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<p>If not a legal opinion, maybe "common understanding" would still
be useful.<br>
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<p>As a simple rule I'd suggest to respect any legally binding
exclusions of a given jurisdiction (to apply to all CAs that do
business in that jurisdiction). Does that make sense?<br>
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Thanks,<br>
M..D.<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 5/4/2016 8:42 PM, Ryan Sleevi wrote:<br>
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<p dir="ltr">Dean,</p>
<p dir="ltr">Based on the advice we've received, I don't believe
that would be useful. The matter is unlikely to be able to be
settled by the Forum - in the event of lawsuit, it will have to
be resolved by adjudication. While individual members and their
counsel may have differing opinions as to the appropriateness of
the exclusions, the Forum itself cannot offer a legal opinion.
The possibilities would be to update the Bylaws or propose a new
ballot, and that's a significant enough activity that it would
likely require a separate exploration.</p>
<div class="gmail_quote">On May 4, 2016 9:55 AM, "Dean Coclin"
<<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:Dean_Coclin@symantec.com">Dean_Coclin@symantec.com</a>>
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.8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Ben-I think
it may be worthwhile to convene another session of the current
PAG<br>
to come up with a recommendation on how to handle the
discrepancies discussed.<br>
I don't think it benefits the forum or the public to have
different<br>
interpretations of exclusion notice validities and hence I
would recommend the<br>
PAG work on this as a final item.<br>
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Dean<br>
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From: Gervase Markham [mailto:<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:gerv@mozilla.org">gerv@mozilla.org</a>]<br>
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<div class="quoted-text">Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2016 1:51 PM<br>
To: Dean Coclin <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:Dean_Coclin@symantec.com">Dean_Coclin@symantec.com</a>>;
CABFPub <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
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Subject: Re: [cabfpub] IPR Exclusion notices<br>
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<div class="elided-text">On 03/05/16 18:11, Dean Coclin wrote:<br>
> Gerv,<br>
> I think you make my point by using the word, "seems" in
front of both<br>
> conclusions that you draw.<br>
<br>
Sorry, I was being British and understating. My point is
that it doesn't seem<br>
that the rules were ambiguous.<br>
<br>
> Why force participants to draw inexact conclusions when
we can easily<br>
> fix this with a ballot.<br>
<br>
If you want to fix this with a ballot, without saying I
support such a move,<br>
the best ballot would be the most limited - the one which
rules on precisely<br>
the two disclosures which are in question.<br>
<br>
> I'm actually surprised that our IPR policy, given past
and numerous<br>
> discussions about making all things CA/B Forum public,
only says that<br>
> the exclusion notice has to be provided to the Chair.
Am I the only<br>
> one amazed by that? Am I misinterpreting something?<br>
<br>
It is a little surprising, but the CAB Forum has been on a
journey towards<br>
greater transparency, and sometimes the consequences of rare
things are<br>
missed.<br>
<br>
Gerv<br>
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