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Isn’t REG representative of ORG, within a CC+LOC/STATE scope?
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<div class="">Cordialement,</div>
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<div class="">Le 24 mai 2016 à 15:05, Rick Andrews <<a href="mailto:Rick_Andrews@symantec.com" class="">Rick_Andrews@symantec.com</a>> a écrit :</div>
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<span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(68, 84, 106);" class="">Why do a) i) and b) i) not end in –ORG? It seems like we want to put REG or DATE in the identifier, but I think we should always have ORG.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div>
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[<a href="mailto:public-bounces@cabforum.org" class="">mailto:public-bounces@cabforum.org</a>]<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><b class="">On Behalf Of<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Jeremy Rowley<br class="">
<b class="">Sent:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Friday, May 06, 2016 1:37 PM<br class="">
<b class="">To:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Rich Smith <<a href="mailto:richard.smith@comodo.com" class="">richard.smith@comodo.com</a>>;
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<b class="">Subject:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: [cabfpub] FW: ambiguity implementing permanentIdentifier<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: windowtext;" class="">This section needs several revisions, which we’ve discussed on the code signing mailing list. It’s probably about time to ballot some of these. Here’s a proposed change we previously
discussed in the working group:<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div>
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The Certificate MUST include a SubjectAltName:permanentIdentifier (identifier). This field MUST contain a Unicode string created from the contents of the Certificate's subject fields using the first of the following to apply:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><o:p class=""></o:p></div>
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a) If the Certificate contains the subjectjurisdictionOfIncorporationLocalityName field then<o:p class=""></o:p></div>
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i) if the Certificate contains a Registration Number then the identifier is created and formatted as "CC-LOC-REG"<o:p class=""></o:p></div>
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ii) if the Certificate contains a Registration Date then identifier is created and formatted as "CC-LOC-DATE-ORG"<o:p class=""></o:p></div>
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iii) otherwise the identifier is created and formatted as "CC-LOC-ORG"<o:p class=""></o:p></div>
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b) If the Certificate contains the subjectjurisdictionOfIncorporationStateorProvinceName field then<o:p class=""></o:p></div>
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i) if the Certificate contains a Registration Number then identifier is created and formatted as "CC-STATE-REG"<o:p class=""></o:p></div>
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ii) if the Certificate contains a Registration Date then identifier is created and formatted as "CC-STATE-DATE-ORG"<o:p class=""></o:p></div>
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iii) otherwise the identifier is created and formatted as "CC-STATE-ORG"<o:p class=""></o:p></div>
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Where:<o:p class=""></o:p></div>
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a) CC is the ISO 3166-2 country code corresponding Subject’s Jurisdiction of Incorporation or Registration (CC), as specified in the subject:jurisdictionOfIncorporationCountryName field;<o:p class=""></o:p></div>
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b) LOC is Subject’s Jurisdiction of Incorporation in uppercase characters as specified in the subjectjurisdictionOfIncorporationLocalityName, expressed in an unabbreviated format;<o:p class=""></o:p></div>
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c) STATE is the Subject's Jurisdiction of Incorporation in uppercase characters as specified in the subject:jurisdictionofIncorporationStateorProvinceName field, expressed in an unabbreviated format;<o:p class=""></o:p></div>
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d) REG is the Subject's Registration Number as included in the Subject:serialNumber field;<o:p class=""></o:p></div>
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e) DATE is the Subject's date of Incorporation or Registration in YYYY-MM-DD format (DATE) as included in the Subject:serialNumber field; and<o:p class=""></o:p></div>
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f) ORG is the Subject’s Organization Name as included in the organizationName field (ORG),<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><o:p class=""></o:p></div>
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g) All included “-“ characters are Unicode 002D and any included spaces in REG, STATE, or ORG are Unicode 0020.<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><o:p class=""></o:p></div>
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The “assigner name form” MUST be absent from the SAN field used for the permanentIdentifier. However, it is expected that Application Software will treat the permanentIdentifier as globally unique.<o:p class=""></o:p></div>
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<b class="">Sent:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Friday, May 6, 2016 1:49 PM<br class="">
<b class="">To:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:public@cabforum.org" style="color: rgb(149, 79, 114); text-decoration: underline;" class="">public@cabforum.org</a><br class="">
<b class="">Subject:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: [cabfpub] FW: ambiguity implementing permanentIdentifier<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div>
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This portion is pretty much identical to the EV Guidelines and I've always interpreted it to mean that for a business registered at the locality level, regardless of whether or not regulated by the state/province, the correct encoding is:<br class="">
JC = xx, JST = yy, JL = zz<span style="font-size: 12pt;" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></p>
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On 5/6/2016 2:41 PM, Dean Coclin wrote:<o:p class=""></o:p></div>
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<span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class="">Forwarding to the public list for greater reach and commentary…</span><o:p class=""></o:p></div>
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<b class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">From:</span></b><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:codesigning-bounces@cabforum.org" style="color: rgb(149, 79, 114); text-decoration: underline;" class="">codesigning-bounces@cabforum.org</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>[<a href="mailto:codesigning-bounces@cabforum.org" style="color: rgb(149, 79, 114); text-decoration: underline;" class="">mailto:codesigning-bounces@cabforum.org</a>]<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><b class="">On
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<b class="">Sent:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Friday, May 06, 2016 5:59 AM<br class="">
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<b class="">Subject:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>[cabfc_s] ambiguity implementing permanentIdentifier</span><o:p class=""></o:p></div>
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<span style="font-size: 10pt;" class="">Hello,</span><o:p class=""></o:p></div>
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<span style="font-size: 10pt;" class="">While I analyzing SubjectAltName:permanentIdentifier specified in section 9.7 of EV-Code-Signing-v.1.3.pdf,<br class="">
I found an ambiguity of generating “STATE”.</span><o:p class=""></o:p></div>
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<span style="font-size: 10pt;" class="">9.7 (B) 2) says:</span><o:p class=""></o:p></div>
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<span style="font-size: 10pt;" class="">If applicable, the state, province, or locality of the Subject’s Jurisdiction of Incorporation in</span><o:p class=""></o:p></div>
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<span style="font-size: 10pt;" class="">uppercase characters as specified in the subjectjurisdictionOfIncorporationLocalityName or</span><o:p class=""></o:p></div>
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<span style="font-size: 10pt;" class="">subject:jurisdictionofIncorporationStateorProvinceName field, expressed in an unabbreviated</span><o:p class=""></o:p></div>
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<span style="font-size: 10pt;" class="">format (STATE);</span><o:p class=""></o:p></div>
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<span style="font-size: 10pt;" class="">Let JST be subjectjurisdictionOfIncorporationLocalityName and JL be subject:jurisdictionofIncorporationStateorProvinceName.</span><o:p class=""></o:p></div>
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<span style="font-size: 10pt;" class="">In such case, following all patterns are acceptable?</span><o:p class=""></o:p></div>
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<span class="">a)<span style="font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 7pt; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Times New Roman';" class=""> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></span><span style="font-size: 10pt;" class="">STATE=ST</span><o:p class=""></o:p></div>
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<span class="">b)<span style="font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 7pt; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Times New Roman';" class=""> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></span><span style="font-size: 10pt;" class="">STATE=JL-ST</span><o:p class=""></o:p></div>
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<span class="">c)<span style="font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 7pt; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Times New Roman';" class=""> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></span><span style="font-size: 10pt; background-color: yellow; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial;" class="">STATE=JL</span><o:p class=""></o:p></div>
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<span style="font-size: 10pt;" class="">I also have a problem of implementing JST and JL.</span><o:p class=""></o:p></div>
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<span style="font-size: 10pt;" class="">Section 9.2.5 of EV-V1_5_9.pdf specifies how to implement JST, JL and JC (JC means subject:jurisdictionCountryName).</span><o:p class=""></o:p></div>
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<span style="font-size: 10pt;" class="">The specification says:</span><o:p class=""></o:p></div>
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<span style="font-size: 10pt;" class="">For example, the Jurisdiction of Incorporation for an Incorporating Agency or</span><o:p class=""></o:p></div>
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<span style="font-size: 10pt;" class="">Jurisdiction of Registration for a Registration Agency that operates at the country level MUST include the country</span><o:p class=""></o:p></div>
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<span style="font-size: 10pt;" class="">information but MUST NOT include the state or province or locality information. Similarly, the jurisdiction for</span><o:p class=""></o:p></div>
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<span style="font-size: 10pt;" class="">the applicable Incorporating Agency or Registration Agency at the state or province level MUST include both</span><o:p class=""></o:p></div>
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<span style="font-size: 10pt;" class="">country and state or province information, but MUST NOT include locality information. And, the jurisdiction for</span><o:p class=""></o:p></div>
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<span style="font-size: 10pt;" class="">the applicable Incorporating Agency or Registration Agency at the locality level MUST include the country and</span><o:p class=""></o:p></div>
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<span style="font-size: 10pt;" class="">state or province information, where the state or province regulates the registration of the entities at the locality</span><o:p class=""></o:p></div>
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<span style="font-size: 10pt;" class="">level, as well as the locality information.</span><o:p class=""></o:p></div>
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<span style="font-size: 10pt;" class="">I understand this definition as:</span><o:p class=""></o:p></div>
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<span style="font-size: 10pt;" class="">If COUNTRY LEVEL</span><o:p class=""></o:p></div>
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<span style="font-size: 10pt;" class="">JC = xx</span><o:p class=""></o:p></div>
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<span style="font-size: 10pt;" class="">ELSE IF ST/P LEVEL</span><o:p class=""></o:p></div>
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<span style="font-size: 10pt;" class="">JC = xx, JST = yy</span><o:p class=""></o:p></div>
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<span style="font-size: 10pt;" class="">ELSE (=IF LOCALITY LEVEL) {</span><o:p class=""></o:p></div>
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<span style="font-size: 10pt;" class="">IF "state or province regulates the registration of the entities at the locality level"</span><o:p class=""></o:p></div>
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<span style="font-size: 10pt;" class="">JC = xx, JST = yy, JL = zz</span><o:p class=""></o:p></div>
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<span style="font-size: 10pt; background-color: yellow; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial;" class="">ELSE (=IF "state or province does not regulate the registration of the entities at the locality level")</span><o:p class=""></o:p></div>
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<span style="font-size: 10pt; background-color: yellow; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial;" class="">JC = xx, JL = zz</span><o:p class=""></o:p></div>
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<span style="font-size: 10pt;" class="">}</span><o:p class=""></o:p></div>
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<span style="font-size: 10pt;" class="">I am very interested in the yellow colored parts.</span><o:p class=""></o:p></div>
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<span style="font-size: 10pt;" class="">If both are acceptable, it’s OK.</span><o:p class=""></o:p></div>
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<span style="font-size: 10pt;" class="">But, if “c) STATE=JL” is not acceptable, then, how should we cope with the case of “JC=xx, JL=zz”?</span><o:p class=""></o:p></div>
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<span style="font-size: 10pt;" class="">And also if “JC=xx, JL=zz” is not acceptable, how should we cope with the case of “c) STATE=JL”?</span><o:p class=""></o:p></div>
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<span style="font-size: 10pt;" class="">Regards,</span><o:p class=""></o:p></div>
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<span style="font-size: 10pt;" class="">Koichi Sugimoto.</span><o:p class=""></o:p></div>
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