<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><div class="">Dean,</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">In section 2.2 of the bylaws, (e) says "the calculation of item 6”. However there is no item 6. I’m guessing that should be “item (f)”. I’m also not clear in item (g) whether “participated” includes votes not considered as per (e). Has there ever been a ballot which only passed quorum due to abstentions? Or is abstention not counted as “participation”?</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Thanks,</div><div class="">Peter</div><br class=""><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Mar 18, 2016, at 11:22 AM, Dean Coclin <<a href="mailto:Dean_Coclin@symantec.com" class="">Dean_Coclin@symantec.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div class="WordSection1" style="page: WordSection1; font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;"><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class="">With the tentative endorsements by Trend and Mozilla, the ballot reads as follows:<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=""> </span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Background:<o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Section 2.1 (a)(1) says that Issuing CAs “actively issue certificates to Web servers…”<o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Section 2.1(b) of the bylaws lists the items needed in a membership application by CAs.<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">But that section does not ask the CA applicant to provide a 3<sup class="">rd</sup><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>party website where the CA/B Forum can validate that they are actively issuing certs to web servers. We do however ask the applicant this question, after they have submitted their application. It would be helpful to have this in the bylaws so we don’t have to go back and ask every time.<o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Specific change:<o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Add under 2.1(b)<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">(7) The URL of at least one third party website that<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><s class="">is using</s><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class="">includes<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>a certificate<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><s class="">from</s><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class="">issued by<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>the<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class="">Applicant</span><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><s class="">CA</s><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><s class="">which can be examined by Forum members<span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></s><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class="">in the certificate chain.</span><o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=""> </span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class="">Any other comments?<br class=""><br class="">Dean<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=""> </span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=""> </span></div><div class=""><div style="border-style: solid none none; border-top-color: rgb(225, 225, 225); border-top-width: 1pt; padding: 3pt 0in 0in;" class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><b class="">From:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:public-bounces@cabforum.org" style="color: rgb(149, 79, 114); text-decoration: underline;" class="">public-bounces@cabforum.org</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>[<a href="mailto:public-bounces@cabforum.org" style="color: rgb(149, 79, 114); text-decoration: underline;" class="">mailto:public-bounces@cabforum.org</a>]<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><b class="">On Behalf Of<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Dean Coclin<br class=""><b class="">Sent:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Thursday, March 17, 2016 11:29 AM<br class=""><b class="">To:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>CABFPub <<a href="mailto:public@cabforum.org" style="color: rgb(149, 79, 114); text-decoration: underline;" class="">public@cabforum.org</a>><br class=""><b class="">Subject:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>[cabfpub] Pre-ballot on membership requirement update<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">I am looking for 2 endorsers for the following:<o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Background:<o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Section 2.1 (a)(1) says that Issuing CAs “actively issue certificates to Web servers…”<o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Section 2.1(b) of the bylaws lists the items needed in a membership application by CAs.<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">But that section does not ask the CA applicant to provide a 3<sup class="">rd</sup><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>party website where the CA/B Forum can validate that they are actively issuing certs to web servers. We do however ask the applicant this question, after they have submitted their application. It would be helpful to have this in the bylaws so we don’t have to go back and ask every time.<o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Specific change:<o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Add under 2.1(b)<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">(7) The URL of at least one third party website that<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><s class="">is using</s><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class="">includes<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>a certificate<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><s class="">from</s><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class="">issued by<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>the<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class="">Applicant</span><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><s class="">CA</s><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><s class="">which can be examined by Forum members<span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></s><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class="">in the certificate chain.</span><o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Thanks,<br class="">Dean<o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div></div><span style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">_______________________________________________</span><br style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><span style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">Public mailing list</span><br style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><a href="mailto:Public@cabforum.org" style="color: rgb(149, 79, 114); text-decoration: underline; font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class="">Public@cabforum.org</a><br style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><a href="https://cabforum.org/mailman/listinfo/public" style="color: rgb(149, 79, 114); text-decoration: underline; font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class="">https://cabforum.org/mailman/listinfo/public</a></div></blockquote></div><br class=""></body></html>