<html><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class="">Hi Gerv,<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">My thought on this is to have the rules/guidelines so unreasonable conduct doesn’t happen. As a corollary, society has laws against crime, with corresponding penalties, to deter certain behaviors. We know that the penalty for murder is at least a life sentence in prison, and the death penalty in some states. This deters people from going out and killing other people.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">To answer your question below, <b class=""><u class="">yes</u></b>, we have seen such conduct. Other members have as well and have mentioned it to me - which is why the idea of a code of conduct was presented for discussion at the F2F. There are serious concerns about the lack of professionalism, respect, and courtesy in the Forum. You may not get other responses to your email, because some Forum members may not feel comfortable disclosing their concerns in this type of forum.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Again, if you have specific language changes to the proposed Code of Conduct you’d like to propose, we’d be happy to consider them. </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><div class=""><br class="">Best regards,<br class=""><br class="">Virginia Fournier<br class="">Senior Standards Counsel<br class=""> Apple Inc.<br class="">☏ 669-227-9595<br class="">✉︎ <a href="mailto:vmf@apple.com" class="">vmf@apple.com</a><br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class=""></div><br class="">On Apr 26, 2017, at 9:48 AM, Gervase Markham <<a href="mailto:gerv@mozilla.org" class="">gerv@mozilla.org</a>> wrote:<br class=""><br class="">On 22/04/17 01:56, Virginia Fournier via Public wrote:<br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">We’re proposing adding the Code of Conduct to the Bylaws through a<br class="">Ballot, to make sure it’s enforceable and everyone takes it seriously.<br class=""></blockquote><br class="">I have one other question for the whole group: in their time as members<br class="">of the Forum, has anyone seen conduct which they reasonably believe<br class="">would have led to censure under the current draft of the Code of<br class="">Conduct, had it been in force?<br class=""><br class="">Gerv<br class=""><br class=""><br class=""></div></body></html>