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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">Good point. I don’t have any problem with the ballot being effective immediately because as you point out, we’re already in compliance with it at the request of root programs. I do still
believe that this should be clearly stated in this ballot.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">In general I think that every ballot should include an effective date rather than relying on the date the ballot is integrated into an updated version of the applicable guidelines (or some
other inconsistent interpretation of the rules).<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-family:Calibri;color:black">From: </span>
</b><span style="font-family:Calibri;color:black">Ryan Sleevi <sleevi@google.com><br>
<b>Date: </b>Thursday, March 23, 2017 at 8:51 AM<br>
<b>To: </b>CA/Browser Forum Public Discussion List <public@cabforum.org><br>
<b>Cc: </b>Wayne Thayer <wthayer@godaddy.com><br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: [cabfpub] [EXT] Re: Revised domain validation ballot<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Wayne, <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">March 1 was the effective date communicated from some root members forbidding the use of any of the other methods outside of 3.2.2.4 1-10.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Given this already passed effective date, do you believe that it still needs such an effective date?<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Thu, Mar 23, 2017 at 11:38 AM, Wayne Thayer via Public <<a href="mailto:public@cabforum.org" target="_blank">public@cabforum.org</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">Jeremy - given that we’re removing 3.2.2.4.11 (“any other method”) with this ballot, we should include an effective date.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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</span></b><span style="font-family:Calibri;color:black">Public <<a href="mailto:public-bounces@cabforum.org" target="_blank">public-bounces@cabforum.org</a>> on behalf of Jeremy Rowley via Public <<a href="mailto:public@cabforum.org" target="_blank">public@cabforum.org</a>><br>
<b>Reply-To: </b>CA/Browser Forum Public Discussion List <<a href="mailto:public@cabforum.org" target="_blank">public@cabforum.org</a>><br>
<b>Date: </b>Wednesday, March 22, 2017 at 10:49 AM<br>
<b>To: </b>Rick Andrews <<a href="mailto:Rick_Andrews@symantec.com" target="_blank">Rick_Andrews@symantec.com</a>>, CA/Browser Forum Public Discussion List <<a href="mailto:public@cabforum.org" target="_blank">public@cabforum.org</a>>, Ryan Sleevi <<a href="mailto:sleevi@google.com" target="_blank">sleevi@google.com</a>><br>
<b>Cc: </b>Jeremy Rowley <<a href="mailto:jeremy.rowley@digicert.com" target="_blank">jeremy.rowley@digicert.com</a>><br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: [cabfpub] [EXT] Re: Revised domain validation ballot</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">Yep – thanks. I’ll add that to the list.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri"> Rick Andrews [mailto:<a href="mailto:Rick_Andrews@symantec.com" target="_blank">Rick_Andrews@symantec.com</a>]
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<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, March 22, 2017 11:47 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> CA/Browser Forum Public Discussion List <<a href="mailto:public@cabforum.org" target="_blank">public@cabforum.org</a>>; Ryan Sleevi <<a href="mailto:sleevi@google.com" target="_blank">sleevi@google.com</a>><br>
<b>Cc:</b> Jeremy Rowley <<a href="mailto:jeremy.rowley@digicert.com" target="_blank">jeremy.rowley@digicert.com</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [EXT] Re: [cabfpub] Revised domain validation ballot</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#44546A">Jeremy, I thought we were also going to remove the “Required Website Content” definition too. Your modified version
still contains that term. Perhaps you were thinking of removing the definition and then using “required website content” in lower case?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri"> Public [<a href="mailto:public-bounces@cabforum.org" target="_blank">mailto:public-bounces@cabforum.org</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Jeremy Rowley via Public<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, March 22, 2017 7:13 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Ryan Sleevi <<a href="mailto:sleevi@google.com" target="_blank">sleevi@google.com</a>>; CA/Browser Forum Public Discussion List <<a href="mailto:public@cabforum.org" target="_blank">public@cabforum.org</a>><br>
<b>Cc:</b> Jeremy Rowley <<a href="mailto:jeremy.rowley@digicert.com" target="_blank">jeremy.rowley@digicert.com</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [EXT] Re: [cabfpub] Revised domain validation ballot</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">PDF version attached. </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri"> Ryan Sleevi [<a href="mailto:sleevi@google.com" target="_blank">mailto:sleevi@google.com</a>]
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<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, March 22, 2017 8:08 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> CA/Browser Forum Public Discussion List <<a href="mailto:public@cabforum.org" target="_blank">public@cabforum.org</a>><br>
<b>Cc:</b> Jeremy Rowley <<a href="mailto:jeremy.rowley@digicert.com" target="_blank">jeremy.rowley@digicert.com</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [cabfpub] Revised domain validation ballot</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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Jeremy,<o:p></o:p></p>
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Do you have any version other than a Word document to make available to members?<o:p></o:p></p>
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On Wed, Mar 22, 2017 at 9:59 AM, Jeremy Rowley via Public <<a href="mailto:public@cabforum.org" target="_blank">public@cabforum.org</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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Hi everyone, <o:p></o:p></p>
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Attached is a proposed domain validation ballot that accomplishes three things:<o:p></o:p></p>
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1.<span style="font-size:7.0pt"> </span>The ballot adds the domain methods removed by ballot 180-182 back into the BRs.
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2.<span style="font-size:7.0pt"> </span>The ballot removes the “any other method’<o:p></o:p></p>
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3.<span style="font-size:7.0pt"> </span>The ballot revises the .well-known method to fix some issues identified by the WG<o:p></o:p></p>
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4.<span style="font-size:7.0pt"> </span>The ballot fixes an incorrect cross-reference.
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<span style="color:#888888">Jeremy</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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