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<br class=""><div><div class="">On Jan 8, 2017, at 4:18 PM, Kirk Hall <<a href="mailto:Kirk.Hall@entrustdatacard.com" class="">Kirk.Hall@entrustdatacard.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div class="WordSection1" style="page: WordSection1; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; widows: auto;"><div style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; font-size: 12pt; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Virginia – here are some preliminary comments. I think Ballot 183 is in such good shape it would make sense to move it to the Public list now. Here are some preliminary comments, which I will repost to the Public list once Ballot 183 is posted there.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; font-size: 12pt; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div><div style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; font-size: 12pt; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">I should point out to other members that this ballot proposes an entirely<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><i class=""><u class="">new</u></i><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>voting Bylaw (Bylaw 2.3) that supplements our existing voting Bylaw (Bylaw 2.2) but does not change it. If this ballot is adopted, our existing Bylaw 2.2 will continue to be the voting procedure for new ballots that do not change the BRs, EVGL, etc. – so we will use Bylaw 2.2 on ballots that amend the Bylaws, elect officers, etc. <o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; font-size: 12pt; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div><div style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; font-size: 12pt; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">New Bylaw 2.3 (in the draft Ballot 183) will be used for ballots that amend the BRs, EVGL, etc. (known as “Maintenance Guidelines” in our IPR Policy) and for ballots that propose entirely new sets of guidelines or requirements (known as “Final Guidelines” in our IPR Policy). Those types of ballots require an IP Review Period, possible Exclusion Notices, etc., and so this new Bylaw 2.3 creates clear voting rules for how we handle that. You will notice that many of the provisions in Bylaw 2.2 are repeated in Bylaw 2.3, but Bylaw 2.3 includes new provisions relevant to ballots that are subject to an IP review period, etc., especially subsections (i) through (l), and are intended to harmonize with the IPR Policy we all have signed.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; font-size: 12pt; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div><div style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; font-size: 12pt; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">In subsection c - is there an unneeded quotation mark at the end of the third sentence?<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; font-size: 12pt; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><br class=""></span></div><div style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; font-size: 12pt; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><font color="#006d8f" class="">VMF: Yes, I’ve removed it.</font></span></div><div style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; font-size: 12pt; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div><div style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; font-size: 12pt; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">In subsection e - maybe change “7-day” to “seven-day” for consistency.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; font-size: 12pt; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><br class=""></span></div><div style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; font-size: 12pt; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><font color="#006d8f" class="">VMF: done.</font></span></div><div style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; font-size: 12pt; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div><div style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; font-size: 12pt; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">In subsection j - I realize that the IPR Policy only requires Members to send Exclusion Notices to the Chair. In this section the Chair must publish all Exclusion Notices received to the Public list<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><u class="">at the end of the Review Period</u>. However, Members might want to see what other Members are filing. Would the Chair be permitted to post Exclusion Notices received immediately to the Public list, and not wait until the end of the Review Period?<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; font-size: 12pt; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><br class=""></span></div><div style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; font-size: 12pt; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><font color="#006d8f" class="">VMF: I’ve added language that gives the Chair flexibility to disclose the Exclusion Notices sooner.</font></span></div><div style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; font-size: 12pt; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div><div style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; font-size: 12pt; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Subsection (k) as written seems to say that a ballot that is approved by vote does not become effective until after the end of the Review Period and only if no Exclusion Notices are filed during the Review Period (it says “</span><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(38, 38, 38);" class="">the results of the Initial Vote are deemed to be<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><u class="">final and approved</u>” at that point). Is that the intention? That’s probably the best result if we want to avoid confusion about the status of a ballot – CAs should wait for the end of the Review Period before relying on the ballot.</span><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; font-size: 12pt; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(38, 38, 38);" class=""><br class=""></span></div><div style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; font-size: 12pt; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><font color="#006d8f" class="">VMF: Right, because the vote is conditioned on there being no Exclusion Notices filed during the Review Period. When the Review Period closes without any Exclusion Notices being filed, then that condition is lifted and the vote is “final and approved." </font></span></div><div style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; font-size: 12pt; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div><div style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; font-size: 12pt; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Subsection (l)(i) includes a slight ambiguity, to my thinking. It says the following:<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; font-size: 12pt; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; font-size: 12pt; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt 0.5in;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(38, 38, 38);" class="">(l) If Exclusion Notice(s) are filed during the Review Period ***<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; font-size: 12pt; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt 0.5in;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(38, 38, 38);" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div><div style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; font-size: 12pt; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt 1in;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(38, 38, 38);" class="">(i) a Patent Advisory Group (PAG) will be formed, in accordance with Section 7 of the IPR Policy, to address the conflict. <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><u class="">The PAG will make a conclusion</u><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>as described in Section 7.3.2 of the IPR Policy, and communicate such conclusion to the rest of the Forum, using the Member Mail List and the Public Mail List. <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><u class="">The proposer and endorsers of the Draft Guideline Ballot will then decide how to proceed, including whether to proceed with the Draft Guideline Ballot</u><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>***<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; font-size: 12pt; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt 0.5in;" class=""><span style="color: rgb(38, 38, 38);" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div><div style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; font-size: 12pt; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">What if the PAG’s conclusion is “do not adopt this ballot / guideline because of IP issues”? Under the language above, could the proposer and endorser say “We don’t care what the PAG thinks, we are going to call for a revote of our ballot as written”? </span></div><div style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; font-size: 12pt; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"><br class=""></span></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;" class=""><span class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"><font face="Calibri, sans-serif" color="#006d8f" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt;" class="">VMF: I</span><span style="font-size: 15px;" class="">’</span><span style="font-size: 11pt;" class="">ve added language to address this. Basically, if the promoter and endorsers want to go forward anyway, they</span><span style="font-size: 15px;" class="">’</span><span style="font-size: 11pt;" class="">d have to start with a new ballot and include the PAG report in the ballot so all members would be aware of it. </span></font></span></span><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 11pt; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; font-size: 12pt; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div><div style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; font-size: 12pt; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">You list an alternative course of action in subsection (l)(ii) “***<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(38, 38, 38);" class="">if the PAG<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><u class="">recommends approval<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></u>despite the Exclusion Notices, and if the proposer and endorsers decide to proceed ***.” That seems pretty clear, but that only addresses the case where the PAG recommends approval. Can we clarify what happens procedurally if the PAG recommends some outcome<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><i class=""><u class="">other than</u></i><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>“approval”? <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; font-size: 12pt; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(38, 38, 38);" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div><div style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; font-size: 12pt; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(38, 38, 38);" class="">Maybe<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><u class="">delete</u><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>the last sentence of (l)(i), and then<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><u class="">amend</u><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>the first sentence of (l)(ii) to read as follows (to address all possible cases after the PAG provides its conclusion):<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; font-size: 12pt; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;" class=""><span style="color: rgb(38, 38, 38);" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div><div style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; font-size: 12pt; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt 0.5in;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(38, 38, 38);" class="">(ii)<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><b class=""><u class="">after the PAG has provided its conclusion,</u></b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><i class=""><s class="">if the PAG recommends approval despite the Exclusion Notices, and</s></i><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>if the proposer and endorsers decide to proceed, then: *** [all the same procedures you listed].</span></div><div style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; font-size: 12pt; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div><div style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; font-size: 12pt; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><font color="#006d8f" class="">VMF: Ok, I’ve modified it. Also note that under section 7.3.2.a of the IPR Policy, the PAG can dismiss an issue if they’ve already addressed it - so they don’t have to keep analyzing the same Exclusion Notices endlessly.</font></span></div><div style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; font-size: 12pt; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><br class=""></span></div><div style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; font-size: 12pt; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">I think this would not result in an endless cycle of Review Periods and PAGs – for example, if the PAG conclusion says “don’t adopt this ballot because of IP conflicts” and the proponent and endorsers decide to put the ballot up to a vote anyway (maybe with minor edits), the vote would be up-or-down – but no new Review Period required. If the PAG says “adopt this ballot – it’s fine” then the same result – proceed to a revote without another Review Period. However, if the PAG says “adopt but only if big changes are made as follows”, then the proponent and endorsers would have to redraft a new ballot and it would go through full IP review again.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; font-size: 12pt; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div><div style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; font-size: 12pt; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Again, I think this draft is ready for the Public list, so I suggest you post it there, and I will repost these suggestions. <o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; font-size: 12pt; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div><div style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; font-size: 12pt; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Thanks to you, Chris, and others for all your hard work.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; font-size: 12pt; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div><div class="" style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;"><div style="border-style: solid none none; border-top-color: rgb(225, 225, 225); border-top-width: 1pt; padding: 3pt 0in 0in;" class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><b class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">From:</span></b><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Management [<a href="mailto:management-bounces@cabforum.org" class="">mailto:management-bounces@cabforum.org</a>]<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><b class="">On Behalf Of<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Virginia Fournier<br class=""><b class="">Sent:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Thursday, January 5, 2017 5:46 PM<br class=""><b class="">To:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>'<a href="mailto:management@cabforum.org" class="">management@cabforum.org</a>' (<a href="mailto:management@cabforum.org" class="">management@cabforum.org</a>) <<a href="mailto:management@cabforum.org" class="">management@cabforum.org</a>><br class=""><b class="">Subject:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>[cabfman] Proposed Ballot 183 (Ballot process)<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div></div><div style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; font-size: 12pt; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; font-size: 12pt; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;" class="">Hello all,<o:p class=""></o:p></div><div class="" style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;"><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div></div><div class="" style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;"><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class="">Per our discussion on the call this morning, attached are a draft Ballot 183 (to update the voting/exclusion process for Ballots relating to Draft Guidelines), and a diagram to illustrate the flow of the process described in the draft Ballot 183. I apologize that the diagram wasn’t created using some fancy computer app.<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class="" style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;"><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div></div><div class="" style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;"><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class="">This Ballot includes significant contributions from Chris Nalevanko at Amazon, and incorporates the sequence of events proposed by Ryan and Gerv (voting before 30/60 day review period).<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class="" style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;"><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div></div><div class="" style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;"><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class="">Please let me know any comments/questions you may have. When providing comments, please be specific. We plan to start the official 7-day discussion period for this Ballot next week. <o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class="" style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;"><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div></div><div class="" style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;"><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div></div></div><span id="cid:15D6912F40538840B78B9A8328E81160@entrustdatacard.com"><CABF_Ballot183_010517.docx></span><span id="cid:87576B0795EAF9438716782FBCA69CDA@entrustdatacard.com"><Process_flow_diagram.pdf></span><div class="" style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;"><div class=""><div class="" style="letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;"></div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"></div><br class=""></div><span style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">_______________________________________________</span><br style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><span style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">Management mailing list</span><br style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><span style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: none; display: inline !important;" class=""><a href="mailto:Management@cabforum.org" class="">Management@cabforum.org</a></span><br style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><span style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: none; display: inline !important;" class=""><a href="https://cabforum.org/mailman/listinfo/management" class="">https://cabforum.org/mailman/listinfo/management</a></span></div></div><br class=""></div></body></html>