<div dir="ltr">While I appreciate the goal-oriented approach, as we've seen from the past decade of Forum operation, without accompanying the what with the how, we end up not accomplishing either.</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Mar 22, 2017 at 10:26 AM, Moudrick M. Dadashov via Public <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:public@cabforum.org" target="_blank">public@cabforum.org</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div>Right, there maybe other confusing cases that's whš I think we should just require (what) uniqueness instead of locality/state (how).</div><span class=""><div><br></div><div>Thanks,</div><div>M.D.</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div id="m_-7154756260760505200composer_signature"><div style="font-size:85%;color:#575757" dir="auto">Sent from Samsung tablet.</div></div><div><br></div></span><div><div class="h5"><div style="font-size:100%;color:#000000"><div>-------- Original message --------</div><div>From: Dimitris Zacharopoulos via Public <<a href="mailto:public@cabforum.org" target="_blank">public@cabforum.org</a>> </div><div>Date: 3/22/17  15:20  (GMT+01:00) </div><div>To: <a href="mailto:public@cabforum.org" target="_blank">public@cabforum.org</a> </div><div>Cc: Dimitris Zacharopoulos <<a href="mailto:jimmy@it.auth.gr" target="_blank">jimmy@it.auth.gr</a>> </div><div>Subject: Re: [cabfpub] Naming rules </div><div><br></div></div>
    If both companies "ABC" are located in the same city, then with
    current rules, there will be a DN collision, right? I don't think
    you can avoid that with the current BRs.<br>
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    Dimitris.<br>
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    <div class="m_-7154756260760505200moz-cite-prefix">On 22/3/2017 3:56 μμ, Jeremy Rowley via
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        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Correct.
            For #5 to be true, #3 must be true (which is still unclear),
            and OV must represent jurisdiction of incorporation (which
            it doesn’t). <u></u><u></u></span></p>
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            Ryan Sleevi [<a class="m_-7154756260760505200moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:sleevi@google.com" target="_blank">mailto:sleevi@google.com</a>] <br>
            <b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, March 22, 2017 7:33 AM<br>
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            <b>Cc:</b> Gervase Markham <a class="m_-7154756260760505200moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:gerv@mozilla.org" target="_blank"><gerv@mozilla.org></a>; Jeremy
            Rowley <a class="m_-7154756260760505200moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:jeremy.rowley@digicert.com" target="_blank"><jeremy.rowley@digicert.com></a><br>
            <b>Subject:</b> Re: [cabfpub] Naming rules<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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              <p class="MsoNormal">On Wed, Mar 22, 2017 at 9:30 AM,
                Jeremy Rowley via Public <<a href="mailto:public@cabforum.org" target="_blank">public@cabforum.org</a>>
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                <p class="MsoNormal">There's one important item that
                  seems unclear to me. What I took from reading Li
                  Chun's message:<br>
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                  1)      Taiwan has a country-level registration<br>
                  2)      Taiwan has a city-level registration<br>
                  3)      The two are not mutually exclusive (ie ABC
                  Company at the country level might be a completely
                  different entity than ABC Company at the city level)<br>
                  4)      You want the BRs to distinguish whether the
                  ABC Company was registered with the country of Taiwan
                  vs. a city registration.<br>
                  5)      If locality is included in a cert, the actions
                  of ABC Company (country) could be falsely attributed
                  to the ABC Company (local)<br>
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                  I can't tell if #3 is true. If it is, then I can see
                  why we'd want to make the change. If #3 is not true,
                  then the change is only for convenience in Taiwan.<u></u><u></u></p>
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                <p class="MsoNormal">#5 is true if and only if we view
                  OV information to indicate jurisdiction of
                  incorporation. If it indicates physical address, then
                  #5 is not true, correct? <u></u><u></u></p>
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