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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link="#0563C1" vlink="#954F72"><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>I don’t agree with this. We should permit givenName and surname for now, but still permit O fields. There isn’t a good reason to switch over until after we’ve seen the impact of moving to givenName and surname instead of the O field. The language for the state/locality is the same. An IV or OV cert requires either a state or locality. The OIDs are already clearly defined under Section 7.1.6.1 of the BRs. This wouldn’t change. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Jeremy<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><a name="_MailEndCompose"><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></a></p><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailEndCompose'></span><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>From:</span></b><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'> public-bounces@cabforum.org [mailto:public-bounces@cabforum.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Richard Wang<br><b>Sent:</b> Friday, August 19, 2016 9:42 AM<br><b>To:</b> Bruce Morton <Bruce.Morton@entrust.com><br><b>Cc:</b> public@cabforum.org<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [cabfpub] givenName and surname revived<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>See below inline, thanks.<br><br>Regards,<span style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Richard<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><br>On 19 Aug 2016, at 20:40, Bruce Morton <<a href="mailto:Bruce.Morton@entrust.com">Bruce.Morton@entrust.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Hi Jeremy,</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Would like some clarification. On the call yesterday, it was said that IV certificates were not defined, so this ballot will help resolve this.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Per 7.1.4.2.2 b, the current BRs allow givenName and surname to be included in the organizationName field. Will this still be allowed? If so, what would the certificate type be? OV or IV? I would prefer that these be OV certificates.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></blockquote><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>R: I think we need to update this item in the same time that the givenName and surname to be included in the organizationName field is not allowed. This will confuse the site visitor think the personal name is a registered company name.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><br><br><o:p></o:p></span></p><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>If we do make the changes and the CAs have to meet Microsoft’s requirement to put a DV, OV, or IV certificate policy in the certificate, I think we should clearly define each certificate type.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></blockquote><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>R: Yes.<o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><br><br><o:p></o:p></span></p><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Also, the stateOrProvinceName field appears to currently have an issue as it does not have any language to address the case where there is no state or province in the address.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></blockquote><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>R: I think locality and state/province must have one.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><br><br><o:p></o:p></span></p><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Thanks, Bruce.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b>From:</b> <a href="mailto:public-bounces@cabforum.org">public-bounces@cabforum.org</a> [<a href="mailto:public-bounces@cabforum.org">mailto:public-bounces@cabforum.org</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Jeremy Rowley<br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, August 18, 2016 12:09 PM<br><b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:public@cabforum.org">public@cabforum.org</a><br><b>Subject:</b> [cabfpub] givenName and surname revived<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Looking for two endorsers for the following revisions the baseline requirements adding support for givenName and surname:<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Insert a new (C) under 7.1.4.2.2, renumbering all subsequent bullets. <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><u>c. <b>Certificate Field</b>: subject:givenName (2.5.4.42) and subject:surname (2.5.4.4)</u><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><u>Optional. </u></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><u>Contents: </u></b><u>If present, the subject:givenName field and subject:surname field MUST contain an natural person Subject’s name as verified under Section 3.2.3. A Certificate containing a subject:givenName field or subject:surname field MUST contain the (2.23.140.1.2.3) Certificate Policy OID</u>.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><u>d.</u> Certificate Field: Number and street: subject:streetAddress (OID: 2.5.4.9) <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal> Optional if the subject:organizationName field<u>, subject: givenName field, or subject:surname field are</u> <s>is</s> present. Prohibited if the subject:organizationName field<u>, subject:givenName, and subject:surname field are</u><s> is</s> absent.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal> Contents: If present, the subject:streetAddress field MUST contain the Subject’s street address information as verified under Section 3.2.2.1. <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><u>e</u>. Certificate Field: subject:localityName (OID: 2.5.4.7) <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Required if the subject:organizationName field, <u>subject:givenName field, or subject:surname field are</u> <s>is</s> present and the subject:stateOrProvinceName field is absent. Optional if the<u> subject:stateOrProvinceName field and the subject:organizationName field, subject:givenName field, or subject:surname </u>field are present. Prohibited if the subject:organizationName field, <u>subject:givenName, and subject:surname field are </u><s>is</s> absent. <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Contents: If present, the subject:localityName field MUST contain the Subject’s locality information as verified under Section 3.2.2.1. If the subject:countryName field specifies the ISO 3166‐1 user‐assigned code of XX in accordance with Section 7.1.4.2.2(g), the localityName field MAY contain the Subject’s locality and/or state or province information as verified under Section 3.2.2.1. <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><u>f</u>. Certificate Field: subject:stateOrProvinceName (OID: 2.5.4.8) <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Required if the subject:organizationName field field, <u>subject:givenName field, or subject:surname field are</u> <s>is </s>present and <u>the </u>subject:localityName field is absent. Optional if the <u>subject:localityName field and the subject:organizationName field, the subject:givenName field, or subject:surname field</u> are present. Prohibited if the subject:organizationName field, <u>subject:givenName field , or subject:surname field </u>are<s> is</s> absent. Contents: If present, the subject:stateOrProvinceName field MUST contain the Subject’s state or province information as verified under Section 3.2.2.1. If the subject:countryName field specifies the ISO 3166‐1 user‐assigned code of XX in accordance with Section 7.1.4.2.2(g), the subject:stateOrProvinceName field MAY contain the full name of the Subject’s country information as verified under Section 3.2.2.1.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><u>g</u>. Certificate Field: subject:postalCode (OID: 2.5.4.17)<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Optional if the subject:organizationName, <u>subject:givenName field, or subject:surname</u> fields <u>are</u> <s>is</s> present. Prohibited if the subject:organizationName field, <u>subject:givenName field, or subject:surname field are </u><s>is</s> absent. <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Contents: If present, the subject:postalCode field MUST contain the Subject’s zip or postal information as verified under Section 3.2.2.1. <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><u>h</u>. Certificate Field: subject:countryName (OID: 2.5.4.6) <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Required if the subject:organizationName field, <u>subject:givenName , or subject:surname field</u> is present. Optional if the subject:organizationName field, <u>subject:givenName field</u>, and <u>subject:surname field are</u> <s>is</s> absent. <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Contents: If the subject:organizationName field is present, the subject:countryName MUST contain the two‐letter ISO 3166‐1 country code associated with the location of the Subject verified under Section 3.2.2.1. If the subject:organizationName, <u>subject:givenName field, and subject:surname</u> field <u>are</u> <s> is </s>absent, the subject:countryName field MAY contain the two‐letter ISO 3166‐1 country code associated with the Subject as verified in accordance with Section 3.2.2.3. If a Country is not represented by an official ISO 3166‐1 country code, the CA MAY specify the ISO 3166‐1 user‐assigned code of XX indicating that an official ISO 3166‐1 alpha‐2 code has not been assigned.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><u>i</u>. Certificate Field: subject:organizationalUnitName <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Optional. <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><u>Contents: </u>The CA SHALL implement a process that prevents an OU attribute from including a name, DBA, tradename, trademark, address, location, or other text that refers to a specific natural person or Legal Entity unless the CA has verified this information in accordance with Section 3.2 and the Certificate also contains subject:organizationName, <u>subject:givenName, subject:surname, </u>subject:localityName, and subject:countryName attributes, also verified in accordance with Section 3.2.2.1.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>7.1.6.1<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>…<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>If the Certificate asserts the policy identifier of 2.23.140.1.2.1, then it MUST NOT include organizationName, <u>givenName, surname,</u> streetAddress, localityName, stateOrProvinceName, or postalCode in the Subject field.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>…<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div></blockquote><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>_______________________________________________<br>Public mailing list<br></span><a href="mailto:Public@cabforum.org"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Public@cabforum.org</span></a><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><br></span><a href="https://cabforum.org/mailman/listinfo/public"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>https://cabforum.org/mailman/listinfo/public</span></a><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></blockquote></div></div></body></html>