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    I agree as well.<br>
    <br>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 9/21/2016 10:16 AM, Jeremy Rowley
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      <div>I agree with this approach. Option 7 was the "any other
        method". Now that the validation methods are a finite list, we
        need to amend the ev guidelines to remove the old restriction as
        no longer relevant.</div>
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        On Sep 21, 2016, at 4:59 PM, Doug Beattie <<a
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          href="mailto:doug.beattie@globalsign.com">doug.beattie@globalsign.com</a>>
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            <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
            <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">As
                discussed below, the list of support domain validation
                methods for EV issuance is confused, and actually
                wrong.  It says any method in section 3.2.2.4 can be
                used except 3.2.2.4(7), which means methods 8, 9, and 10
                ARE currently valid options (well, not 8 because EV does
                not support IP addresses). In summary, the way the BRs
                and EVGLs are written:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"><span
                  style="mso-list:Ignore">-<span style="font:7.0pt
                    "Times New Roman"">         
                  </span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Options
                1-6, 8-10 are allowed for EV issuance<o:p></o:p></span></p>
            <p class="MsoListParagraph"
              style="text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1"><!--[if !supportLists]--><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"><span
                  style="mso-list:Ignore">-<span style="font:7.0pt
                    "Times New Roman"">         
                  </span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Option
                7 (DNS) is NOT permitted<o:p></o:p></span></p>
            <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
            <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">This
                was not the intent – the intent was all methods in
                3.2.2.4 should be supported for EV, but this was not
                discussed nor was any security analysis performed to
                determine if these posed any risks for EV issuance.  <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
            <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">I
                agree with Kirk’s recommendation on the change:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
            <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
            <p class="MsoNormal"
              style="margin-left:.5in;text-autospace:none"><span
                style="font-size:9.5pt;font-family:TimesNewRomanPSMT">EVGL
                11.7.1(1) For each Fully-Qualified Domain Name listed in
                a Certificate, other than a Domain Name with .onion in
                the rightmost label of the Domain Name, the CA SHALL
                confirm that, as of the date the Certificate was issued,
                the Applicant (or the Applicant’s Parent Company,
                Subsidiary Company, or Affiliate, collectively referred
                to as “Applicant” for the purposes of this section)
                either is the Domain Name Registrant or has control over
                the FQDN using a procedure specified in Section 3.2.2.4
                of the Baseline Requirements<s>, except that a CA MAY
                  NOT verify a domain using the procedure described
                  subsection 3.2.2.4(7)</s>. For a Certificate issued to
                a Domain Name with .onion in the right-most label of the
                Domain Name, the CA SHALL confirm that, as of the date
                the Certificate was issued, the Applicant’s control over
                the .onion Domain Name in accordance with Appendix F.</span><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
            <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
            <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">I’m
                being asked for guidance within the company and I’m sure
                other CAs are in the same situation.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
            <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
            <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Does
                anyone have a concern with this approach as a pre-pre
                ballot?  If not, the Validation working group can put
                forth a ballot.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
            <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
            <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Doug<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
            <p class="MsoNormal"><a moz-do-not-send="true"
                name="_MailEndCompose"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></a></p>
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                <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
                      style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> <a
                      moz-do-not-send="true"
                      href="mailto:public-bounces@cabforum.org">public-bounces@cabforum.org</a>
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                    <b>On Behalf Of </b>Kirk Hall<br>
                    <b>Sent:</b> Monday, September 19, 2016 8:18 PM<br>
                    <b>To:</b> CABFPub<br>
                    <b>Subject:</b> Re: [cabfpub] Ballot 169 problem
                    report<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
            <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Erwann,
                you are correct that we need to change EVGL 11.7.1, and
                at different times the Validation Working Group
                discussed that.  But it never made it into Ballot 169.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
            <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
            <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">The
                intention was that after we removed the “any other
                method” of old BR 3.2.2.4 (which we did by Ballot 169),
                then all of the domain validation methods could be used
                for EV certificates, including methods (7) through
                (10).  So I think the better correction of EVGL
                11.7.1(1) would be simply to remove the words “***,
                except that a CA MAY NOT verify a domain using the
                procedure described subsection 3.2.2.4(7)”.   We may
                need to make other modifications as well.  I think this
                issue should go back to the (revived) Validation Working
                Group.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
            <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
            <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Here
                is how the amended EVGL 11.7.1(1) would read:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
            <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
            <p class="MsoNormal"
              style="margin-left:.5in;text-autospace:none"><span
                style="font-size:9.5pt;font-family:TimesNewRomanPSMT">EVGL
                11.7.1(1) For each Fully-Qualified Domain Name listed in
                a Certificate, other than a Domain Name with .onion in
                the rightmost label of the Domain Name, the CA SHALL
                confirm that, as of the date the Certificate was issued,
                the Applicant (or the Applicant’s Parent Company,
                Subsidiary Company, or Affiliate, collectively referred
                to as “Applicant” for the purposes of this section)
                either is the Domain Name Registrant or has control over
                the FQDN using a procedure specified in Section 3.2.2.4
                of the Baseline Requirements<s>, except that a CA MAY
                  NOT verify a domain using the procedure described
                  subsection 3.2.2.4(7)</s>. For a Certificate issued to
                a Domain Name with .onion in the right-most label of the
                Domain Name, the CA SHALL confirm that, as of the date
                the Certificate was issued, the Applicant’s control over
                the .onion Domain Name in accordance with Appendix F.</span><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
            <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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                <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
                      style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> <a
                      moz-do-not-send="true"
                      href="mailto:public-bounces@cabforum.org">public-bounces@cabforum.org</a>
                    [<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                      href="mailto:public-bounces@cabforum.org">mailto:public-bounces@cabforum.org</a>]
                    <b>On Behalf Of </b>Erwann Abalea<br>
                    <b>Sent:</b> Monday, September 19, 2016 7:05 AM<br>
                    <b>To:</b> Robin Alden <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                      href="mailto:robin@comodo.com">robin@comodo.com</a>>;
                    CABFPub <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                      href="mailto:public@cabforum.org">public@cabforum.org</a>><br>
                    <b>Subject:</b> Re: [cabfpub] Ballot 169 problem
                    report<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
            <p class="MsoNormal">Bonjour, <o:p></o:p></p>
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              <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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              <p class="MsoNormal">The modification of section 3.2.2.4
                has consequences on EVG section 11.7.1.<o:p></o:p></p>
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              <p class="MsoNormal">EVG section 11.7.1 says:<o:p></o:p></p>
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style="margin-left:30.0pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:5.0pt">
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                <p class="MsoNormal">(1) […] using a procedure specified
                  in Section 3.2.2.4 of the Baseline Requirements,
                  except that a CA MAY NOT verify a domain using the
                  procedure described subsection 3.2.2.4(7). […]<o:p></o:p></p>
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              <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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              <p class="MsoNormal">Due to this rewriting of BR 3.2.2.4,
                I guess this Section 11.7.1 of EVG should be changed to:<o:p></o:p></p>
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            <blockquote
style="margin-left:30.0pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:5.0pt">
              <div>
                <p class="MsoNormal">« […] a CA MAY NOT verify a domain
                  using the procedures described subsection 3.2.2.4.7,
                  3.2.2.4.8, 3.2.2.4.9, and 3.2.2.4.10. »<o:p></o:p></p>
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              <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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                  <p class="MsoNormal">Cordialement,<o:p></o:p></p>
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                  <p class="MsoNormal">Erwann Abalea<o:p></o:p></p>
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              <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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                    <p class="MsoNormal">Le 7 sept. 2016 à 15:37, Robin
                      Alden <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                        href="mailto:robin@comodo.com">robin@comodo.com</a>>
                      a écrit :<o:p></o:p></p>
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                  <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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                      <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                          style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Ballot
                          169 – “Revised Validation Requirements”
                          introduced text into section 3.2.2.4 which
                          refers to section 3.3.1.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                      <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                          style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                      <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                          style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">“3.2.2.4<span
                            class="apple-converted-space"> </span><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                      <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                          style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">…<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                      <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                          style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Completed
                          confirmations of Applicant authority may be
                          valid for the issuance of multiple
                          certificates over time. In all cases, the
                          confirmation must have been initiated within
                          the time period specified in the relevant
                          requirement (<span style="background:yellow">such
                            as Section 3.3.1 of this document</span>)
                          prior to certificate issuance. For purposes of
                          domain validation, the term Applicant includes
                          the Applicant's Parent Company, Subsidiary
                          Company, or Affiliate.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                      <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                          style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">…“<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                      <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                          style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                      <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                          style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Section
                          3.3.1 of the BRs now consists only of the
                          section heading, with no body text.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                      <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                          style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">“3.3.1.
                          Identification and Authentication for Routine
                          Re‐key”<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                      <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                          style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                      <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                          style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">The
                          text which was at 3.3.1 in the guidelines when
                          we started working on what became ballot 169
                          read:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                    <div style="margin-left:.5in">
                      <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                          style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Section
                          6.3.2 limits the validity period of Subscriber
                          Certificates. The CA MAY use the documents and
                          data<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                    <div style="margin-left:.5in">
                      <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                          style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">provided
                          in Section 3.2 to verify certificate
                          information, provided that the CA obtained the
                          data or document<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                    <div style="margin-left:.5in">
                      <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                          style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">from
                          a source specified under Section 3.2 no more
                          than thirty‐nine (39) months prior to issuing
                          the<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                    <div style="margin-left:.5in">
                      <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                          style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Certificate.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
                    </div>
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                      <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                          style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">(taken
                          from version 1.3.0 of the BRs)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
                    </div>
                    <div>
                      <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                          style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
                    </div>
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                      <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                          style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">That
                          text now appears as the third paragraph of
                          4.2.1 (Performing Identification and
                          Authentication Functions)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
                    </div>
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                      <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                          style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
                    </div>
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                      <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                          style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Should
                          we move that text back into 3.3.1, or should
                          we change 3.2.2.4 so that the reference points
                          to 4.2.1 instead of pointing to 3.3.1?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                      <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                          style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                      <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                          style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Regards<br>
                          Robin Alden<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                      <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                          style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Comodo<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                      <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                          style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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