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      <div class="WordSection1"><o:p></o:p>We seem to have come full
        circle to see that the limited-scope removal of 3.2.2.4 and
        3.2.2.5 from DTPs is the right move. Here's an updated draft,
        which takes Ryan's suggestion of dealing with Enterprise RAs by
        saying that the CA has to do 3.2.2.4, or confirm the FQDN is
        within the Domain Namespace of an FQDN which has been validated
        using 3.2.2.4. Ryan commented:<br>
        <br>
        "It changes the relationship from permitting an Enterprise RA to
        have unconstrained issuance, but contractual restriction, to
        being one of technical restriction, by requiring that for every
        FQDN, the CA validate it is within the Domain Namespace of a
        (potentially previously) validated FQDN."<br>
        <br>
        I presume a CA could do this either by technical controls in the
        certificate if the cert were under customer control, or
        procedural controls on issuance if the cert were under the CA's
        control.<br>
        <br>
        3.2.2.4.8 (IP address) is exempted, as per the follow-on
        discussion.<br>
        <br>
        Can I get a couple of endorsers?<br>
        <br>
        Gerv<br>
        <br>
        <b>Ballot XXX - Forbid DTPs from doing Domain/IP Ownership
          Validation<br>
        </b>
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          <b>Purpose of Ballot: </b>At the moment, CAs are permitted to
          delegate the process of domain and IP address validation.
          However, permitting such delegations is problematic due to the
          way audits work - the auditing of such work may or may not be
          required and, if it is, those audit documents may not make it
          back to root programs for consideration. Although the audit
          situation also needs fixing, domain validation is an important
          enough component of a CA's core competencies that it seems
          wiser to remove it from the larger problem and forbid its
          delegation. The purpose of this ballot is to ensure that CAs
          or their Affiliates are always the ones performing domain/IP
          address ownership validation for certificates that CA is
          responsible for.<br>
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        <p class="MsoNormal"
          style="margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal">The
          following motion has been proposed by Gervase Markham of
          Mozilla and endorsed by XXX of XXX and XXX of XXX:<br>
          <o:p></o:p></p>
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          -- MOTION BEGINS -- <o:p></o:p></p>
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        <pre wrap="">1) In section 1.3.2 of the Baseline Requirements, replace the following sentence:

"The CA MAY delegate the performance of all, or any part, of Section 3.2 requirements to a Delegated Third Party, provided that the process as a whole fulfills all of the requirements of Section 3.2."

with:

"With the exception of sections 3.2.2.4 and 3.2.2.5, the CA MAY delegate the performance of all, or any part, of Section 3.2 requirements to a Delegated Third Party, provided that the process as a whole fulfills all of the requirements of Section 3.2." 

2) In sections 3.2.2.4, replace the paragraph beginning "The CA SHALL confirm that" with the following:

"The CA SHALL confirm that, as of the date the Certificate issues, the CA has validated each Fully‐Qualified Domain Name (FQDN) listed in the Certificate using at least one of the methods listed below, or is within the Domain Namespace of a Fully-Qualified Domain Name (FQDN) that has been validated using at least one of the methods listed below (not including the method defined in section 3.2.2.4.8)."

3) In section 3.2.2.4.6, remove the words "or Delegated Third Party".

4) In section 3.2.2.4.11 (if still present in the text at the time the ballot passes), replace the following text:

"either the CA or a Delegated Third Party"

with:

"the CA"

5) In section 8.4, remove the paragraph beginning: "If a Delegated Third Party is not currently audited...".

6) In section 8.4, replace the following text:

"If the CA is not using one of the above procedures and the Delegated Third Party is not an Enterprise RA, then"

with:

"For Delegated Third Parties which are not Enterprise RAs, ".
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        -- MOTION ENDS --<o:p></o:p>
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        <p class="line874" style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span
            style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">The procedure
            for approval of this Final Maintenance Guideline ballot is
            as follows (exact start and end times may be adjusted to
            comply with applicable Bylaws and IPR Agreement):</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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            style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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                <p class="line874"
                  style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:105%"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;line-height:105%;font-family:Calibri">BALLOT XXX</span></p>
                <p class="line874"
                  style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:105%"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;line-height:105%;font-family:Calibri">Status:
                    Final Maintenance Guideline</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;text-align:center;line-height:105%"
                  align="center"> <span
                    style="font-size:11.0pt;line-height:105%;font-family:Calibri">Start
                    time (23:00 UTC)</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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                <p class="line874"
style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;text-align:center;line-height:105%"
                  align="center"> <span
                    style="font-size:11.0pt;line-height:105%;font-family:Calibri">End
                    time (23:00 UTC)</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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                <p class="line874"
                  style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:105%"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;line-height:105%;font-family:Calibri">Discussion
                    (7 to 14 days)</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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                <p class="line874"
style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;text-align:center;line-height:105%"
                  align="center"> <span
                    style="font-size:11.0pt;line-height:105%;font-family:Calibri">XXX</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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                <p class="MsoNormal"
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                  align="center">XXX<o:p></o:p></p>
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                <p class="line874"
                  style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:105%"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;line-height:105%;font-family:Calibri">Vote for
                    approval (7 days)</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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              <td
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                <p class="MsoNormal"
                  style="text-align:center;line-height:105%"
                  align="center">XXX<o:p></o:p></p>
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style="width:79.35pt;border-top:none;border-left:none;border-bottom:solid
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                <p class="MsoNormal"
                  style="text-align:center;line-height:105%"
                  align="center">XXX<o:p></o:p></p>
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                  style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:105%"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;line-height:105%;font-family:Calibri">If vote
                    approves ballot: Review Period (Chair to send Review
                    Notice) (30 days).  </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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                  style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:105%"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;line-height:105%;font-family:Calibri">If
                    Exclusion Notice(s) filed, ballot approval is
                    rescinded and PAG to be created.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
                <p class="line874"
                  style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:105%"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;line-height:105%;font-family:Calibri">If no
                    Exclusion Notices filed, ballot becomes effective at
                    end of Review Period.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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                <p class="MsoNormal"
                  style="text-align:center;line-height:105%"
                  align="center">Upon filing of Review Notice by Chair<o:p></o:p></p>
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style="width:79.35pt;border-top:none;border-left:none;border-bottom:solid
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                <p class="MsoNormal"
                  style="text-align:center;line-height:105%"
                  align="center">30 days after filing of Review Notice
                  by Chair<o:p></o:p></p>
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            style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
        <p class="line874" style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span
            style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">From Bylaw 2.3:
            If the Draft Guideline Ballot is proposing a Final
            Maintenance Guideline, such ballot will include a redline or
            comparison showing the set of changes from the Final
            Guideline section(s) intended to become a Final Maintenance
            Guideline, and need not include a copy of the full set of
            guidelines.  Such redline or comparison shall be made
            against the Final Guideline section(s) as they exist at the
            time a ballot is proposed, and need not take into
            consideration other ballots that may be proposed
            subsequently, except as provided in Bylaw Section 2.3(j).</span><o:p></o:p></p>
        <p class="line874" style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span
            style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
        <p class="line862" style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span
            style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri;">Votes must be
            cast by posting an on-list reply to this thread on the
            Public list.  A vote in favor of the motion must indicate a
            clear 'yes' in the response. A vote against must indicate a
            clear 'no' in the response. A vote to abstain must indicate
            a clear 'abstain' in the response. Unclear responses will
            not be counted. The latest vote received from any
            representative of a voting member before the close of the
            voting period will be counted. Voting members are listed
            here: </span><font color="#000000"><a
              href="https://cabforum.org/members/"><span
                style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri;">https://cabforum.org/members/</span></a></font><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:windowtext"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal">In order for the motion to be adopted, two
          thirds or more of the votes cast by members in the CA category
          and greater than 50% of the votes cast by members in the
          browser category must be in favor.  <span
            style="background:white">Quorum is shown on CA/Browser Forum
            wiki.  Under Bylaw 2.2(g), at least the required quorum
            number must participate in the ballot for the ballot to be
            valid, either by voting in favor, voting against, or
            abstaining.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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