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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body bgcolor=white lang=EN-GB link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>That is certainly true in some Member States (UK included) but is doesn’t alter fact that eIDAS came into force on 1<sup>st</sup> July 2016 and any Conformity Assessment Report submitted after that date would have to demonstrate compliance with the eIDAS regulation – and the old ETSI TS are not sufficient for that purpose.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>However, I believe that some MS have produced their Supervisory Body requirements (e.g. LU, MT & SE) and there are also some very detailed guidelines being drafted by ENISA that can be viewed at <a href="https://www.enisa.europa.eu/topics/trust-services/guidelines/">https://www.enisa.europa.eu/topics/trust-services/guidelines/</a><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Cheers<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Richard<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>------------------------------------<br>Richard Trevorah<br>Technical Manager<br>tScheme Limited<br><br>M: +44 (0) 781 809 4728<br>F: +44 (0) 870 005 6311<br><br></span><span style='color:#1F497D'><a href="http://www.tscheme.org" target="_blank">http://www.tscheme.org</a><br></span>------------------------------------<br><br>The information in this message and, if present, any attachments are intended solely for the attention and use of the named addressee(s). The content of this e-mail and its attachments is confidential and may be legally privileged. Unless otherwise stated, any use or disclosure is unauthorised and may be unlawful.<br><br>If you are not the intended recipient, please delete the message and any attachments and notify the sender as soon as practicable<span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext'> Moudrick M. Dadashov [mailto:md@ssc.lt] <br><b>Sent:</b> 28 November 2016 23:33<br><b>To:</b> tScheme Technical Manager; 'CA/Browser Forum Public Discussion List'<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [cabfpub] When to stop accepting old ETSI audits?<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='font-family:"Cambria","serif"'>Indeed, Richard, but unfortunately what used to be a single step (audit) now needs two steps - the TSPs need to meet also the [non-existing] supervisor requirements.<br><br>Thanks,<br>M.D. </span><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>On 11/29/2016 1:05 AM, tScheme Technical Manager wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Technically, eIDAS gave July 2016 as the cutoff but allowed one year for transition. However, it states that any audits after July 2016 must use new requirements.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Cheers</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Richard</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>------------------------------------<br>Richard Trevorah<br>Technical Manager<br>tScheme Limited<br><br>M: +44 (0) 781 809 4728<br>F: +44 (0) 870 005 6311<br><br></span><span style='color:#1F497D'><a href="http://www.tscheme.org" target="_blank">http://www.tscheme.org</a><br></span>------------------------------------<br><br>The information in this message and, if present, any attachments are intended solely for the attention and use of the named addressee(s). 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Unless otherwise stated, any use or disclosure is unauthorised and may be unlawful.<br><br>If you are not the intended recipient, please delete the message and any attachments and notify the sender as soon as practicable<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext'> Public [<a href="mailto:public-bounces@cabforum.org">mailto:public-bounces@cabforum.org</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Moudrick M. Dadashov via Public<br><b>Sent:</b> 28 November 2016 22:59<br><b>To:</b> CA/Browser Forum Public Discussion List<br><b>Cc:</b> Moudrick M. Dadashov<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [cabfpub] When to stop accepting old ETSI audits?</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='font-family:"Cambria","serif"'>Yes, July 2017 is reasonable - the new ones require extra bureaucracy with the supervisors.<br><br>Thanks,<br>M.D. </span><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>On 11/28/2016 3:44 PM, Gervase Markham via Public wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><pre>Dear CAB Forum members,<o:p></o:p></pre><pre> <o:p></o:p></pre><pre>Ballot 171, passed on 1st July 2016, updated the BRs to remove the old<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>ETSI criteria (ETSI TS 101 456 V1.4.3 or ETSI TS 102 042 V2.3.1) and add<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>the new ones (ETSI EN 319 411-1 v1.1.1 or ETSI EN 319 411-2 v2.1.1).<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>This change was made in BRs v.1.3.6. However, no dates were associated<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>with the change.<o:p></o:p></pre><pre> <o:p></o:p></pre><pre>Mozilla CA Policy 2.3 (about to be published) permits either set of<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>criteria to be used.<o:p></o:p></pre><pre> <o:p></o:p></pre><pre>By what date would it be reasonable for Mozilla to require that all new<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>ETSI audits use the new criteria?<o:p></o:p></pre><pre> <o:p></o:p></pre><pre>Inigo says that eIDAS (which, of course, refers only to the issuance of<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>Qualified certificates) have specified July 2017 as the end date for the<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>old criteria. Would that be a reasonable choice?<o:p></o:p></pre><pre> <o:p></o:p></pre><pre>Gerv<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>_______________________________________________<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>Public mailing list<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><a href="mailto:Public@cabforum.org">Public@cabforum.org</a><o:p></o:p></pre><pre><a href="https://cabforum.org/mailman/listinfo/public">https://cabforum.org/mailman/listinfo/public</a><o:p></o:p></pre></blockquote><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></body></html>