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--></style></head><body bgcolor=white lang=EN-US link="#0563C1" vlink="#954F72"><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:Georgia;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>After consideration and the discussion around domain validation reuse, Cisco opts to ABSTAIN on ballot 197. We fully support efforts to reduce the window of domain validation reuse, but both options here present problematic solutions.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:Georgia;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>-- <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Jos Purvis (<a href="mailto:jopurvis@cisco.com)">jopurvis@cisco.com)</a><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>.:|:.:|:. cisco systems | Cryptographic Services<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>PGP: 0xFD802FEE07D19105 | +1 919.991.9114 (desk)<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:Georgia;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:Georgia;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='color:black'>From: </span></b><span style='color:black'>Public <public-bounces@cabforum.org> on behalf of Kirk Hall via Public <public@cabforum.org><br><b>Reply-To: </b>CA/Browser Forum Public Discussion List <public@cabforum.org><br><b>Date: </b>Tuesday, 25 April, 2017 at 17:45 <br><b>To: </b>CA/Browser Forum Public Discussion List <public@cabforum.org><br><b>Cc: </b>Kirk Hall <Kirk.Hall@entrustdatacard.com><br><b>Subject: </b>[cabfpub] Proposed Amendment to Ballot 197</span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Times New Roman"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoPlainText>Based on discussions on the list about the uncertain status of Ballot 194, the proposer and endorsers for Ballot 197 wish to amend Ballot 197 as shown below and on the attached. The amendment is basically to add a Section 2 that says: “<span style='color:#C00000'>"Section 2: The vote on Ballot 194 and the Review Period notice issued for Ballot 194 are hereby declared null and void and of no effect, and are rescinded.” </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>I just realized the discussion period ended last night, and we are in the voting period. If <b><u>ANY</u></b> member objects to including Section 2 as an amendment at this stage, we will <b><u>withdraw</u></b> the amendment. Otherwise, Section 2 is added.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-family:Arial'>Ballot 197 – Effective Date of Ballot 193 Provisions (Amended 4-25-2017)</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:Arial'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-family:Arial'>Purpose of Ballot:</span></b><span style='font-family:Arial'> Recent Ballot 193 reduced the maximum period for certificates and for reuse of vetting data for DV and OV certificates from 39 months to 825 days. The effective date for reducing the maximum validity period of certificates was specified as March 1, 2018, but no effective date was specified for when the reduction of the maximum period for reuse of vetting data becomes effective.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:Arial'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:Arial'>It was the intention of the authors of Ballot 193 that the effective date for reducing the maximum period for reuse of vetting data under BR 4.2.1 would also be March 1, 2018. This ballot is intended to clarify that intention. The ballot also makes these changes retroactive to the effective date of Ballot 193 so there is no gap period.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:Arial'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><span style='font-family:Arial'>Ballot 193 is in the Review Period (which will end on April 22, 2017), and has not yet taken effect. Bylaw 2.3 states that Ballots should include a “redline or comparison showing the set of changes from the Final Guideline section(s) intended to become a Final Maintenance Guideline” and that “[s]uch redline or comparison shall be made against the Final Guideline section(s) as they exist at the time a ballot is proposed”.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><span style='font-family:Arial'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:Arial'>To avoid confusion, this Ballot will show the proposed changes to BR 4.2.1 will be presented two ways: (1) a comparison of the changes to BR 4.2.1 as it existed before Ballot 193 (which is as BR 4.2.1 exists at this time this ballot is proposed), and also (2) a comparison of the changes to BR 4.2.1 as it will exist after the Review Period for Ballot 193 is completed (assuming no Exclusion Notices are filed).</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:Arial'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:Arial'>The following motion has been proposed by Kirk Hall of Entrust Datacard and endorsed by Ben Wilson of DigiCert, and Wayne Thayer of GoDaddy to introduce new Final Maintenance Guidelines for the "Baseline Requirements Certificate Policy for the Issuance and Management of Publicly-Trusted Certificates" (Baseline Requirements) and the "Guidelines for the Issuance and Management of Extended Validation Certificates" (EV Guidelines).</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:Arial'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:Arial'>-- MOTION BEGINS -- </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:Arial'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><u><span style='font-family:Arial;color:red'>Section 1</span></u></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:Arial'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:Arial'>BR 4.2.1 is amended to read as follows:</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:Arial'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><i><span style='font-family:Arial'>[Ballot amendments shown against BR 4.2.1 <u>as it currently exists without the changes adopted in Ballot 193</u>]</span></i><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:Arial'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><b><span style='font-family:Arial'>BR 4.2.1. Performing Identification and Authentication Functions</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><span style='font-family:Arial'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><span style='font-family:Arial'>The certificate request MAY include all factual information about the Applicant to be included in the Certificate, and such additional information as is necessary for the CA to obtain from the Applicant in order to comply with these Requirements and the CA’s Certificate Policy and/or Certification Practice Statement. In cases where the certificate request does not contain all the necessary information about the Applicant, the CA SHALL obtain the remaining information from the Applicant or, having obtained it from a reliable, independent, third</span><span style='font-family:"Cambria Math"'>‐</span><span style='font-family:Arial'>party data source, confirm it with the Applicant. The CA SHALL establish and follow a documented procedure for verifying all data requested for inclusion in the Certificate by the Applicant.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><span style='font-family:Arial'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><span style='font-family:Arial'>Applicant information MUST include, but not be limited to, at least one Fully</span><span style='font-family:"Cambria Math"'>‐</span><span style='font-family:Arial'>Qualified Domain Name or IP address to be included in the Certificate’s SubjectAltName extension.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><span style='font-family:Arial'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><span style='font-family:Arial'>Section 6.3.2 limits the validity period of Subscriber Certificates. <b><u>Effective April 22, 2017</u> [</b><i><s>T</s></i>]<b><u>t</u></b>he CA MAY use the documents and data provided in Section 3.2 to verify certificate information, provided that<b><u>:</u></b> <i><s>the CA obtained the data or document from a source specified under Section 3.2 no more than thirty</s></i></span><i><s><span style='font-family:"Cambria Math"'>‐</span></s></i><i><s><span style='font-family:Arial'>nine (39) months prior to issuing the Certificate.</span></s></i><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><span style='font-family:Arial'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in;text-autospace:none'><b><u><span style='font-family:Arial'>(1) Prior to March 1, 2018, the CA obtained the data or document from a source specified under Section 3.2 no more than 39 months prior to issuing the Certificate; and</span></u></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in;text-autospace:none'><span style='font-family:Arial'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in;text-autospace:none'><b><u><span style='font-family:Arial'>(2) On or after March 1, 2018, the CA obtained the data or document from a source specified under Section 3.2 no more than 825 days prior to issuing the Certificate. </span></u></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in;text-autospace:none'><b><span style='font-family:Arial'> </span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><span style='font-family:Arial'>The CA SHALL develop, maintain, and implement documented procedures that identify and require additional verification activity for High Risk Certificate Requests prior to the Certificate’s approval, as reasonably necessary to ensure that such requests are properly verified under these Requirements.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><span style='font-family:Arial'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:Arial'>If a Delegated Third Party fulfills any of the CA’s obligations under this section, the CA SHALL verify that the process used by the Delegated Third Party to identify and further verify High Risk Certificate Requests provides at least the same level of assurance as the CA’s own processes.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:Arial'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:Arial'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><i><span style='font-family:Arial'>[Ballot amendments shown against BR 4.2.1 <u>as it existed after Ballot 193 was approved</u>]</span></i><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:Arial'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><b><span style='font-family:Arial'>BR 4.2.1. Performing Identification and Authentication Functions</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><span style='font-family:Arial'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><span style='font-family:Arial'>The certificate request MAY include all factual information about the Applicant to be included in the Certificate, and such additional information as is necessary for the CA to obtain from the Applicant in order to comply with these Requirements and the CA’s Certificate Policy and/or Certification Practice Statement. In cases where the certificate request does not contain all the necessary information about the Applicant, the CA SHALL obtain the remaining information from the Applicant or, having obtained it from a reliable, independent, third</span><span style='font-family:"Cambria Math"'>‐</span><span style='font-family:Arial'>party data source, confirm it with the Applicant. The CA SHALL establish and follow a documented procedure for verifying all data requested for inclusion in the Certificate by the Applicant.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><span style='font-family:Arial'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><span style='font-family:Arial'>Applicant information MUST include, but not be limited to, at least one Fully</span><span style='font-family:"Cambria Math"'>‐</span><span style='font-family:Arial'>Qualified Domain Name or IP address to be included in the Certificate’s SubjectAltName extension.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><span style='font-family:Arial'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><span style='font-family:Arial'>Section 6.3.2 limits the validity period of Subscriber Certificates. <b><u>Effective April 22, 2017</u> [</b><i><s>T</s></i>]<b><u>t</u></b>he CA MAY use the documents and data provided in Section 3.2 to verify certificate information, provided that<b><u>:</u></b> <i><s>the CA obtained the data or document from a source specified under Section 3.2 no more than 825 days<b> </b>prior to issuing the Certificate.</s></i></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><span style='font-family:Arial'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in;text-autospace:none'><b><u><span style='font-family:Arial'>(1) Prior to March 1, 2018, the CA obtained the data or document from a source specified under Section 3.2 no more than 39 months prior to issuing the Certificate; and</span></u></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in;text-autospace:none'><span style='font-family:Arial'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in;text-autospace:none'><b><u><span style='font-family:Arial'>(2) On or after March 1, 2018, the CA obtained the data or document from a source specified under Section 3.2 no more than 825 days prior to issuing the Certificate. </span></u></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><span style='font-family:Arial'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><span style='font-family:Arial'>The CA SHALL develop, maintain, and implement documented procedures that identify and require additional verification activity for High Risk Certificate Requests prior to the Certificate’s approval, as reasonably necessary to ensure that such requests are properly verified under these Requirements.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><span style='font-family:Arial'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:Arial'>If a Delegated Third Party fulfills any of the CA’s obligations under this section, the CA SHALL verify that the process used by the Delegated Third Party to identify and further verify High Risk Certificate Requests provides at least the same level of assurance as the CA’s own processes.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:Arial'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><u><span style='font-family:Arial;color:red'>Section 2</span></u></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-family:Arial;color:red'> </span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><u><span style='font-family:Arial;color:red'>The vote on Ballot 194 and the Review Period notice issued for Ballot 194 are hereby declared null and void and of no effect, and are rescinded.</span></u></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-family:Arial;color:red'> </span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><b><span lang=EN style='font-family:Arial;color:black'>--Motion Ends--</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class=line874 style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Arial'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=line874 style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Arial'>The procedure for approval of this Final Maintenance Guideline ballot is as follows (exact start and end times may be adjusted to comply with applicable Bylaws and IPR Agreement):</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=line874 style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Arial'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><table class=MsoNormalTable border=0 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=0 style='border-collapse:collapse'><tr><td width=306 valign=top style='width:229.25pt;border:solid windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt'><p class=line874 style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:105%'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;line-height:105%;font-family:Arial'>BALLOT 197</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=line874 style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:105%'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;line-height:105%;font-family:Arial'>Status: Final Maintenance Guideline</span><o:p></o:p></p></td><td width=110 valign=top style='width:82.4pt;border:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-left:none;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt'><p class=line874 align=center style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;text-align:center;line-height:105%'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;line-height:105%;font-family:Arial'>Start time (22:00 UTC)</span><o:p></o:p></p></td><td width=106 valign=top style='width:79.35pt;border:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-left:none;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt'><p class=line874 align=center style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;text-align:center;line-height:105%'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;line-height:105%;font-family:Arial'>End time (22:00 UTC)</span><o:p></o:p></p></td></tr><tr><td width=306 valign=top style='width:229.25pt;border:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-top:none;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt'><p class=line874 style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:105%'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;line-height:105%;font-family:Arial'>Discussion (7 to 14 days)</span><o:p></o:p></p></td><td width=110 valign=top style='width:82.4pt;border-top:none;border-left:none;border-bottom:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-right:solid windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt'><p class=line874 align=center style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;text-align:center;line-height:105%'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;line-height:105%;font-family:Arial'>April 17, 2017</span><o:p></o:p></p></td><td width=106 valign=top style='width:79.35pt;border-top:none;border-left:none;border-bottom:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-right:solid windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt'><p class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><span style='font-family:Arial'>April 24, 2017</span><o:p></o:p></p></td></tr><tr><td width=306 valign=top style='width:229.25pt;border:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-top:none;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt'><p class=line874 style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:105%'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;line-height:105%;font-family:Arial'>Vote for approval (7 days)</span><o:p></o:p></p></td><td width=110 valign=top style='width:82.4pt;border-top:none;border-left:none;border-bottom:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-right:solid windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt'><p class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><span style='font-family:Arial'>April 24, 2017</span><o:p></o:p></p></td><td width=106 valign=top style='width:79.35pt;border-top:none;border-left:none;border-bottom:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-right:solid windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt'><p class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><span style='font-family:Arial'>May 1, 2017</span><o:p></o:p></p></td></tr><tr><td width=306 valign=top style='width:229.25pt;border:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-top:none;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt'><p class=line874 style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:105%'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;line-height:105%;font-family:Arial'>If vote approves ballot: Review Period (Chair to send Review Notice) (30 days). </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=line874 style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:105%'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;line-height:105%;font-family:Arial'>If Exclusion Notice(s) filed, ballot approval is rescinded and PAG to be created.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=line874 style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:105%'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;line-height:105%;font-family:Arial'>If no Exclusion Notices filed, ballot becomes effective at end of Review Period.</span><o:p></o:p></p></td><td width=110 valign=top style='width:82.4pt;border-top:none;border-left:none;border-bottom:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-right:solid windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt'><p class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><span style='font-family:Arial'>Upon filing of Review Notice by Chair</span><o:p></o:p></p></td><td width=106 valign=top style='width:79.35pt;border-top:none;border-left:none;border-bottom:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-right:solid windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt'><p class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><span style='font-family:Arial'>30 days after filing of Review Notice by Chair</span><o:p></o:p></p></td></tr></table><p class=line874 style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Arial'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=line874 style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Arial'>From Bylaw 2.3: If the Draft Guideline Ballot is proposing a Final Maintenance Guideline, such ballot will include a redline or comparison showing the set of changes from the Final Guideline section(s) intended to become a Final Maintenance Guideline, and need not include a copy of the full set of guidelines. Such redline or comparison shall be made against the Final Guideline section(s) as they exist at the time a ballot is proposed, and need not take into consideration other ballots that may be proposed subsequently, except as provided in Bylaw Section 2.3(j).</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=line874 style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Arial'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=line862 style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Votes must be cast by posting an on-list reply to this thread on the Public list. A vote in favor of the motion must indicate a clear 'yes' in the response. A vote against must indicate a clear 'no' in the response. A vote to abstain must indicate a clear 'abstain' in the response. Unclear responses will not be counted. The latest vote received from any representative of a voting member before the close of the voting period will be counted. Voting members are listed here: </span><a href="https://cabforum.org/members/"><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:windowtext'>https://cabforum.org/members/</span></a><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Arial'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=line862 style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Arial'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:Arial'>In order for the motion to be adopted, two thirds or more of the votes cast by members in the CA category and greater than 50% of the votes cast by members in the browser category must be in favor. <span style='background:white'>Quorum is shown on CA/Browser Forum wiki. Under Bylaw 2.2(g), at least the required quorum number must participate in the ballot for the ballot to be valid, either by voting in favor, voting against, or abstaining.</span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:Arial'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div></body></html>