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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=ZH-TW link=blue vlink=purple style='text-justify-trim:punctuation'><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoPlainText><span lang=EN-US>Peter,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoPlainText><span lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoPlainText><span lang=EN-US> Please see our responses inline below.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoPlainText><span lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoPlainText><span lang=EN-US>-----Original Message-----<br>From: Public [mailto:public-bounces@cabforum.org] On Behalf Of Peter Bowen via Public<br>Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2017 12:04 AM<br>To: CA/Browser Forum Public Discussion List<br>Cc: Peter Bowen<br>Subject: [</span><span style='font-family:"新細明體","serif"'>外部郵件</span><span lang=EN-US>] Re: [cabfpub] Naming rules</span></p><p class=MsoPlainText><span lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoPlainText><span lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoPlainText><span lang=EN-US>> On Mar 6, 2017, at 2:59 AM, Gervase Markham via Public <<a href="mailto:public@cabforum.org"><span style='color:windowtext;text-decoration:none'>public@cabforum.org</span></a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoPlainText><span lang=EN-US>> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoPlainText><span lang=EN-US>> On 06/03/17 06:51, Kirk Hall wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoPlainText><span lang=EN-US>>> Gerv </span><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Courier New"'>–</span><span lang=EN-US> we worked on BR 9.16.3 together </span><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Courier New"'>–</span><span lang=EN-US> the whole point was to ALLOW <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoPlainText><span lang=EN-US>>> CAs to deviate from (modify) the BRs if required by applicable law<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoPlainText><span lang=EN-US>> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoPlainText><span lang=EN-US>> Yes, if _required_ by applicable _law_. I may be misunderstanding the <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoPlainText><span lang=EN-US>> situation, but if Peter's summary is correct:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoPlainText><span lang=EN-US>> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoPlainText><span lang=EN-US>> "I believe the government on Taiwan falls into the latter case. They <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoPlainText><span lang=EN-US>> have a PKI which has the policy that names must be taken from an <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoPlainText><span lang=EN-US>> existing Directory Information Tree operated by the government. Many <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoPlainText><span lang=EN-US>> of the Names in the existing DIT don</span><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Courier New"'>’</span><span lang=EN-US>t include attributes that are <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoPlainText><span lang=EN-US>> required by the BRs."<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoPlainText><span lang=EN-US>> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoPlainText><span lang=EN-US>> ...then this is not a 9.16.3 situation. There is no law anyone has <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoPlainText><span lang=EN-US>> quoted which requires Chunghwa Telecom to issue certificates for this <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoPlainText><span lang=EN-US>> PKI from publicly-trusted roots. So they can solve the "problem" <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoPlainText><span lang=EN-US>> either by not issuing certificates for this PKI, or by issuing them <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoPlainText><span lang=EN-US>> from private roots. The fact that they might _want_ to issue <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoPlainText><span lang=EN-US>> certificates for it from publicly-trusted roots for convenience is not <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoPlainText><span lang=EN-US>> in itself enough to allow them to use 9.16.3.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoPlainText><span lang=EN-US>> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoPlainText><span lang=EN-US>> Let's imagine this DIT was operated by a private company. Would they <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoPlainText><span lang=EN-US>> then be allowed to use 9.16.3? Of course not. The fact that the <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoPlainText><span lang=EN-US>> government is operating it doesn't make any difference, unless there's <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoPlainText><span lang=EN-US>> a law which says that all Taiwanese CAs _must_ issue for it from any <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoPlainText><span lang=EN-US>> root the government chooses. The government doesn't get a special <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoPlainText><span lang=EN-US>> carve-out from the BRs for its PKIs just be virtue of being the government.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoPlainText><span lang=EN-US>> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoPlainText><span lang=EN-US>> As I said, I may have misunderstood the situation, but that's how I <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoPlainText><span lang=EN-US>> see it at the moment.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoPlainText><span lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoPlainText><span lang=EN-US>Li-Chun: Can you clarify? Is there any law in Taiwan that requires specific name forms or is this discussion about getting an existing established PKI to be BR-compliant by changing the BRs instead of changing the PKI?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoPlainText><span lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoPlainText><span lang=EN-US style='color:blue'>===><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:blue'>We hope this discussion is about getting an existing established PKI to be BR-compliant by changing the BRs instead of changing the PKI.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:blue'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:blue'>The DIT naming rules of Taiwan Government PKI (GPKI) were defined according to related laws or regulations. For government entities in the DIT, their Distinguished Names (DNs) were specified according to the related government organizational laws, such as Organizational Act of the Executive Yuan ("Executive Yuan" is our Cabinet.). For private organizations such as companies or business entities, their Distinguished Names (DNs) were specified according to the name rules required by the related registration laws such as Company Act or Business Registration Act. The DIT naming rules were then incorporated into the CPS of CAs in the GPKI and were also incorporated into the Certificate and CRL profiles of the GPKI. Our Government CA needs to follow the naming rules specified in the CPS and the Certificate Profile. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:blue'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:blue'>For central government agencies/units under the Executive Yuan (i.e., our Cabinet.), the name form is:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:blue'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:blue'>C=TW,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:blue'>O=</span><span style='font-family:"新細明體","serif";color:blue'>行政院</span><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:blue'> (i.e., "Executive Yuan" in Chinese)<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:blue'>OU= the official name of the Ministry, </span><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:blue;background:white'>Council or Commission as specified in the </span><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:blue'>Organizational Act of the Executive Yuan<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:blue'>OU= the official name of the subordinate agency or unit under the Ministry, </span><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:blue;background:white'>Council or Commission as specified in the </span><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:blue'>Organizational </span><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:blue;background:white'>Act of </span><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:blue'>the Ministry, </span><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:blue;background:white'>Council or Commission</span><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:blue'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:blue;background:white'>OU=......Since the government organization is a hierarchy, there can be multiple levels of OUs</span><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:blue'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:blue'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:blue'>For example, for the Ministry of Finance, the Distinguish Name (DN) in the DIT will be:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:blue'>C=TW,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:blue'>O=</span><span style='font-family:"新細明體","serif";color:blue'>行政院</span><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:blue'> (i.e., "Executive Yuan" if written in Chinese)<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:blue'>OU=</span><span style='font-family:"新細明體","serif";color:blue'>財政部</span><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:blue'> (i.e., "Ministry of Finance" if written in Chinese)<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:blue'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:blue'>This is according to the Article 2 and Article 3 of the Organizational Act of the Executive Yuan:<o:p></o:p></span></p><table class=MsoNormalTable border=0 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=0 width="80%" style='width:80.0%;background:white;border-collapse:collapse;outline: 0px;border-spacing: 0px'><tr style='outline: 0px'><td width="12%" nowrap valign=top style='width:12.0%;border:none;border-bottom:dotted #3F67A5 1.0pt;padding:2.25pt 7.5pt 2.25pt 7.5pt;border-top-style:initial;border-right-style:initial;border-left-style:initial;border-top-color:initial;border-right-color:initial;border-left-color:initial;border-image: initial;outline: 0px'><p class=MsoNormal style='line-height:15.75pt'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:blue'>Article 2</span><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:blue'><o:p></o:p></span></p></td><td width="2%" valign=top style='width:2.0%;border:none;border-bottom:dotted #3F67A5 1.0pt;padding:2.25pt 7.5pt 2.25pt 7.5pt;border-top-style:initial;border-right-style:initial;border-left-style:initial;border-top-color:initial;border-right-color:initial;border-left-color:initial;border-image: initial;outline: 0px'><p class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center;line-height:15.75pt'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:blue'> </span><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:blue'><o:p></o:p></span></p></td><td width="86%" valign=top style='width:86.0%;border:none;border-bottom:dotted #3F67A5 1.0pt;padding:2.25pt 7.5pt 2.25pt 7.5pt;border-top-style:initial;border-right-style:initial;border-left-style:initial;border-top-color:initial;border-right-color:initial;border-left-color:initial;border-image: initial;outline: 0px'><p class=MsoNormal style='line-height:15.75pt'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:blue'>The Executive Yuan shall exercise the powers granted by the Constitutional Law.</span><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:blue'><o:p></o:p></span></p></td></tr><tr style='outline: 0px'><td width="12%" nowrap valign=top style='width:12.0%;border:none;border-bottom:dotted #3F67A5 1.0pt;padding:2.25pt 7.5pt 2.25pt 7.5pt;border-top-style:initial;border-right-style:initial;border-left-style:initial;border-top-color:initial;border-right-color:initial;border-left-color:initial;border-image: initial;outline: 0px'><p class=MsoNormal style='line-height:15.75pt'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:blue'>Article 3</span><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:blue'><o:p></o:p></span></p></td><td width="2%" valign=top style='width:2.0%;border:none;border-bottom:dotted #3F67A5 1.0pt;padding:2.25pt 7.5pt 2.25pt 7.5pt;border-top-style:initial;border-right-style:initial;border-left-style:initial;border-top-color:initial;border-right-color:initial;border-left-color:initial;border-image: initial;outline: 0px'><p class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center;line-height:15.75pt'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:blue'> </span><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:blue'><o:p></o:p></span></p></td><td width="86%" valign=top style='width:86.0%;border:none;border-bottom:dotted #3F67A5 1.0pt;padding:2.25pt 7.5pt 2.25pt 7.5pt;border-top-style:initial;border-right-style:initial;border-left-style:initial;border-top-color:initial;border-right-color:initial;border-left-color:initial;border-image: initial;outline: 0px'><p class=MsoNormal style='line-height:15.75pt'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:blue'>The Executive Yuan establishes the Ministries as follows:<br>(1)Ministry of the Interior;<br>(2)Ministry of Foreign Affairs;<br>(3)Ministry of National Defense;<br>(4)Ministry of Finance;<br>(5)Ministry of Education;<br>(6)Ministry of Justice;<br>(7)Ministry of Economic and Energy Affairs;<br>(8)Ministry of Transportation and Construction;<br>(9)Ministry of Labor;<br>(10)Ministry of Agriculture;<br>(11)Ministry of Health and Welfare;<br>(12)Ministry of Environment and Natural Resources;<br>(13)Ministry of Culture; and<br>(14)Ministry of Science and Technology.</span><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:blue'><o:p></o:p></span></p></td></tr></table><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:blue'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:blue;background:white'>For local government agencies/units, the name form is:</span><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:blue'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:blue'>C=TW,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:blue'>L=the official name of the City or County<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:blue'>L=the official name of the District, C</span><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:blue;background:white'>ounty-administered City, </span><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:blue'>or Township under the City or County (Optional, only for the government agencies at the District, C</span><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:blue;background:white'>ounty-administered City, </span><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:blue'>or Township level)<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:blue'>O=</span><span style='font-family:"新細明體","serif";color:blue'>市政府</span><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:blue'> or </span><span style='font-family:"新細明體","serif";color:blue'>縣政府</span><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:blue'> (i.e., "City Government" or "County Government" if written in Chinese)<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:blue;background:white'>OU= </span><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:blue'>the official name of the agencies/units</span><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:blue;background:white'> as specified in the Self-Government Ordinances </span><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:blue'>of the city government or county government<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:blue'>OU= the official name of the subordinate agency or unit under the agency/unit</span><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:blue;background:white'> as specified in the </span><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:blue'>Self-Government Regulation</span><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:blue;background:white'> of </span><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:blue'>the agency/unit<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:blue;background:white'>OU=......Since the local government organization is a hierarchy, there can be multiple levels of OUs</span><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:blue'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:blue'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:blue'>For example, for the Department of Finance of the Taipei City Government, the Distinguish Name (DN) in the DIT will be:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:blue'>C=TW,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:blue'>L=</span><span style='font-family:"新細明體","serif";color:blue'>臺北市</span><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:blue'> (i.e., "Taipei City" if written in Chinese)<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:blue'>O=</span><span style='font-family:"新細明體","serif";color:blue'>市政府</span><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:blue'> (i.e., "City Government" if written in Chinese)<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:blue'>OU=</span><span style='font-family:"新細明體","serif";color:blue'>財政局</span><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:blue'> (i.e., "Department of Finance" if written in Chinese)<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:blue'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:blue'>If you are interested in the DIT hierarchy of our Government PKI, you can visit the following web page. 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