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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=ZH-TW link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>We like option 3 – both choices, too.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='text-indent:24.0pt'><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Li-Chun CHEN</span><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> public-bounces@cabforum.org [mailto:public-bounces@cabforum.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Kirk Hall<br><b>Sent:</b> Friday, August 26, 2016 8:07 AM<br><b>To:</b> 'Ben Wilson'; 'CABFPub'<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [cabfpub] Suggestion to amend BR Section7.1.4.2.2d/e RE: EV Gudelines section 9.2.5 & X.520<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>I like option 3 – both choices<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> <a href="mailto:public-bounces@cabforum.org">public-bounces@cabforum.org</a> [<a href="mailto:public-bounces@cabforum.org">mailto:public-bounces@cabforum.org</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Ben Wilson<br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, August 25, 2016 11:53 AM<br><b>To:</b> 'CABFPub' <<a href="mailto:public@cabforum.org">public@cabforum.org</a>><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [cabfpub] Suggestion to amend BR Section7.1.4.2.2d/e RE: EV Gudelines section 9.2.5 & X.520<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>All,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>This topic was discussed again today in the Policy Review Working Group.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Can we move this discussion toward a solution that works for Taiwanese entities? Here are a couple of suggestions:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>1 – exception based on government registry of unique names (e.g. an enumerated list of countries/jurisdictions/territories with centralized registries that ensure that an organization name is unique in the entire country/jurisdiction)<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>2 – exception based on geographic size (e.g. an enumerated list of countries/jurisdictions/territories where the geographic area specified by the subject:countryName field is below a threshold, for example, less than 200,000 sq. km.)<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>3 – either of the above (both as options)<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>4 – neither of the above (no change)<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Are there other suggestions? Should we have a straw poll to see which one is favored before we draw up a ballot?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Ben<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><a name="_MailEndCompose"></a><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> </span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"MS Gothic"'>陳立群</span><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> [<a href="mailto:realsky@cht.com.tw">mailto:realsky@cht.com.tw</a>] <br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, August 18, 2016 10:36 PM<br><b>To:</b> 'Kirk Hall' <<a href="mailto:Kirk.Hall@entrust.com">Kirk.Hall@entrust.com</a>>; Ben Wilson <<a href="mailto:ben.wilson@digicert.com">ben.wilson@digicert.com</a>>; 'Erwann Abalea' <<a href="mailto:Erwann.Abalea@docusign.com">Erwann.Abalea@docusign.com</a>><br><b>Cc:</b> 'CABFPub' <<a href="mailto:public@cabforum.org">public@cabforum.org</a>><br><b>Subject:</b> RE: [cabfpub] Suggestion to amend BR Section7.1.4.2.2d/e RE: EV Gudelines section 9.2.5 & X.520<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Thanks for Ben and Kirk. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>I also need comments about below two discussion.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><a href="https://cabforum.org/pipermail/public/2016-August/008224.html">https://cabforum.org/pipermail/public/2016-August/008224.html</a><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><a href="https://cabforum.org/pipermail/public/2016-August/008225.html">https://cabforum.org/pipermail/public/2016-August/008225.html</a><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> Li-Chun CHEN<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Kirk Hall [<a href="mailto:Kirk.Hall@entrust.com">mailto:Kirk.Hall@entrust.com</a>] <br><b>Sent:</b> Friday, August 19, 2016 5:27 AM<br><b>To:</b> 'Ben Wilson'; '</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>陳立群</span><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>'; 'Erwann Abalea'<br><b>Cc:</b> 'CABFPub'<br><b>Subject:</b> RE: [cabfpub] Suggestion to amend BR Section7.1.4.2.2d/e RE: EV Gudelines section 9.2.5 & X.520<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Thanks, Ben.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Just thinking this through, Canada allows corporations to be created at the federal level (and also, separately, at the provincial level, but no corporation would do both). So in theory Foobar Corp. could be a federal corporation in Canada, so the cert would show:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>O= Foobar Corp.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>L=<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>S=<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>C= CA<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Is that right?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>In Canada, I suspect that there could be a separate Foobar Corp. created and registered in the Province of Ontario (they would be unique corporations) – at least, it is possible in the US for all 50 states to incorporate separate Foobar Corps. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Initially, I thought that could be a problem for Li-Chun’s proposed amendment to BR 7.1.4.2.2 – but now I think his amendment could work. Here is how it is worded:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><i><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>[The localityName and stateOrProvinceName is optional when the subject:organizationName and subject:countryName fields are present if ]:</span></i><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>“(b) the country/jurisdiction specified by the subject:countryName field has a centralized registry t<span style='background:yellow;mso-highlight:yellow'>hat ensures that the organization name specified by the subject:organizationName field is unique in the entire country/jurisdiction</span>.”<span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Canada and the US do not have a centralized registry like that, so you could not omit the L or S field from organizations there. But if Taiwan DOES have a registry that ensures unique naming for an organization throughout Taiwan, and if any user could look up details of that unique corporation named in the cert with the central registry, then I think the L and S data safely could be omitted.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> <a href="mailto:public-bounces@cabforum.org">public-bounces@cabforum.org</a> [<a href="mailto:public-bounces@cabforum.org">mailto:public-bounces@cabforum.org</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Ben Wilson<br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, August 18, 2016 12:47 PM<br><b>To:</b> </span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"MS Gothic"'>陳立群</span><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> <<a href="mailto:realsky@cht.com.tw">realsky@cht.com.tw</a>>; 'Erwann Abalea' <<a href="mailto:Erwann.Abalea@docusign.com">Erwann.Abalea@docusign.com</a>><br><b>Cc:</b> 'CABFPub' <<a href="mailto:public@cabforum.org">public@cabforum.org</a>><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [cabfpub] Suggestion to amend BR Section7.1.4.2.2d/e RE: EV Gudelines section 9.2.5 & X.520<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Recirculating this because it came up briefly during today’s call. The current status is that Li-Chun requests an amendment to BR Section7.1.4.2.2d/e to make localityName and stateOrProvinceName optional when the subject:organizationName and subject:countryName fields are present if “(b) the country/jurisdiction specified by the subject:countryName field has a centralized registry that ensures that the organization name specified by the subject:organizationName field is unique in the entire country/jurisdiction.”<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> </span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"MS Gothic"'>陳立群</span><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> [<a href="mailto:realsky@cht.com.tw">mailto:realsky@cht.com.tw</a>] <br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, July 28, 2016 4:57 AM<br><b>To:</b> 'Erwann Abalea' <<a href="mailto:Erwann.Abalea@docusign.com">Erwann.Abalea@docusign.com</a>><br><b>Cc:</b> 'CABFPub' <<a href="mailto:public@cabforum.org">public@cabforum.org</a>>; Ben Wilson <<a href="mailto:ben.wilson@digicert.com">ben.wilson@digicert.com</a>><br><b>Subject:</b> RE: [cabfpub] Suggestion to amend BR Section7.1.4.2.2d/e RE: EV Gudelines section 9.2.5 & X.520<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'> </span><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:細明體'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:細明體'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='text-indent:12.0pt'><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:細明體'>1. In RFC 3739-</span><span lang=EN-US> </span><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:細明體'>Internet X.509 Public Key Infrastructure: Qualified Certificates Profile<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:細明體'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:細明體'>2.4.</span><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'> </span><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:細明體'> Uniqueness of names<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:細明體'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'> </span><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:細明體'> Distinguished name is originally defined in X.501 [X.501] as a</span><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'> </span><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:細明體'> representation of a directory name, defined as a construct that<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:細明體'>identifies a particular object from among a set of all objects.</span><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'> </span><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:細明體'> <span style='color:red'>The distinguished name MUST be unique for each subject entity certified by the one CA as defined by the issuer name field</span>, <span style='color:red'>for the whole life</span></span><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:red'> </span><span lang=EN-US style='color:red'> time of the CA.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'> </span><span lang=EN-US> <b><span style='color:red'>So it need not as you said that the erialNumber attribute in Subject Name should be shared among all CAs. <o:p></o:p></span></b></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'> </span><span lang=EN-US> But in previous discussion and meeting, we have find Peter</span>’<span lang=EN-US>s The UPU guidance may not be useful. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'> </span><span lang=EN-US> 2. You said why not change to use EV SSL certificate, but maybe some countries setup their government but they only want to issue OV SSL certificates. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='text-indent:18.0pt'><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'> </span><span lang=EN-US>The White House has mandated that all public-facing Web sites of the federal government must implement HTTPS within the next two years from last year. But you can see <a href="https://www.whitehouse.gov/">https://www.whitehouse.gov/</a>, it is an OV wild card SSL certificate installed. </span><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:細明體'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> 3. We only reflect a fact that Taiwan’s government has set up their GPKI’s certificates profile, rule for DN and DIT more than twelve years, and 2.16.886 you said are in Subject Directory Attribute, they are for government entities’ certificates’ applications, not for web SSL certificates. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> If our government changes their representation of Subject DN as current BR, they will confusion and conflict for government entities certificates such as associate private key stored in IC card.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='text-indent:12.0pt'><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Please see the proposed amend versions of BR Section7.1.4.2.2d/e by Ben or Wen-Cheng, again as below, just release the BR for small countries/jurisdictions, if they do not set up any state or province in their law or government entities. Or if the subject:organizationName and subject:countryName fields are present and the country/jurisdiction specified by the subject:countryName field has a centralized registry for that kind of organizations so that the organization name specified by the subject:organizationName field is "unique" in the entire country/jurisdiction. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='text-indent:12.0pt'><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>And to prevent that some CAs misplaced absence province or state name in subject name. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> The amended version will not affect other CAs that use current BR rule to interpret Subject DN.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> Or we can use the minimum set of Subject Name concept of ETSI’s legal or web SSL certificates profiles as Moudrick offered those documents. <u><a href="https://portal.etsi.org/TBSiteMap/ESI/ESIActivities.aspx">https://portal.etsi.org//TBSiteMap/ESI/ESIActivities.aspx</a></u> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:72.0pt;text-indent:-18.0pt'><span style='color:#1F497D'>–</span><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:7.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>ETSI EN 319 412-1 "Electronic Signatures and Infrastructures (ESI); Certificate Profiles; Part 1: Overview and common data structures".<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:72.0pt;text-indent:-18.0pt'><span style='color:#1F497D'>–</span><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:7.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> ETSI EN 319 412-3 "Electronic Signatures and Infrastructures (ESI); Certificate Profiles; Part 3: Certificate profile for certificates issued to legal persons".<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:72.0pt;text-indent:-18.0pt'><span style='color:#1F497D'>–</span><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:7.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>C.319 412-4 v1.1.1: Certificate profile for web site certificates issued to organisations<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><table class=MsoNormalTable border=0 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=0 width=960 style='width:720.0pt;border-collapse:collapse'><tr style='height:29.2pt'><td width=480 valign=top style='width:360.0pt;border:solid white 1.0pt;border-bottom:solid white 3.0pt;background:#00CC99;padding:3.6pt 7.2pt 3.6pt 7.2pt;height:29.2pt'><p style='margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:18.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:white'>BR V1.3.4</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:18.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p></td><td width=480 valign=top style='width:360.0pt;border-top:solid white 1.0pt;border-left:none;border-bottom:solid white 3.0pt;border-right:solid white 1.0pt;background:#00CC99;padding:3.6pt 7.2pt 3.6pt 7.2pt;height:29.2pt'><p style='margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:18.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:white'>Dr. Ben Wilson of DigiCert</span></b><b><span style='font-size:18.0pt;color:white'>’</span></b><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:18.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:white'>s version</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:18.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p></td></tr><tr style='height:29.2pt'><td width=480 valign=top style='width:360.0pt;border:solid white 1.0pt;border-top:none;background:#CBECDE;padding:3.6pt 7.2pt 3.6pt 7.2pt;height:29.2pt'><p style='margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:18.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>7.1.4.2.2 Subject Distinguished Name Fields</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:18.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:18.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>d. Certificate Field: </span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:18.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>subject:localityName (OID: 2.5.4.7) </span><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:18.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:18.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Required</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:18.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'> if the subject:organizationName field is present and the subject:stateOrProvinceName field is absent.</span><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:18.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:18.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Optional</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:18.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'> if the subject:organizationName and subject:stateOrProvinceName fields are present.</span><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:18.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:18.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>e. Certificate Field: </span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:18.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>subject:stateOrProvinceName (OID: 2.5.4.8)</span><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:18.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:18.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Required </span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:18.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>if the subject:organizationName field is present and subject:localityName field is absent.</span><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:18.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:18.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Optional </span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:18.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>if subject:organizationName and subject:localityName fields are present.</span><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:18.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p></td><td width=480 valign=top style='width:360.0pt;border-top:none;border-left:none;border-bottom:solid white 1.0pt;border-right:solid white 1.0pt;background:#CBECDE;padding:3.6pt 7.2pt 3.6pt 7.2pt;height:29.2pt'><p style='margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:18.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>7.1.4.2.2 Subject Distinguished Name Fields</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:18.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:18.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>d.Certificate Field:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:18.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'> subject:localityName (OID: 2.5.4.7) </span><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:18.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:18.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Required</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:18.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'> if the subject:organizationName field is present and the subject:stateOrProvinceName field is absent.</span><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:18.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:18.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Optional </span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:18.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>if: (a) the subject:organizationName and subject:stateOrProvinceName fields are present, </span><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:18.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:blue'>or (b) if the country name provided under subsection g. is Taiwan (TW), Singapore (SG)[Note 2], etc..</span><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:18.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:18.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:black'> </span><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:18.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:18.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>e.Certificate Field:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:18.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'> subject:stateOrProvinceName (OID: 2.5.4.8) </span><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:18.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:18.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Required if the subject:organizationName field is present and subject:localityName field is absent.</span><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:18.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:18.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Optional </span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:18.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>if: (a) subject:organizationName and subject:localityName fields are present</span><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:18.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:blue'>, or (b) if the country name provided under subsection g. is Taiwan (TW), Singapore (SG), etc..</span><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:18.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p></td></tr><tr style='height:29.2pt'><td width=480 valign=top style='width:360.0pt;border:solid white 1.0pt;border-top:none;background:#CBECDE;padding:3.6pt 7.2pt 3.6pt 7.2pt;height:29.2pt'><p style='margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:18.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>V1.3.4<o:p></o:p></span></b></p></td><td width=480 valign=top style='width:360.0pt;border-top:none;border-left:none;border-bottom:solid white 1.0pt;border-right:solid white 1.0pt;background:#CBECDE;padding:3.6pt 7.2pt 3.6pt 7.2pt;height:29.2pt'><p style='margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:18.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Dr. Wen-Cheng Wang of Chunghwa Telecom</span></b><b><span style='font-size:18.0pt;color:black'>’</span></b><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:18.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>s Version<o:p></o:p></span></b></p></td></tr><tr style='height:29.2pt'><td width=480 valign=top style='width:360.0pt;border:solid white 1.0pt;border-top:none;background:#CBECDE;padding:3.6pt 7.2pt 3.6pt 7.2pt;height:29.2pt'><p style='margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:18.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>7.1.4.2.2 Subject Distinguished Name Fields<o:p></o:p></span></b></p><p style='margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:18.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>d. Certificate Field: subject:localityName (OID: 2.5.4.7) <o:p></o:p></span></b></p><p style='margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:18.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Required if the subject:organizationName field is present and the subject:stateOrProvinceName field is absent.<o:p></o:p></span></b></p><p style='margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:18.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Optional if the subject:organizationName and subject:stateOrProvinceName fields are present.<o:p></o:p></span></b></p><p style='margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:18.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>e. Certificate Field: subject:stateOrProvinceName (OID: 2.5.4.8)<o:p></o:p></span></b></p><p style='margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:18.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Required if the subject:organizationName field is present and subject:localityName field is absent.<o:p></o:p></span></b></p><p style='margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:18.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Optional if subject:organizationName and subject:localityName fields are present.<o:p></o:p></span></b></p></td><td width=480 valign=top style='width:360.0pt;border-top:none;border-left:none;border-bottom:solid white 1.0pt;border-right:solid white 1.0pt;background:#CBECDE;padding:3.6pt 7.2pt 3.6pt 7.2pt;height:29.2pt'><p style='margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:18.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>7.1.4.2.2 Subject Distinguished Name Fields<o:p></o:p></span></b></p><p style='margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:18.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>d.Certificate Field: subject:localityName (OID: 2.5.4.7) <o:p></o:p></span></b></p><p style='margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:18.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Required if the subject:organizationName field is present and the subject:stateOrProvinceName field is absent.<o:p></o:p></span></b></p><p style='margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:18.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Optional if: (a) the subject:organizationName and subject:stateOrProvinceName fields are or (b) if the subject:organizationName and subject:countryName fields are present and the country/jurisdiction specified by the subject:countryName field has a centralized registry for that kind of organizations so that the organization name specified by the subject:organizationName field is "unique" in the entire country/jurisdiction.<o:p></o:p></span></b></p><p style='margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:18.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Normally, situation (b) may exist in small countries/jurisdictions such as Singapore (SG), Taiwan (TW), etc.<o:p></o:p></span></b></p><p style='margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:18.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:black'> </span></b><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:18.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></b></p></td></tr><tr style='height:29.2pt'><td width=480 valign=top style='width:360.0pt;border:solid white 1.0pt;border-top:none;background:#CBECDE;padding:3.6pt 7.2pt 3.6pt 7.2pt;height:29.2pt'><p style='margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:18.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>V1.3.4<o:p></o:p></span></b></p></td><td width=480 valign=top style='width:360.0pt;border-top:none;border-left:none;border-bottom:solid white 1.0pt;border-right:solid white 1.0pt;background:#CBECDE;padding:3.6pt 7.2pt 3.6pt 7.2pt;height:29.2pt'><p style='margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:18.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Dr. Wen-Cheng Wang of Chunghwa Telecom</span></b><b><span style='font-size:18.0pt;color:black'>’</span></b><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:18.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>s Version<o:p></o:p></span></b></p></td></tr><tr style='height:29.2pt'><td width=480 valign=top style='width:360.0pt;border:solid white 1.0pt;border-top:none;background:#CBECDE;padding:3.6pt 7.2pt 3.6pt 7.2pt;height:29.2pt'></td><td width=480 valign=top style='width:360.0pt;border-top:none;border-left:none;border-bottom:solid white 1.0pt;border-right:solid white 1.0pt;background:#CBECDE;padding:3.6pt 7.2pt 3.6pt 7.2pt;height:29.2pt'><p style='margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:18.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>7.1.4.2.2 Subject Distinguished Name Fields<o:p></o:p></span></b></p><p style='margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:18.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:black'> </span></b><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:18.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></b></p><p style='margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:18.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>e.Certificate Field: subject:stateOrProvinceName (OID: 2.5.4.8) <o:p></o:p></span></b></p><p style='margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:18.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Required if the subject:organizationName field is present and subject:localityName field is absent.<o:p></o:p></span></b></p><p style='margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:18.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Optional if: (a) subject:organizationName and subject:localityName fields are present, or (b) if the subject:organizationName and subject:countryName fields are present and the country/jurisdiction specified by the subject:countryName field has a centralized registry for that kind of organizations so that the organization name specified by the subject:organizationName field is "unique" in the entire country/jurisdiction.<o:p></o:p></span></b></p><p style='margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:18.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Normally, situation (b) may exist in small countries/jurisdictions such as Singapore (SG), Taiwan (TW), etc.<o:p></o:p></span></b></p></td></tr></table><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='text-indent:36.0pt'><span lang=EN-US>Li-Chun CHEN</span><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Erwann Abalea [<a href="mailto:Erwann.Abalea@docusign.com">mailto:Erwann.Abalea@docusign.com</a>] <br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, July 21, 2016 12:32 AM<br><b>To:</b> </span><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>陳立群</span><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'><br><b>Cc:</b> CABFPub; Ben Wilson<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [cabfpub] Suggestion to amend BR Section7.1.4.2.2d/e RE: EV Gudelines section 9.2.5 & X.520<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>Bonjour, <o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>See my answers inline.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>Cordialement,<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>Erwann Abalea<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>Le 20 juil. 2016 </span>à<span lang=EN-US> 11:48, </span>陳立群<span lang=EN-US> <<a href="mailto:realsky@cht.com.tw">realsky@cht.com.tw</a>> a </span>é<span lang=EN-US>crit :<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#0070C0'> I reply as below, for readers easily to see what Erwann wrote were (<a href="https://cabforum.org/pipermail/public/2016-July/007996.html"><span style='color:purple'>https://cabforum.org/pipermail/public/2016-July/007996.html</span></a>) , what I reply now are, I suggest to read attached pdf file, what I reply are in red or blue color.</span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'>Bonsoir,</span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'> </span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'>About small countries that haven</span>’<span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'>t set up any state or province.</span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'> </span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'>X.520 definition for the stateOrProvinceName attribute is (from 201210 edition):</span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'>The State or Province Name attribute type specifies a state or province. When used as a component of a directory name, it identifies a geographical subdivision in which the named object is physically located or with which it is associated in some other important way.</span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'> </span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'>«Geographical subdivision » can mean anything. Maybe some would disagree, but I think that a CA can stretch it pretty easily while respecting the BRs.</span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'>If you want to follow the intent of the « province », since this latin-based word designates an administrative subdivision, it can even be a city or a village, and doesn</span>’<span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'>t necessarily mean a State in the US way. All the countries listed in Note 2 have cities.</span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'> </span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:red'>=====><span class=apple-converted-space><b> </b></span><b>I think X.520 clearly specifies that 'The State or Province Name attribute type specifies a state or province.' (This is the first sentence of the stateOrProvinceName</b></span><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'> <span style='color:red'>definition in X.520.) Should CAB Forum encourage the ambiguity that CAs may put the name of administrative subdivision at any level (such as a city, a county, a town, or a village) into stateOrProvinceName</span> <span style='color:red'>attribute? No, I don't think so.</span></span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'> </span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></blockquote><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>But X.520 doesn</span>’<span lang=EN-US>t define what a state or a province is or isn</span>’<span lang=EN-US>t. Nor does X.520 define what is or isn</span>’<span lang=EN-US>t a valid country, or what is or isn</span>’<span lang=EN-US>t a valid organization.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>X.520 defines a set of attributes, organizes them into types (labelling, geographical, organizational, etc), and gives some guidance on the intent of these attributes.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>Looking at different sources to get the definition of </span><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'>«</span><span lang=EN-US> province</span><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'> »</span><span lang=EN-US>, they all agree on the fact that a province is at least an administrative division of a country. The Oxford Dictionary of English defines province as </span><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'>« </span><span lang=EN-US>a principal administrative division of a country or empire</span><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'> »</span><span lang=EN-US> (here, principal is still subjective). A county, town, city, or even a village is an administrative division. In small countries, city may be the highest level of administrative division.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>X.520 hasn</span>’<span lang=EN-US>t defined an attribute intended to hold a brand name (DBA), and the CABForum has decided that the organizationName attribute can hold either the legal name (complete or with abbreviations) or the brand name, and even a natural person</span>’<span lang=EN-US>s name (for IV certs).<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'>About the uniqueness of an organizationName at a country level.</span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'> </span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'>OV/IV certificates are not meant to unambiguously identify the subject named in the certificate. That role is left for EV certificates.</span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'> </span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:#1F497D'>====><span class=apple-converted-space> </span></span><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:red'>I am really surprised to see the interpretation that 'OV/IV certificates are not meant to unambiguously identify the subject named in the certificate' in the CAB Forum. Is this a common cognition of the CAB Forum? The fundamental function of a public-key certificate is to assert the binding between the subject identity and its public key, isn't it?</span></b><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>Yes. Assert a binding between a public key and an identity, and verify that the applicant has the right to claim this identity. Not assert that this identity is not shared with someone else. Not assert that the bound name is the only possible representation of the entity</span>’<span lang=EN-US>s name.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>If you need these guarantees, then you need to define a set of name canonicalization rules.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:red'>The value of a CA in the internet community is to act as a Trusted Third Party (TTP) which is responsible to verify the identity of the subject and then guarantee the binding between the subject identity and its public key.</span></b><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>Again, that</span>’<span lang=EN-US>s right. The CA verifies the claimed identity, and binds it with the public key. Nothing more for DV/OV/IV.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:red'>I think that OV/IV certificates still need to unambiguously identify the subject named in the certificate. The difference between OV/IV certificates and EV certificates is that they provide different level of assurance regarding the identity information verified. I understand that there does not exist a global X.500 directory. However, A CA should still make its best to unambiguously identify the subject named in the OV/IV certificate. At least, the CA should guarantee that two different entities never share the same subject DN, otherwise how the relying parties can distinguish which organization/individual is actually behind the OV/IV certificate?</span></b><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>This is the purpose of EV. Attributes have been defined to hold the incorporation/registration informations, the business category is included in the name, and a non ambiguous naming scheme has been defined.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:blue'>I have replied in previous email to Peter in </span><span lang=EN-US><a href="https://cabforum.org/pipermail/public/2016-June/007897.html" target="_blank"><span style='font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:purple'>https://cabforum.org/pipermail/public/2016-June/007897.html</span></a></span><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:blue'> as below</span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'> </span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='text-indent:12.0pt'><i><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:blue'>For IV SSL certificate or citizen certificates, we can add unique serial number in Subject Distinguished Names to two different entities have the same names. (You said EV SSL certificates solve the problem, but don</span><span style='color:blue'>’</span></i><i><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:blue'>t forget that EV SSL Certificates will not be issued to individuals, only be issued to Private Organization, Government Entities, Business entities and non-profit international organizations</span></i><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'> </span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>Let</span>’<span lang=EN-US>s suppose it's something we want to do for DV/OV/IV.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>We can add such a unique serialNumber attribute. This serialNumber needs to be shared among all CAs, either by constituting a common database, or by combining some sort of identification document type (ID card, passport, whatever) and the number. If we don</span>’<span lang=EN-US>t have this globally unique number, then CA1 could assign serialNumber 1 for user A, CA2 could assign serialNumber 1 to user B, user A and user B could be homonyms, and the desired goal isn</span>’<span lang=EN-US>t achieved (relying party is unable to distinguish the identities).<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>Is that something we want for natural persons, worldwide?<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='text-indent:18.0pt'><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:blue'>Note that in<span class=apple-converted-space> </span></span><span lang=EN-US><a href="https://cabforum.org/pipermail/public/2016-July/007912.html" target="_blank"><span style='font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:purple'>https://cabforum.org/pipermail/public/2016-July/007912.html</span></a></span><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:blue'>, I have replied to Peter in RFC 3739 there are Qualified Certificates Profiles.</span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><pre><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:blue'>I suggest you to read </span><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:細明體'><o:p></o:p></span></pre><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>I know about Qualified Certificates. CABF OV/IV are not Qualified Certificates. Even EV are not Qualified Certificates. I don</span>’<span lang=EN-US>t want to impose Qualified Certificates to every CA.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></p><pre><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:blue'>3.1.2. Subject</span><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:細明體'><o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Courier New"'> </span><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:細明體'><o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:blue'>The serialNumber attribute type SHALL, when present, be used to differentiate between names where the subject field would otherwise be identical. This attribute has no defined semantics beyond ensuring uniqueness of subject names. It MAY contain a number or code assigned by the CA or an identifier assigned by a government or civil authority. It is the CA's responsibility to ensure that the serialNumber is sufficient to resolve any subject name collisions.</span><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Courier New"'> </span><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:細明體'><o:p></o:p></span></pre><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>Now, the relying party will be able to distinguish identity A and identity B even when names are shared (homonyms, company name, brands), but within a given CA only. In a sense, what will be unique is the combination issuerName+subjectName, not subjectName alone.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='text-indent:12.0pt'><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:blue'>So for Taiwan</span><span style='color:blue'>’</span><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:blue'>s GPKI, we can resolve any subject name collisions for government entities</span><span style='color:blue'>’</span><span class=apple-converted-space><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:blue'> </span></span><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:blue'>SSL certificates or citizen certificates more than 13 years.</span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'>For example, in an IV certificate, there can be more than one individuals named John Malkovich, living in the same country, same province, same city. Only one of them will obviously be able to have the</span><span lang=EN-US><a href="http://johnmalkoti.ch/" target="_blank"><span style='font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:purple'>johnmalkoti.ch</span></a></span><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'> domain, if it exists (it doesn</span>’<span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'>t).</span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'> </span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'>Talking about OV certificates, even if it</span>’<span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'>s not possible to have 2 companies with the same name in the same jurisdiction, it</span>’<span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'>s possible to have 2 certificates having the same name representing 2 different entities. For example «C=UT, ST=MyVillage, O=XXXX», if XXXX is both a company and a brand (DBA).</span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'> </span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'>Combine OV and IV, and «C=UT, ST=MyVillage, O=XXXX» can represent 3 different things, if XXXX is also the full name of an individual and the CA chooses to place this full name in the O field instead of GN/SN. (for a country named Utopia)</span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'> </span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'>The rule for an OV/IV is something like « if you can provide evidence of the claimed identity, it</span>’<span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'>s good».</span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'> </span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'>Again, if you want to disambiguate claimed identities, you</span>’<span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'>re free to add other attributes, or provide an EV certificate.</span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'> </span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'> </span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'>I don</span>’<span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'>t support the proposed BR changes, they only add complexity without any real benefit.</span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'> </span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'> </span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'> </span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'>Looking at the example certificates:</span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><ul style='margin-top:0cm' type=disc><li class=MsoNormal style='mso-list:l1 level1 lfo1'><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'>certificate 1 is not problematic; if you want a less cluttered certificate, go for a DV; wether VA is really a country or not is left as an exercise (it</span>’<span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'>s a territory for me, but I</span>’<span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'>m not so difficult)</span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></li></ul><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:blue'>===>VA is really a country, they don</span><span style='color:blue'>’</span><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:blue'>t set up a government entity whose legal name is called Vatican City<span class=apple-converted-space> </span></span><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:red'>State</span><span class=apple-converted-space><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:blue'> </span></span><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:blue'>or Vatican City<span class=apple-converted-space> </span></span><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:red'>Province</span><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:blue'>, but </span><span lang=EN-US><a href="https://crt.sh/?q=98+ef+2b+4c+43+39+ae+04+3b+bd+55+08+59+b2+b7+b4+ee+76+cb+af" target="_blank"><span style='font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:purple'>https://crt.sh/?q=98+ef+2b+4c+43+39+ae+04+3b+bd+55+08+59+b2+b7+b4+ee+76+cb+af</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>A country without a government?<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>The government is the Holy See, maintains diplomatic relations with other states, has an observer status at UN (non-member), and its sovereign territory is the Vatican.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>The Vatican is only a territory.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>I</span>’<span lang=EN-US>m sure attorneys and jurists following the list may find interest reading about the situation of Holy See and Vatican.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:blue'>The Subject DN is<br>commonName=*.catholica.va<br>organizationName=Department of Telecommunications<br>localityName=Vatican City<br>stateOrProvinceName=Vatican City<span class=apple-converted-space> </span></span><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:red'>State</span><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:blue'><br>countryName =VA</span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'> </span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:blue'>The subject DN should be</span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:blue'>commonName=*.catholica.va<br>organizationName=Department of Telecommunications<br>countryName =VA</span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'> </span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:blue'>It is enough to identify the domain name owner in Vatican.</span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>What is your goal? Asserting the smallest unambiguous possible name, or assert a correct name? OV/EV/IV goal is the second.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'> </span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><ul style='margin-top:0cm' type=disc><li class=MsoNormal style='mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2'><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'>certificate 2 is not wrong per se; Taichung City being a geographical subdivision of Taiwan, an administrative division, and a city, it</span>’<span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'>s not wrong to have Taichung in both the ST and L attributes<span class=apple-converted-space> </span></span>—<span class=apple-converted-space><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'> </span></span><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'>second example is « ST=Taiwan, L=Kaohsiung»; Taiwan being a province of the Taiwan country, and Kaohsiung being a city, it</span>’<span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'>s not wrong</span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></li></ul><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:blue'>===>Taichung City and Kaohsiung City are 6 special municipalities (Traditional<span class=apple-converted-space> </span></span><span lang=EN-US><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Traditional_Chinese_characters" target="_blank" title="Traditional Chinese characters"><span style='font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:purple;text-decoration:none'>Chinese</span></a></span><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:blue'>:<span class=apple-converted-space> </span></span><span style='color:blue'>直轄市</span><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:blue'>) or called<span class=apple-converted-space> </span></span><span lang=EN-US><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Executive_Yuan" target="_blank" title="Executive Yuan"><span style='font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:purple;text-decoration:none'>Yuan</span></a></span><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:blue'>-controlled municipalities (</span><span style='color:blue'>院轄市</span><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:blue'>),theYuan is referred to the Executive Yuan. Special municipalities have the rank of province. </span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:blue'>[…]</span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:blue'>isions of this Act, or to matters that are to be handled by such bodies in accordance with law and where such bodies are responsible for policy formulation and implementation.</span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='text-indent:18.0pt'><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:blue'>For government entity's DN and OID, our government set up a site at<span class=apple-converted-space> </span><a href="http://oid.nat.gov.tw/"><span style='color:purple'>oid.nat.gov.tw</span></a>, it is UTF 8 code in Traditional Chinese. It is no need to put S=Taiwan in DN for entities under Taichung City and Kaohsiung City.</span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></blockquote><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>And this government failed to follow normalized practice.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>The OID arc 2.16 is governed by rules listed in X.660, and those rules were not followed. 2.16.886 is NOT an OID that the government of Taiwan can use.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>Yet you want to write rules that cover the 200+ countries and their particularities, and ask all CAs to follow them</span>…<span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"MS Gothic"'>本信件可能包含中華電信股份有限公司機密資訊</span><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'>,</span><span style='font-family:"MS Gothic"'>非指定之收件者</span><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'>,</span><span style='font-family:"MS Gothic"'>請勿蒐集、處理或利用本信件</span><span style='font-family:SimSun'>內容</span><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'>,</span><span style='font-family:"MS Gothic"'>並請銷毀此信件</span><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'>. </span><span style='font-family:"MS Gothic"'>如為指定收件者</span><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'>,</span><span style='font-family:"MS Gothic"'>應確實保護郵件中本公司之營業機密及個人資料</span><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'>,</span><span style='font-family:"MS Gothic"'>不得任意傳佈或揭露</span><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'>,</span><span style='font-family:"MS Gothic"'>並應自行確認本郵件之附檔與超連結之安全性</span><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'>,</span><span style='font-family:"MS Gothic"'>以共同善盡資訊安全與個資保護責任</span><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'>. <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'>Please be advised that this email message (including any attachments) contains confidential information and may be legally privileged. 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