<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=UTF-8"></head><body><div>This is fine if the locality/state is not the only way to reach the intended goal.</div><div><br></div><div>Thanks,</div><div>M.D.</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div id="composer_signature"><div style="font-size:85%;color:#575757" dir="auto">Sent from Samsung tablet.</div></div><div><br></div><div style="font-size:100%;color:#000000"><!-- originalMessage --><div>-------- Original message --------</div><div>From: Ryan Sleevi <sleevi@google.com> </div><div>Date: 3/22/17 15:35 (GMT+01:00) </div><div>To: CA/Browser Forum Public Discussion List <public@cabforum.org> </div><div>Cc: "Moudrick M. Dadashov" <md@ssc.lt> </div><div>Subject: Re: [cabfpub] Naming rules </div><div><br></div></div><div dir="ltr">While I appreciate the goal-oriented approach, as we've seen from the past decade of Forum operation, without accompanying the what with the how, we end up not accomplishing either.</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Mar 22, 2017 at 10:26 AM, Moudrick M. Dadashov via Public <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:public@cabforum.org" target="_blank">public@cabforum.org</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div>Right, there maybe other confusing cases that's whš I think we should just require (what) uniqueness instead of locality/state (how).</div><span class=""><div><br></div><div>Thanks,</div><div>M.D.</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div id="m_-7154756260760505200composer_signature"><div style="font-size:85%;color:#575757" dir="auto">Sent from Samsung tablet.</div></div><div><br></div></span><div><div class="h5"><div style="font-size:100%;color:#000000"><div>-------- Original message --------</div><div>From: Dimitris Zacharopoulos via Public <<a href="mailto:public@cabforum.org" target="_blank">public@cabforum.org</a>> </div><div>Date: 3/22/17 15:20 (GMT+01:00) </div><div>To: <a href="mailto:public@cabforum.org" target="_blank">public@cabforum.org</a> </div><div>Cc: Dimitris Zacharopoulos <<a href="mailto:jimmy@it.auth.gr" target="_blank">jimmy@it.auth.gr</a>> </div><div>Subject: Re: [cabfpub] Naming rules </div><div><br></div></div>
If both companies "ABC" are located in the same city, then with
current rules, there will be a DN collision, right? I don't think
you can avoid that with the current BRs.<br>
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Dimitris.<br>
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<div class="m_-7154756260760505200moz-cite-prefix">On 22/3/2017 3:56 μμ, Jeremy Rowley via
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Correct.
For #5 to be true, #3 must be true (which is still unclear),
and OV must represent jurisdiction of incorporation (which
it doesn’t). <u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<b>Subject:</b> Re: [cabfpub] Naming rules<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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Jeremy Rowley via Public <<a href="mailto:public@cabforum.org" target="_blank">public@cabforum.org</a>>
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<p class="MsoNormal">There's one important item that
seems unclear to me. What I took from reading Li
Chun's message:<br>
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1) Taiwan has a country-level registration<br>
2) Taiwan has a city-level registration<br>
3) The two are not mutually exclusive (ie ABC
Company at the country level might be a completely
different entity than ABC Company at the city level)<br>
4) You want the BRs to distinguish whether the
ABC Company was registered with the country of Taiwan
vs. a city registration.<br>
5) If locality is included in a cert, the actions
of ABC Company (country) could be falsely attributed
to the ABC Company (local)<br>
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I can't tell if #3 is true. If it is, then I can see
why we'd want to make the change. If #3 is not true,
then the change is only for convenience in Taiwan.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">#5 is true if and only if we view
OV information to indicate jurisdiction of
incorporation. If it indicates physical address, then
#5 is not true, correct? <u></u><u></u></p>
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