<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><br class=""><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Mar 3, 2017, at 12:56 AM, Gervase Markham <<a href="mailto:gerv@mozilla.org" class="">gerv@mozilla.org</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div class="">On 03/03/17 03:29, Peter Bowen via Public wrote:<br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">Others: Does this make the issue clearer?<br class=""></blockquote><br class="">It does. Deciding whether to make an exception or not might be easier if<br class="">we were to review the rationale for the BRs's rules in this area. Is it<br class="">simply to avoid trivial names which clash? Or is there more to it than that?</div></div></blockquote><br class=""></div><div>I wasn’t involved with the Forum when the BRs were written, but I always have assumed they were intended to be similar to the rules for labelling food in the US:</div><div><br class=""></div><blockquote style="margin: 0 0 0 40px; border: none; padding: 0px;" class=""><div><h2 style="margin-top: 10pt; margin-bottom: 5pt; font-size: 13px; margin-left: 0em; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-variant-ligatures: normal; orphans: 2; widows: 2; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" class="">21 CFR §101.5 Food; name and place of business of manufacturer, packer, or distributor.</h2></div><div><p style="font-variant-ligatures: normal; text-indent: 2em; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; orphans: 2; widows: 2; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" class="">(a) The label of a food in packaged form shall specify conspicuously the name and place of business of the manufacturer, packer, or distributor.</p></div><div><p style="font-variant-ligatures: normal; text-indent: 2em; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; orphans: 2; widows: 2; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" class="">(b) The requirement for declaration of the name of the manufacturer, packer, or distributor shall be deemed to be satisfied, in the case of a corporation, only by the actual corporate name, which may be preceded or followed by the name of the particular division of the corporation. In the case of an individual, partnership, or association, the name under which the business is conducted shall be used.</p></div><div><p style="font-variant-ligatures: normal; text-indent: 2em; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; orphans: 2; widows: 2; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" class="">(c) Where the food is not manufactured by the person whose name appears on the label, the name shall be qualified by a phrase that reveals the connection such person has with such food; such as “Manufactured for ___”, “Distributed by ___”, or any other wording that expresses the facts.</p></div><div><p style="font-variant-ligatures: normal; text-indent: 2em; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; orphans: 2; widows: 2; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" class="">(d) The statement of the place of business shall include the street address, city, State, and <i class="">[postal]</i> code; however, the street address may be omitted if it is shown in a current city directory or telephone directory. The requirement for inclusion of the <i class="">[postal]</i> code shall apply only to consumer commodity labels developed or revised after the effective date of this section. In the case of nonconsumer packages, the <i class="">[postal]</i> code shall appear either on the label or the labeling (including invoice).</p></div><div><p style="font-variant-ligatures: normal; text-indent: 2em; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; orphans: 2; widows: 2; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" class="">(e) If a person manufactures, packs, or distributes a food at a place other than his principal place of business, the label may state the principal place of business in lieu of the actual place where such food was manufactured or packed or is to be distributed, unless such statement would be misleading.</p></div></blockquote><div><div class="">(“ZIP" replaced with "<i style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; orphans: 2; text-indent: 26px; widows: 2; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" class="">[postal]"</i><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; orphans: 2; text-indent: 26px; widows: 2; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" class=""> in the quoted regulation)</span></div><div class=""><span style="orphans: 2; text-indent: 26px; widows: 2; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" class=""><font face="Arial, sans-serif" size="2" class=""><br class=""></font></span></div><div class=""><span style="orphans: 2; text-indent: 26px; widows: 2; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" class=""><font face="Arial, sans-serif" size="2" class="">It is clear that the intent here is to allow someone with a food product to identify the contact details for a company or person responsible for the product. The specific street address is not needed where one can find it from a telephone directory; this makes sense in the US, as telephone directories contain not only telephone numbers but also street addresses.</font></span></div><div class=""><span style="orphans: 2; text-indent: 26px; widows: 2; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" class=""><font face="Arial, sans-serif" size="2" class=""><br class=""></font></span></div><div class=""><span style="orphans: 2; text-indent: 26px; widows: 2; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" class=""><font face="Arial, sans-serif" size="2" class="">This looks pretty much like what we require in certificates; the corporate name, or name under which the business is conducted (i.e. DBA), along with the city, state, and country. I assume the intent was to allow someone accessing a website to find the company behind the site.</font></span></div><div class=""><span style="orphans: 2; text-indent: 26px; widows: 2; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" class=""><font face="Arial, sans-serif" size="2" class=""><br class=""></font></span></div><div class=""><span style="orphans: 2; text-indent: 26px; widows: 2; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" class=""><font face="Arial, sans-serif" size="2" class="">Thanks,</font></span></div><div class=""><span style="orphans: 2; text-indent: 26px; widows: 2; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" class=""><font face="Arial, sans-serif" size="2" class="">Peter</font></span></div><div style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; font-variant-ligatures: normal; orphans: 2; widows: 2; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" class=""></div></div></body></html>