bottom-width: 1pt; border-bottom-color: windowtext; border-right-width: 1pt; border-right-color: windowtext; padding: 0in 5.4pt;" class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">15th June<o:p class=""></o:p></div></td><td width="106" valign="top" style="width: 79.5pt; border-style: none solid solid none; border-bottom-width: 1pt; border-bottom-color: windowtext; border-right-width: 1pt; border-right-color: windowtext; padding: 0in 5.4pt;" class=""><p class="line862" style="margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;">21st June<o:p class=""></o:p></p></td></tr><tr class=""><td width="306" valign="top" style="width: 229.5pt; border-right-width: 1pt; border-bottom-width: 1pt; border-left-width: 1pt; border-style: none solid solid; border-right-color: windowtext; border-bottom-color: windowtext; border-left-color: windowtext; padding: 0in 5.4pt;" class=""><p class="line862" style="margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;">Vote for approval (7 days)<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><o:p class=""></o:p></p></td><td width="110" valign="top" style="width: 82.5pt; border-style: none solid solid none; border-bottom-width: 1pt; border-bottom-color: windowtext; border-right-width: 1pt; border-right-color: windowtext; padding: 0in 5.4pt;" class=""><p class="line862" style="margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;">21<sup class="">st</sup><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>June <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><o:p class=""></o:p></p></td><td width="106" valign="top" style="width: 79.5pt; border-style: none solid solid none; border-bottom-width: 1pt; border-bottom-color: windowtext; border-right-width: 1pt; border-right-color: windowtext; padding: 0in 5.4pt;" class=""><p class="line862" style="margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;">28th June<o:p class=""></o:p></p></td></tr><tr class=""><td width="306" valign="top" style="width: 229.5pt; border-right-width: 1pt; border-bottom-width: 1pt; border-left-width: 1pt; border-style: none solid solid; border-right-color: windowtext; border-bottom-color: windowtext; border-left-color: windowtext; padding: 0in 5.4pt;" class=""></td><td width="110" valign="top" style="width: 82.5pt; border-style: none solid solid none; border-bottom-width: 1pt; border-bottom-color: windowtext; border-right-width: 1pt; border-right-color: windowtext; padding: 0in 5.4pt;" class=""></td><td width="106" valign="top" style="width: 79.5pt; border-style: none solid solid none; border-bottom-width: 1pt; border-bottom-color: windowtext; border-right-width: 1pt; border-right-color: windowtext; padding: 0in 5.4pt;" class=""></td></tr></tbody></table><p class="line862" style="margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;">Votes must be cast by posting an on-list reply to this thread on the Public list. A vote in favor of the motion must indicate a clear 'yes' in the response. A vote against must indicate a clear 'no' in the response. A vote to abstain must indicate a clear 'abstain' in the response. Unclear responses will not be counted. The latest vote received from any representative of a voting member before the close of the voting period will be counted. Voting members are listed here:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><tt style="font-family: "Courier New";" class=""><span style="font-size: 10pt;" class=""><a href="https://cabforum.org/members/" style="color: rgb(149, 79, 114); text-decoration: underline;" class="">https://cabforum.org/members/</a></span></tt><o:p class=""></o:p></p><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">In order for the motion to be adopted, two thirds or more of the votes cast by members in the CA category and greater than 50% of the votes cast by members in the browser category must be in favor. Quorum is shown on CA/Browser Forum wiki. Under Bylaw 2.2(g), at least the required quorum number must participate in the ballot for the ballot to be valid, either by voting in favor, voting against, or abstaining.<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div></div><span style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">_______________________________________________</span><br style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><span style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">Public mailing list</span><br style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><a href="mailto:Public@cabforum.org" style="color: rgb(149, 79, 114); text-decoration: underline; font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class="">Public@cabforum.org</a><br style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><a href="https://cabforum.org/mailman/listinfo/public" style="color: rgb(149, 79, 114); text-decoration: underline; font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class="">https://cabforum.org/mailman/listinfo/public</a></div></blockquote></div><br class=""></div></body></html>