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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 15/7/2016 9:25 μμ, Erwann Abalea
wrote:<br>
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cite="mid:BA681E94-080C-40C8-866E-1F30375B9CAA@docusign.com"
type="cite">Bonjour Li-Chun,
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<div class="">That’s a long email. To avoid make it even longer, I
propose to split it in several parts; that should help keep a
manageable size.</div>
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<div class="">I’ll start with the end, because why not?</div>
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<div class="">You want to have special rules for small countries
where ST or L is not available, and provide a list of such small
countries in Note 2.</div>
<div class="">That’s in fact a list of ISO3166-1 codes. Not all of
them are actual country codes (ISO3166-1 lists country and
territories) and are suitable for use in DV/OV/EV certificates
(see the definition of an acceptable country code in the BR).</div>
<div class="">Among them:</div>
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<li class="">GF, GP, MQ, YT, RE are regions and departments of
France (C=FR, and you can put their name into the
stateOrProvinceName attribute), and they are even composed
of cities (we have 6 administrative subdivision levels in
France, with more than 36000 cities, we’re crazy)</li>
<li class="">BV and SJ belong to Norway (C=NO), you can
certainly put their name into the stateOrProvinceName
attribute</li>
<li class="">FK, GI, GS, PN, VG are British Overseas
Territories (some are disputed either by Argentina or Spain,
but still, C=UK)</li>
<li class="">CX and NF are Australian territories (C=AU)</li>
<li class="">FO is a constituent country of Denmark (C=DK),
exactly like Scotland wrt UK</li>
<li class="">GU is a non incorporated territory of the United
States of America (C=US), just like Porto Rico</li>
<li class="">GG, IM, JE are Crown dependancies, can possibly
be considered as countries (C=GG/IM/JE), but anyway have
administrative subdivisions</li>
<li class="">LB, ME, MK, SI (not SVN) are countries, and have
administrative subdivisions (localities, and a second level
for LB)</li>
<li class="">RS is a country (C=RS), has districts and
localities, part of its province is Kosovo, a
self-proclaimed country recognized by at least 2 UN members
(C=XX is acceptable, as well as C=RS for this province)</li>
<li class="">PS is in an unsatisfying situation, but anyway is
recognized by at least 2 UN members, so C=PS is good, and
this country has 2 levels of administrative subdivisions</li>
<li class="">EH is a self-proclaimed country, disputed by
Morocco, but recognized by at least 2 UN members, so C=EH is
good, and this country has several localities</li>
<li class="">SG is of course a country, but also a city, is
composed of 64 islands, I don’t know if it’s possible to
have their name in an attribute</li>
<li class="">TW is a complicated story (with China), but this
country is recognized by at least 2 UN members, so C=TW is
fine; this country has administrative subdivisions</li>
<li class="">VA is weird, not completely a sovereign state
(its UN representation is the Holy See — and not Vatican),
more like an international organization like UN; there’s no
Vatican nationality; C=VA is possibly invalid</li>
<li class="">AN is not to be used again until december 2061,
replaced by CW/SX/BQ, their status is unclear</li>
<li class="">NU is also unclear (is it part of NZ or UK, or an
autonomous country?), anyway it has subdivisions
(localities)</li>
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<div class="">That leaves SG as possibly ST/L problematic (but «
C=SG, L=Singapore » is fine), and CW/SX/BQ have to be reviewed.
Is it really necessary to have exceptions?</div>
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Hello Erwann,<br>
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We discussed this issue on the recent policyWG call. One of the
concerns raised, that is also reflected in your detailed analysis,
comes down to "is there an authoritative source for this sort of
information"? It is not easy for each member to provide a personal
opinion on all these countries. Some of these assumptions may be
100% accurate and some may not. In any case, it is not easy to do
research for each one of these ISO3166-1 countries, each one with
its own history and special circumstances :) <br>
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Kenneth Myers sent an interesting repository that includes countries
and subdivisions
(<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://cabforum.org/pipermail/policyreview/2016-July/000322.html">https://cabforum.org/pipermail/policyreview/2016-July/000322.html</a>).
This online registry could be used as a starting point. Other
official repositories may exist with similar information.<br>
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Best regards,<br>
Dimitris.<br>
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