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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">OK, to move this along (and avoid endless back and forth that won’t resolve anything), I have created a Doodle poll on whether or not Microsoft’s vote on Ballot
194 should be counted. One vote per member please, only members to vote. I will send the Doodle poll out by separate email to the Management list. We will hold the poll open for seven days. I will report the final result (with names of which members voted,
and how they voted) by the Public list.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">If the majority vote on the Doodle poll is that Microsoft’s vote SHOULD be counted, then Ballot 194 will be considered to have been approved by the Members.
Those Members who disagree can start a new ballot to the effect that Ballot 194 should not be considered to have been approved by the members. Because this will not be an amendment to the BRs or the EVGL, it will only be a 14 day vote (7 days discussion,
7 days voting.), with no Review Period. The result on that new vote will be binding on the Ballot 194 result.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">If the majority vote on the Doodle poll is that Microsoft’s vote SHOULD NOT be counted, then we will start a new ballot identical to Ballot 194, including the
retroactivity clause back to the effective date for Ballot 193, which again will take 14 days (7 days discussion, 7 days voting), plus a new 30 day Review Period under our IPR Policy Agreement.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">ALSO, I would ask the Governance Working Group to come up with a procedure to be added to our Bylaws that we will follow when there is a dispute by multiple members
on how to interpret our Bylaws, a Ballot, or a voting result. I have seen a procedure like this in other groups where the Chair makes an initial ruling or determination when there is a dispute, and then any Member can challenge the ruling and call for a vote
of all members. Looks like we need something like that in our Bylaws.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><u><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Members</span></u></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"> – the link to the Doodle poll on this issue will follow
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> Public [mailto:public-bounces@cabforum.org]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Jeremy Rowley via Public<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Sunday, April 16, 2017 8:51 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> CA/Browser Forum Public Discussion List <public@cabforum.org><br>
<b>Cc:</b> Jeremy Rowley <jeremy.rowley@digicert.com><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [EXTERNAL]Re: [cabfpub] ]RE: Ballot 194 - Effective Date of Ballot 193 Provisions is in the VOTING period (ends April 16)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Yes – this is a conundrum that should be fixed. Issues with the mailing list could completely screw up a vote. Anyone controlling the mailing list could they effectively prevent
voting if they decided to manage the mailing list in a way to prevent member messages from reaching the mailing list.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">I don’t think the public archive should be/is controlling. None of the members check the archive to ensure their vote shows up on the list and the archives aren’t mentioned
in the bylaws.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">I’m not sure what happens in the current situation. As Peter points, the bylaws say “Votes not submitted to the mailing list are not considered valid.” As this one was submitted
to the mailing list, but rejected, it is valid? However, as Ryan pointed out “All votes take place via the Public Mail List”, which clearly did not happen. The penalty for votes that don’t take place via the public mailing list but are submitted to the public
mailing list is not specified in the bylaws. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">What do other groups do in this circumstance?
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> Public [<a href="mailto:public-bounces@cabforum.org">mailto:public-bounces@cabforum.org</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Peter Bowen via Public<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Sunday, April 16, 2017 7:17 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> CA/Browser Forum Public Discussion List <<a href="mailto:public@cabforum.org">public@cabforum.org</a>><br>
<b>Cc:</b> Peter Bowen <<a href="mailto:pzb@amzn.com">pzb@amzn.com</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [cabfpub] ]RE: Ballot 194 - Effective Date of Ballot 193 Provisions is in the VOTING period (ends April 16)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Regardless of this outcome, I think it makes sense to clarify that only votes recorded in archives of the public mailing list are counted in the future. We have open voting, so it is unfair to a proposition proponent or opponent if one
side has information the other does not. Alternatively we could look into a sealed vote system to avoid this in the future.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Apr 16, 2017, at 6:07 PM, Kirk Hall via Public <<a href="mailto:public@cabforum.org">public@cabforum.org</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Ryan, it’s kind of unseemly for one browser to try to block the vote of another browser. Google were the only Forum member to vote no on this ballot – 20 CAs
and 2 browsers voted yes. Clearly the consensus of the members is in favor of this ballot, and technically Microsoft cast its vote correctly, even if it was not forwarded by our server. I would suggest you reconsider following this line.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span class="apple-converted-space"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> </span></span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Public
[<a href="mailto:public-bounces@cabforum.org"><span style="color:purple">mailto:public-bounces@cabforum.org</span></a>]<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><b>On Behalf Of<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Ryan Sleevi via Public<br>
<b>Sent:</b><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>Sunday, April 16, 2017 6:03 PM<br>
<b>To:</b><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>CA/Browser Forum Public Discussion List <<a href="mailto:public@cabforum.org"><span style="color:purple">public@cabforum.org</span></a>><br>
<b>Cc:</b><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>Ryan Sleevi <<a href="mailto:sleevi@google.com"><span style="color:purple">sleevi@google.com</span></a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>[EXTERNAL]Re: [cabfpub] ]RE: Ballot 194 - Effective Date of Ballot 193 Provisions is in the VOTING period (ends April 16)</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">To that end, this was a concern raised nearly a year ago when discussing what would become Ballot 174, with respect to Section 9.16.3<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><a href="https://cabforum.org/pipermail/public/2016-April/007468.html"><span style="color:purple">https://cabforum.org/pipermail/public/2016-April/007468.html</span></a><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>and <a href="https://cabforum.org/pipermail/public/2016-April/007480.html"><span style="color:purple">https://cabforum.org/pipermail/public/2016-April/007480.html</span></a><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">There is certainly precedent within the Forum that "posted" shall mean available for access via the archives, as that can be objectively measured and quantified. I do not believe we can reasonably argue that "posted" shall mean sent to
this address. It cannot be shown, for example, that Microsoft did not block the posting on their end, thereby preventing proper disclosure by preventing egress from their network.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">This is also not the first time in which the Chair has been the only recipient of a message, and which the interpretation has resulted in some concern. I will note Symantec's previous exclusions, posted only to Dean (in his role as the
previous chair), created uncertainty and ambiguity with respect to whether they abided by the Bylaws.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I would encourage you, for the avoidance of doubt and conflict, to reconsider your position, as I do not believe it is supported by the precedent, intent, or bylaws of the Forum.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Sun, Apr 16, 2017 at 8:57 PM, Peter Bowen via Public <<a href="mailto:public@cabforum.org" target="_blank"><span style="color:purple">public@cabforum.org</span></a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Kirk,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I suspect that the mailing list system rejected this email as Gordon is not subscribed to the public mailing list. The bylaws say: "<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333;background:white">Votes not
submitted to the Public Mail List will not be considered valid, and will not be counted for any purpose.</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333">”</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333;background:white">The bylaws do not appear to contemplate what happens if the vote is _submitted_ to the mailing list but not accepted. In this case it was copied to
the chair, so you alone saw it. If Gordon had not explicitly copied you, then it would not have been counted. As you were explicitly copied, you received it.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333;background:white">Given that the bylaws say "All voting will take place via the Public Mail List”, and the mailing list archives allow verification of whether the email
was posted, I am leaning towards the view that this is not a valid vote. However I can see how it is a grey area.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333;background:white">Thanks,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333;background:white">Peter</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Apr 16, 2017, at 5:36 PM, Kirk Hall via Public <<a href="mailto:public@cabforum.org" target="_blank"><span style="color:purple">public@cabforum.org</span></a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">This is the vote from Microsoft.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span class="gmail-m-4394909999074114016apple-converted-space"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> </span></span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Gordon
Bock [<a href="mailto:gbock@microsoft.com" target="_blank"><span style="color:#954F72">mailto:gbock@microsoft.com</span></a>]<span class="gmail-m-4394909999074114016apple-converted-space"> </span><br>
<b>Sent:</b><span class="gmail-m-4394909999074114016apple-converted-space"> </span>Thursday, April 13, 2017 8:46 AM<br>
<b>To:</b><span class="gmail-m-4394909999074114016apple-converted-space"> </span>Kirk Hall <<a href="mailto:Kirk.Hall@entrustdatacard.com" target="_blank"><span style="color:#954F72">Kirk.Hall@entrustdatacard.com</span></a>>; CA/Browser Forum Public Discussion
List <<a href="mailto:public@cabforum.org" target="_blank"><span style="color:#954F72">public@cabforum.org</span></a>><br>
<b>Subject:<span class="gmail-m-4394909999074114016apple-converted-space"> </span></b>RE: Ballot 194 - Effective Date of Ballot 193 Provisions is in the VOTING period (ends April 16)</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Thanks,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">-Gordon</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span class="gmail-m-4394909999074114016apple-converted-space"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> </span></span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Kirk
Hall [<a href="mailto:Kirk.Hall@entrustdatacard.com" target="_blank"><span style="color:#954F72">mailto:Kirk.Hall@entrustdatacard.com</span></a>]<span class="gmail-m-4394909999074114016apple-converted-space"> </span><br>
<b>Sent:</b><span class="gmail-m-4394909999074114016apple-converted-space"> </span>Sunday, April 9, 2017 4:30 PM<br>
<b>To:</b><span class="gmail-m-4394909999074114016apple-converted-space"> </span>CA/Browser Forum Public Discussion List <<a href="mailto:public@cabforum.org" target="_blank"><span style="color:#954F72">public@cabforum.org</span></a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b><span class="gmail-m-4394909999074114016apple-converted-space"> </span>Ballot 194 - Effective Date of Ballot 193 Provisions is in the VOTING period (ends April 16)</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Purpose of Ballot:</span></b><span class="gmail-m-4394909999074114016apple-converted-space"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"> </span></span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Recent
Ballot 193 reduced the maximum period for certificates and for reuse of vetting data for DV and OV certificates from 39 months to 825 days. The effective date for reducing the maximum validity period of certificates was specified as March 1, 2018, but no
effective date was specified for when the reduction of the maximum period for reuse of vetting data becomes effective.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">It was the intention of the authors of Ballot 193 that the effective date for reducing the maximum period for reuse of vetting data under BR 4.2.1 would also be March 1, 2018.
This ballot is intended to clarify that intention. The ballot also makes these changes retroactive to the effective date of Ballot 193 so there is no gap period.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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the set of changes from the Final Guideline section(s) intended to become a Final Maintenance Guideline” and that “[s]uch redline or comparison shall be made against the Final Guideline section(s) as they exist at the time a ballot is proposed”.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">To avoid confusion, this Ballot will show the proposed changes to BR 4.2.1 will be presented two ways: (1) a comparison of the changes to BR 4.2.1 as it existed before Ballot
193 (which is as BR 4.2.1 exists at this time this ballot is proposed), and also (2) a comparison of the changes to BR 4.2.1 as it will exist after the Review Period for Ballot 193 is completed (assuming no Exclusion Notices are filed).</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">The following motion has been proposed by Chris Bailey of Entrust Datacard and endorsed by Ben Wilson of DigiCert, and Wayne Thayer of GoDaddy to introduce new Final Maintenance
Guidelines for the "Baseline Requirements Certificate Policy for the Issuance and Management of Publicly-Trusted Certificates" (Baseline Requirements) and the "Guidelines for the Issuance and Management of Extended Validation Certificates" (EV Guidelines).</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><u><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Ballot Section 1</span></u></b><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><i><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">[Ballot amendments shown against BR 4.2.1<span class="gmail-m-4394909999074114016apple-converted-space"> </span><u>as it currently exists without the changes adopted in Ballot
193</u>]</span></i><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">The certificate request MAY include all factual information about the Applicant to be included in the Certificate, and such additional information as is necessary for the CA
to obtain from the Applicant in order to comply with these Requirements and the CA’s Certificate Policy and/or Certification Practice Statement. In cases where the certificate request does not contain all the necessary information about the Applicant, the
CA SHALL obtain the remaining information from the Applicant or, having obtained it from a reliable, independent, third</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Cambria Math",serif">‐</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">party
data source, confirm it with the Applicant. The CA SHALL establish and follow a documented procedure for verifying all data requested for inclusion in the Certificate by the Applicant.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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Domain Name or IP address to be included in the Certificate’s SubjectAltName extension.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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that<b><u>:</u></b><span class="gmail-m-4394909999074114016apple-converted-space"> </span><i><s>the CA obtained the data or document from a source specified under Section 3.2 no more than thirty</s></i></span><i><s><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Cambria Math",serif">‐</span></s></i><i><s><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">nine
(39) months prior to issuing the Certificate.</span></s></i><o:p></o:p></p>
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Certificate’s approval, as reasonably necessary to ensure that such requests are properly verified under these Requirements.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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verify High Risk Certificate Requests provides at least the same level of assurance as the CA’s own processes.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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to obtain from the Applicant in order to comply with these Requirements and the CA’s Certificate Policy and/or Certification Practice Statement. In cases where the certificate request does not contain all the necessary information about the Applicant, the
CA SHALL obtain the remaining information from the Applicant or, having obtained it from a reliable, independent, third</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Cambria Math",serif">‐</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">party
data source, confirm it with the Applicant. The CA SHALL establish and follow a documented procedure for verifying all data requested for inclusion in the Certificate by the Applicant.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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that<b><u>:</u></b><span class="gmail-m-4394909999074114016apple-converted-space"> </span><i><s>the CA obtained the data or document from a source specified under Section 3.2 no more than 825 days<span class="gmail-m-4394909999074114016apple-converted-space"><b> </b></span>prior
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Certificate’s approval, as reasonably necessary to ensure that such requests are properly verified under these Requirements.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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verify High Risk Certificate Requests provides at least the same level of assurance as the CA’s own processes.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">From Bylaw 2.3: If the Draft Guideline Ballot is proposing a Final Maintenance Guideline, such ballot will include a redline or comparison showing the set of changes from the
Final Guideline section(s) intended to become a Final Maintenance Guideline, and need not include a copy of the full set of guidelines. Such redline or comparison shall be made against the Final Guideline section(s) as they exist at the time a ballot is proposed,
and need not take into consideration other ballots that may be proposed subsequently, except as provided in Bylaw Section 2.3(j).</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Votes must be cast by posting an on-list reply to this thread on the Public list. A vote in favor of the motion must indicate a clear 'yes' in the response. A vote against must
indicate a clear 'no' in the response. A vote to abstain must indicate a clear 'abstain' in the response. Unclear responses will not be counted. The latest vote received from any representative of a voting member before the close of the voting period will
be counted. Voting members are listed here:<span class="gmail-m-4394909999074114016apple-converted-space"> </span></span><a href="https://cabforum.org/members/" target="_blank"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:windowtext">https://cabforum.org/members/</span></a><o:p></o:p></p>
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must be in favor. <span class="gmail-m-4394909999074114016apple-converted-space"> </span><span style="background:white">Quorum is shown on CA/Browser Forum wiki. Under Bylaw 2.2(g), at least the required quorum number must participate in the ballot for the
ballot to be valid, either by voting in favor, voting against, or abstaining.</span></span><o:p></o:p></p>
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