<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=us-ascii"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><div class="">Gerv,</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I would prefer to see this fixed concurrently with a clean up of Enterprise RA to make it very clear what we expect an Enterprise RA to be able to independently validate and what requirements they must meet.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Thanks,</div><div class="">Peter</div><br class=""><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Apr 20, 2017, at 9:39 AM, Gervase Markham via Public <<a href="mailto:public@cabforum.org" class="">public@cabforum.org</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class="">
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<div class="WordSection1"><o:p class=""></o:p>Hi everyone,<br class="">
<br class="">
This updates the section 8.4 change to use slightly clearer
wording.<br class="">
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Can I get a couple of endorsers?<br class="">
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Gerv<br class="">
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<b class="">Ballot XXX - Forbid DTPs from doing Domain/IP Ownership
Validation<br class="">
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<b class="">Purpose of Ballot: </b>At the moment, CAs are permitted to
delegate the process of domain and IP address validation.
However, permitting such delegations is problematic due to the
way audits work - the auditing of such work may or may not be
required and, if it is, those audit documents may not make it
back to root programs for consideration. Although the audit
situation also needs fixing, domain validation is an important
enough component of a CA's core competencies that it seems
wiser to remove it from the larger problem and forbid its
delegation. The purpose of this ballot is to ensure that CAs
or their Affiliates are always the ones performing domain/IP
address ownership validation for certificates that CA is
responsible for.<br class="">
</p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal">The
following motion has been proposed by Gervase Markham of
Mozilla and endorsed by XXX of XXX and XXX of XXX:<br class="">
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<pre wrap="" class="">1) In section 1.3.2 of the Baseline Requirements, replace the following sentence:
"The CA MAY delegate the performance of all, or any part, of Section 3.2 requirements to a Delegated Third Party, provided that the process as a whole fulfills all of the requirements of Section 3.2."
with:
"With the exception of sections 3.2.2.4 and 3.2.2.5, the CA MAY delegate the performance of all, or any part, of Section 3.2 requirements to a Delegated Third Party, provided that the process as a whole fulfills all of the requirements of Section 3.2."
2) In sections 3.2.2.4 and 3.2.2.4.11 (if still present in the text at the time the ballot passes), replace the following text:
"either the CA or a Delegated Third Party"
with:
"the CA"
3) In section 3.2.2.4.6, remove the words "or Delegated Third Party".
4) In section 8.4, remove the paragraph beginning: "If a Delegated Third Party is not currently audited...".
5) In section 8.4, replace the following text:
"If the CA is not using one of the above procedures and the Delegated Third Party is not an Enterprise RA, then"
with:
"For Delegated Third Parties which are not Enterprise RAs, ".
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for approval of this Final Maintenance Guideline ballot is
as follows (exact start and end times may be adjusted to
comply with applicable Bylaws and IPR Agreement):</span><o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;" class=""><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri" class=""> </span><o:p class=""></o:p></div>
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approves ballot: Review Period (Chair to send Review
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If the Draft Guideline Ballot is proposing a Final
Maintenance Guideline, such ballot will include a redline or
comparison showing the set of changes from the Final
Guideline section(s) intended to become a Final Maintenance
Guideline, and need not include a copy of the full set of
guidelines. Such redline or comparison shall be made
against the Final Guideline section(s) as they exist at the
time a ballot is proposed, and need not take into
consideration other ballots that may be proposed
subsequently, except as provided in Bylaw Section 2.3(j).</span><o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;" class=""><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri" class=""> </span><o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri;" class="">Votes must be
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thirds or more of the votes cast by members in the CA category
and greater than 50% of the votes cast by members in the
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