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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body bgcolor=white lang=ZH-TW link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Dimitris,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> In Taiwan, according our Company Act, the company name must be unique for the whole country<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><a href="http://law.moj.gov.tw/Eng/LawClass/LawAll.aspx?PCode=J0080001">http://law.moj.gov.tw/Eng/LawClass/LawAll.aspx?PCode=J0080001</a><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='text-indent:12.0pt'><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Please see Company Act article 18, such as “No company may use a corporate name which is identical with that of another company. “<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='text-indent:12.0pt'><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='text-indent:12.0pt'><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> There will be no two companies with the same name such as “ABC company” in Taiwan. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> But what about in other country? Is it allowed two company with same company name in Greece?<o:p></o:p></span></p><pre><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></pre><pre><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> In Taiwan, a corporation can be registered at country-level but can also be register at city/county-level. If there is a country-level corporation named “Farmer’s Association” of which physical address is located in Taipei City, with current Subject DN rule of BR, its Subject DN will be “C=TW, L=Taipei City, O=Farmer’s Association”. <o:p></o:p></span></pre><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> However, if there is also a city/county-level “Farmer’s Association” in Taipei City, its Subject DN will also be “C=TW, L=Taipei City, O=Farmer’s Association”. How do you distinguish them by DN?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> So a better way is to let DN of the corporation that registered at country-level be C=TW, O=Farmer’s Association<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> And let DN of the corporation that registered at city/county-level be<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>C=TW, L=Taipei City, O=Farmer’s Association<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> Please see Annex B of ITU-T X.521 (Suggested name form and Directory information tree structures), Please note path 1 -> 3, it suggests that there is no need to include a Locality attribute in the directory name for a corporation registered at country-level.</span><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:細明體;color:windowtext'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> We hope you can support Wen-Cheng’s <a href="https://cabforum.org/pipermail/public/2017-March/010123.html">https://cabforum.org/pipermail/public/2017-March/010123.html</a><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:細明體;color:windowtext'>to add a sub-section k under the section 7.1.4.2.2 Subject Distinguished Nam Fields as follows:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:細明體;color:windowtext'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:細明體;color:windowtext'>7.1.4.2.2 Subject Distinguished Nam Fields<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:細明體;color:windowtext'>……<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:細明體;color:windowtext'>k. Accepting X.500 Directory Naming Conventions of Existing PKIs<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:細明體;color:windowtext'>For PKIs where the X.500 directory naming conventions are adopted for subject distinguished names, the existing naming rules of those PKIs are acceptable if the following conditions are satisfied:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:細明體;color:windowtext'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:細明體;color:windowtext'>i. the naming rules can unambiguously identify the subject; and<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:細明體;color:windowtext'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:細明體;color:windowtext'>ii. only commonly-used naming attributes recommended by RFC 5280, RFC 3739, or ETSI EN 319 412 are used in the naming rules.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:細明體;color:windowtext'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><pre><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> or support Ben’s version as <a href="https://cabforum.org/pipermail/public/2017-March/010215.html">https://cabforum.org/pipermail/public/2017-March/010215.html</a> that<o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></pre><pre style='text-indent:12.0pt'><span lang=EN-US style='color:windowtext'>adding the following sentence(s) to sections on localityName and stateOrProvinceName of SSL BR:<o:p></o:p></span></pre><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:細明體;color:windowtext'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:細明體;color:windowtext'>This field is also optional if the organization is uniquely identifiable by registration in a national-government-adopted X.500 directory that does not contain the [localityName/stateOrProvinceName] attribute.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> Please discuss. Thanks.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> Li-Chun Chen<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext'> Public [mailto:public-bounces@cabforum.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Dimitris Zacharopoulos via Public<br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, March 22, 2017 10:21 PM<br><b>To:</b> public@cabforum.org<br><b>Cc:</b> Dimitris Zacharopoulos<br><b>Subject:</b> [</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"新細明體","serif";color:windowtext'>外部郵件</span><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext'>] Re: [cabfpub] Naming rules<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span lang=EN-US>If both companies "ABC" are located in the same city, then with current rules, there will be a DN collision, right? I don't think you can avoid that with the current BRs.<br><br>Dimitris.<o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>On 22/3/2017 3:56 μμ, Jeremy Rowley via Public wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Correct. For #5 to be true, #3 must be true (which is still unclear), and OV must represent jurisdiction of incorporation (which it doesn’t). </span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><a name="_MailEndCompose"><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> </span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></a></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> Ryan Sleevi [<a href="mailto:sleevi@google.com">mailto:sleevi@google.com</a>] <br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, March 22, 2017 7:33 AM<br><b>To:</b> CA/Browser Forum Public Discussion List <a href="mailto:public@cabforum.org"><public@cabforum.org></a><br><b>Cc:</b> Gervase Markham <a href="mailto:gerv@mozilla.org"><gerv@mozilla.org></a>; Jeremy Rowley <a href="mailto:jeremy.rowley@digicert.com"><jeremy.rowley@digicert.com></a><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [cabfpub] Naming rules</span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US> <o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US> <o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US> <o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>On Wed, Mar 22, 2017 at 9:30 AM, Jeremy Rowley via Public <<a href="mailto:public@cabforum.org" target="_blank">public@cabforum.org</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>There's one important item that seems unclear to me. What I took from reading Li Chun's message:<br><br>1) Taiwan has a country-level registration<br>2) Taiwan has a city-level registration<br>3) The two are not mutually exclusive (ie ABC Company at the country level might be a completely different entity than ABC Company at the city level)<br>4) You want the BRs to distinguish whether the ABC Company was registered with the country of Taiwan vs. a city registration.<br>5) If locality is included in a cert, the actions of ABC Company (country) could be falsely attributed to the ABC Company (local)<br><br>I can't tell if #3 is true. If it is, then I can see why we'd want to make the change. If #3 is not true, then the change is only for convenience in Taiwan.<o:p></o:p></span></p></blockquote><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>#5 is true if and only if we view OV information to indicate jurisdiction of incorporation. If it indicates physical address, then #5 is not true, correct? <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"新細明體","serif"'><br><br><br><o:p></o:p></span></p><pre><span lang=EN-US>_______________________________________________<o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre><span lang=EN-US>Public mailing list<o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre><span lang=EN-US><a href="mailto:Public@cabforum.org">Public@cabforum.org</a><o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre><span lang=EN-US><a href="https://cabforum.org/mailman/listinfo/public">https://cabforum.org/mailman/listinfo/public</a><o:p></o:p></span></pre></blockquote><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"新細明體","serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div></body></html><br><html><div><div>本信件可能包含中華電信股份有限公司機密資訊,非指定之收件者,請勿蒐集、處理或利用本信件內容,並請銷毀此信件. 如為指定收件者,應確實保護郵件中本公司之營業機密及個人資料,不得任意傳佈或揭露,並應自行確認本郵件之附檔與超連結之安全性,以共同善盡資訊安全與個資保護責任. </div><div>Please be advised that this email message (including any attachments) contains confidential information and may be legally privileged. 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