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<div class="">In my point of view, there’s a confusion here between an identity (givenName+surName) and an individual (a physical person).</div>
<div class="">An identity can be claimed by several individuals, therefore it’s ambiguous. Likewise, an individual can have several identities, and these identities can change over the individual’s life.</div>
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<div class="">BR only requires CAs to assert that an Applicant is right when claiming an identity and address. In the final certificate, you’ll only find the claimed identity and address, not the exact Applicant.</div>
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<div class="">Looking at OV certificates, this ambiguity is already there. O can contain a company name or a brand name; a company name can be used by several distinct companies (even at the same place); a brand name registered under one jurisdiction belongs
to a single company, but the same brand name can be registered in different jurisdictions and can also be used by different companies (with agreements). Identity and address verification can be performed using different documents, adding another layer of flexibility/complexity.</div>
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<div class="">Cordialement,</div>
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<p class=""><font face="Calibri" class="">However, I was not implying that the BRs currently require extra attributes</font><font face="Calibri" class=""> in the Subject DN, nor am I proposing to modify the BRs at this stage.<br class="">
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<p class=""><font face="Calibri" class="">I was just arguing that givenName+surname is too vague as an identity, IMO, even if referred to a specific country and locality.
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<p class=""><font face="Calibri" class="">That is, it does not seem to me an effective "equivalent" of the organizationName that is requested for OV certs.<br class="">
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<div class="">Bonjour,</div>
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<div class="">givenName and surName are sufficient to specify an identity. More than one person may share this identity, but to me, BR don’t tend to distinguish them. There’s nothing in BR requiring CAs to generate certificates with canonical and non-ambiguous
names. The non-ambiguity goal is achieved by following EVG only.</div>
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<div class="">Given your example IV certificate, you’ll have givenName=John, surName=Doe, and also a country and either a localityName or a stateOrProvinceName. So you’ll know that this website belongs to someone named John Doe living in a specific city or
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<div class="">If you want to follow ETSI 319412-1 rules and insert a serialNumber attribute to avoid name collisions, feel free, it’s not forbidden.</div>
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<font class="" face="Calibri">But givenName and surname are not sufficient to specify an identity. How many Robert Smiths exist in UK/US/CA ? (or Mario Rossi in Italy, as to that).<br class="">
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<font class="" face="Calibri">If I would like to know who's behind a web site whose SSL cert contains giveName=John, surname=Doe, I am none the wiser.<br class="">
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Il 23/08/2016 20:02, Bruce Morton ha scritto:<br class="">
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<span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class="">OK, thanks.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class="">Bruce.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div>
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<b class="">From:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Jeremy Rowley [<a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:jeremy.rowley@digicert.com" style="color: rgb(149, 79, 114);
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<b class="">Sent:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Monday, August 22, 2016 6:16 PM<br class="">
<b class="">To:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Bruce Morton<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:Bruce.Morton@entrust.com" style="color: rgb(149, 79, 114);
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<b class="">Subject:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>RE: givenName and surname revived<o:p class=""></o:p></div>
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<span class="">What do you mean by definition? I consider IV v. OV well defined because of the meaning associated with the OID inserted into the cert. Section 7.1.6.1 states “<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>{joint‐iso‐itu‐t(2) international‐organizations(23)
ca‐browser‐forum(140) certificate‐policies(1) baseline‐requirements(2) individual‐validated(3)} (2.23.140.1.2.3), if the Certificate complies with these Requirements and includes Subject Identity Information that is verified in accordance with Section 3.2.3.”
Section 3.2.3 is verification of an individual whereas Section 3.2.2 is verification of an organization. <o:p class=""></o:p></div>
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<b class="">From:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Bruce Morton [<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:Bruce.Morton@entrust.com" style="color: rgb(149, 79, 114);
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<b class="">Sent:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Monday, August 22, 2016 6:11 AM<br class="">
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<span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class="">Hi Jeremy,<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class="">My apologies, but can you clarify the section where IV certs are well defined? I see that “individual-validated” is stated twice in sections 1.2 and 7.1.6.1 (the same for domain-validated and organization-validated),
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<span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class="">Thanks, Bruce.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div>
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<b class="">From:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Jeremy Rowley [<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:jeremy.rowley@digicert.com" style="color: rgb(149, 79, 114);
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<b class="">Sent:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Saturday, August 20, 2016 10:41 AM<br class="">
<b class="">To:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Bruce Morton <<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:Bruce.Morton@entrust.com" style="color: rgb(149, 79, 114);
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<b class="">Subject:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>RE: givenName and surname revived<o:p class=""></o:p></div>
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<span class="">Hey Bruce – IV certs are well defined. The goal of the ballot isn’t to further define IV certs but to permit use of the givenName and surname fields for IV certs. giveName and surname in the org field would be allowed. They’d still use the IV
OIDs as they were validated under the IV section of the CP.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div>
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<b class="">From:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Bruce Morton [<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:Bruce.Morton@entrust.com" style="color: rgb(149, 79, 114);
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<b class="">Sent:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Friday, August 19, 2016 6:41 AM<br class="">
<b class="">To:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Jeremy Rowley <<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:jeremy.rowley@digicert.com" style="color: rgb(149, 79, 114);
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<b class="">Subject:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>RE: givenName and surname revived<o:p class=""></o:p></div>
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<span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class="">Hi Jeremy,<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class="">Would like some clarification. On the call yesterday, it was said that IV certificates were not defined, so this ballot will help resolve this.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class="">Per 7.1.4.2.2 b, the current BRs allow givenName and surname to be included in the organizationName field. Will this still be allowed? If so, what would the certificate type be? OV or IV? I would prefer that these
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<span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class="">If we do make the changes and the CAs have to meet Microsoft’s requirement to put a DV, OV, or IV certificate policy in the certificate, I think we should clearly define each certificate type.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class="">Also, the stateOrProvinceName field appears to currently have an issue as it does not have any language to address the case where there is no state or province in the address.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class="">Thanks, Bruce.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div>
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<b class="">From:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:public-bounces@cabforum.org" style="color: rgb(149, 79, 114);
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Looking for two endorsers for the following revisions the baseline requirements adding support for givenName and surname:<o:p class=""></o:p></div>
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Insert a new (C) under 7.1.4.2.2, renumbering all subsequent bullets.<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><o:p class=""></o:p></div>
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<u class="">c.<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><b class="">Certificate Field</b>: subject:givenName (2.5.4.42) and subject:surname (2.5.4.4)<o:p class=""></o:p></u></div>
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<b class=""><u class="">Contents: </u></b><u class="">If present, the subject:givenName field and subject:surname field MUST contain an natural person Subject’s name as verified under Section 3.2.3. A Certificate containing a subject:givenName field or subject:surname
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<u class="">d.</u><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Certificate Field: Number and street: subject:streetAddress (OID: 2.5.4.9)<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><o:p class=""></o:p></div>
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Optional if the subject:organizationName field<u class="">, subject: givenName field, or subject:surname field are</u><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><s class="">is</s>present. Prohibited if the subject:organizationName field<u class="">, subject:givenName,
and subject:surname field are</u><s class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>is</s><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>absent.<o:p class=""></o:p></div>
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<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Contents: If present, the subject:streetAddress field MUST contain the Subject’s street address information as verified under Section 3.2.2.1.<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><o:p class=""></o:p></div>
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<u class="">e</u>. Certificate Field: subject:localityName (OID: 2.5.4.7)<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><o:p class=""></o:p></div>
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Required if the subject:organizationName field,<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><u class="">subject:givenName field, or subject:surname field are</u><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><s class="">is</s>present and the subject:stateOrProvinceName
field is absent. Optional if the<u class="">subject:stateOrProvinceName field and the subject:organizationName field, subject:givenName field, or subject:surname </u>field are present. Prohibited if the subject:organizationName field,<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><u class="">subject:givenName,
and subject:surname field are<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></u><s class="">is</s><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>absent.<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><o:p class=""></o:p></div>
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Contents: If present, the subject:localityName field MUST contain the Subject’s locality information as verified under Section 3.2.2.1. If the subject:countryName field specifies the ISO 3166‐1 user‐assigned code of XX in accordance with Section 7.1.4.2.2(g),
the localityName field MAY contain the Subject’s locality and/or state or province information as verified under Section 3.2.2.1.<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><o:p class=""></o:p></div>
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<u class="">f</u>. Certificate Field: subject:stateOrProvinceName (OID: 2.5.4.8)<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><o:p class=""></o:p></div>
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Required if the subject:organizationName field field,<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><u class="">subject:givenName field, or subject:surname field are</u><s class="">is<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></s>present and<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><u class="">the<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></u>subject:localityName
field is absent. Optional if the<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><u class="">subject:localityName field and the subject:organizationName field, the subject:givenName field, or subject:surname field</u><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>are
present. Prohibited if the subject:organizationName field,<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><u class="">subject:givenName field , or subject:surname field<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></u>are<s class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>is</s>absent.
Contents: If present, the subject:stateOrProvinceName field MUST contain the Subject’s state or province information as verified under Section 3.2.2.1. If the subject:countryName field specifies the ISO 3166‐1 user‐assigned code of XX in accordance with Section
7.1.4.2.2(g), the subject:stateOrProvinceName field MAY contain the full name of the Subject’s country information as verified under Section 3.2.2.1.<o:p class=""></o:p></div>
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<u class="">g</u>. Certificate Field: subject:postalCode (OID: 2.5.4.17)<o:p class=""></o:p></div>
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Optional if the subject:organizationName,<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><u class="">subject:givenName field, or subject:surname</u><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>fields<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><u class="">are</u><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><s class="">is</s>present.
Prohibited if the subject:organizationName field,<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><u class="">subject:givenName field, or subject:surname field are<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></u><s class="">is</s><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>absent.<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><o:p class=""></o:p></div>
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Contents: If present, the subject:postalCode field MUST contain the Subject’s zip or postal information as verified under Section 3.2.2.1.<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><o:p class=""></o:p></div>
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<u class="">h</u>. Certificate Field: subject:countryName (OID: 2.5.4.6)<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><o:p class=""></o:p></div>
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Required if the subject:organizationName field,<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><u class="">subject:givenName , or subject:surname field</u><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>is present. Optional if the subject:organizationName field,<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><u class="">subject:givenName
field</u>, and <u class="">subject:surname field are</u><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><s class="">is</s>absent.<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><o:p class=""></o:p></div>
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Contents: If the subject:organizationName field is present, the subject:countryName MUST contain the two‐letter ISO 3166‐1 country code associated with the location of the Subject verified under Section 3.2.2.1. If the subject:organizationName,<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><u class="">subject:givenName
field, and subject:surname</u><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span> field<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><u class="">are</u><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><s class=""> is<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></s>absent,
the subject:countryName field MAY contain the two‐letter ISO 3166‐1 country code associated with the Subject as verified in accordance with Section 3.2.2.3. If a Country is not represented by an official ISO 3166‐1 country code, the CA MAY specify the ISO
3166‐1 user‐assigned code of XX indicating that an official ISO 3166‐1 alpha‐2 code has not been assigned.<o:p class=""></o:p></div>
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<u class="">i</u>. Certificate Field: subject:organizationalUnitName<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><o:p class=""></o:p></div>
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Optional.<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><o:p class=""></o:p></div>
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<u class="">Contents:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></u>The CA SHALL implement a process that prevents an OU attribute from including a name, DBA, tradename, trademark, address, location, or other text that refers to a specific natural person or
Legal Entity unless the CA has verified this information in accordance with Section 3.2 and the Certificate also contains subject:organizationName,<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><u class="">subject:givenName, subject:surname,<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></u>subject:localityName,
and subject:countryName attributes, also verified in accordance with Section 3.2.2.1.<o:p class=""></o:p></div>
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If the Certificate asserts the policy identifier of 2.23.140.1.2.1, then it MUST NOT include organizationName,<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><u class="">givenName, surname,</u><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>streetAddress, localityName,
stateOrProvinceName, or postalCode in the Subject field.<o:p class=""></o:p></div>
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