<div dir="ltr">Kirk,<div><br></div><div>Could you clarify your intent? You mentioned "any other enterprise users" - but I believe the goal is certificate users in general (i.e. more broadly than just enterprise).</div><div><br></div><div>Is that correct?</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Jun 13, 2017 at 6:03 PM, Kirk Hall via Public <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:public@cabforum.org" target="_blank">public@cabforum.org</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">I will present names and companies once their participation is confirmed. Yes, at the Chair’s invitation, but I will additionally “invite” any other enterprise
users others may propose to tell their stories.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">I’d point out that over the years we have heard from many people and organizations at our meetings. It’s been very useful.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<b>Subject:</b> Re: [cabfpub] [EXTERNAL]Re: CA/Browser Face to Face Meeting 41 Agenda – Berlin<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Jun 13, 2017, at 2:28 PM, Ryan Sleevi via Public <<a href="mailto:public@cabforum.org" target="_blank">public@cabforum.org</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Tue, Jun 13, 2017 at 5:00 PM, Kirk Hall via Public <<a href="mailto:public@cabforum.org" target="_blank">public@cabforum.org</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On your first question - some major enterprise users would like to present their ideas and concerns about SSL certificate rules, changes, etc. from their perspective, which I know the browsers have wanted (rather than hearing it reported
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<p class="MsoNormal">To be clear: Several browsers have wanted open participation. I would suggest that having CA-selected participants, without explanation (as Gerv had to seek) is perhaps detrimental to the productive dialog, in as much as it allows the Chair
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<p class="MsoNormal">Might I suggest that it might not be appropriate? <u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I think we should welcome hearing from certificate users directly.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Kirk: Can you provide a list of certificate users who will be presenting, including their affiliation? I’m assuming they are attending the F2F at the invitation of the Chair.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Thanks,<u></u><u></u></p>
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