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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Adding some history:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">The number of certlint findings that Peter Bowen published back in November support Rick’s argument that we really aren’t getting along without this:
<a href="https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1lJt-1tkgKcbw5woEr4-tcpqB-M-HKwjFNSdX2jla2EU/edit?usp=sharing">
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1lJt-1tkgKcbw5woEr4-tcpqB-M-HKwjFNSdX2jla2EU/edit?usp=sharing</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">This is part of a long thread in which it is suggested that IP addresses be placed in multiple CN entries and that this problem should be resolved by the CAB Forum:
<a href="https://groups.google.com/d/topic/mozilla.dev.security.policy/Av6oZxbjvB4/discussion">
https://groups.google.com/d/topic/mozilla.dev.security.policy/Av6oZxbjvB4/discussion</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">The discussion goes back to at least August, including this post in which Ryan states that CAs can make this work without violating any RFCs, but only if the certificate doesn’t
also contain any hostnames: <a href="https://cabforum.org/pipermail/public/2015-August/005851.html">
https://cabforum.org/pipermail/public/2015-August/005851.html</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">I would like to see more discussion and a clear resolution to this issue.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Rick - I will endorse your ballot.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Thanks,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Wayne<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> public-bounces@cabforum.org [mailto:public-bounces@cabforum.org]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Rick Andrews<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, April 15, 2016 4:46 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Richard Barnes <rbarnes@mozilla.com><br>
<b>Cc:</b> public@cabforum.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [cabfpub] Proposed new ballot on IP Addresses in SANs<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#44546A">Richard, some of us CAs have “gotten along” by issuing certs that violate this part of the BRs. Given that customers can only get certs that work in Windows if
we violate this part of the BRs, and given that Microsoft isn’t able or willing to patch all old versions of Windows to address this, I’d like to legalize what we’ve been forced to do.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#44546A">-Rick<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> Richard Barnes [<a href="mailto:rbarnes@mozilla.com">mailto:rbarnes@mozilla.com</a>]
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<b>Sent:</b> Friday, April 15, 2016 3:43 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Rick Andrews <<a href="mailto:Rick_Andrews@symantec.com">Rick_Andrews@symantec.com</a>><br>
<b>Cc:</b> <a href="mailto:public@cabforum.org">public@cabforum.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [cabfpub] Proposed new ballot on IP Addresses in SANs<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in">Rick: This seems pretty abusive. Given that apparently you've gotten along without this so far, what's the compelling use case?<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in">On Fri, Apr 15, 2016 at 6:09 PM, Rick Andrews <<a href="mailto:Rick_Andrews@symantec.com" target="_blank">Rick_Andrews@symantec.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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It’s come to our attention that all versions of Windows prior to Windows 10<br>
cannot handle SANs of type IPAddress. Those older versions correctly handle<br>
IP addresses in SANs if they are of type dNSName. Jody from Microsoft has<br>
confirmed this.<br>
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I’d like to propose a ballot to allow IP addresses in SANs of type dNSName<br>
to allow for this. Jody has said he would endorse. I need another endorser.<br>
The proposed change is this (added text between + signs):<br>
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7.1.4.2.1 Subject Alternative Name Extension<br>
Each entry MUST be either a dNSName containing the Fully<span style="font-family:"Cambria Math",serif">‐</span>Qualified Domain<br>
Name +or the IP address of a server,+ or an iPAddress containing the IP<br>
address of a server<br>
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<span class="hoenzb">-Rick</span><br>
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