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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>Yes, 6 means f.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>Abstentions count as participation for purposes of g.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>Adding Kirk to clarify as he wrote this.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> Peter Bowen [mailto:pzb@amzn.com] <br><b>Sent:</b> Saturday, March 26, 2016 6:15 PM<br><b>To:</b> Dean Coclin <Dean_Coclin@symantec.com><br><b>Cc:</b> CABFPub <public@cabforum.org><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [cabfpub] Pre-ballot on membership requirement update<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>Dean,<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>In section 2.2 of the bylaws, (e) says "the calculation of item 6”. However there is no item 6. I’m guessing that should be “item (f)”. I’m also not clear in item (g) whether “participated” includes votes not considered as per (e). Has there ever been a ballot which only passed quorum due to abstentions? Or is abstention not counted as “participation”?<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Thanks,<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Peter<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Mar 18, 2016, at 11:22 AM, Dean Coclin <<a href="mailto:Dean_Coclin@symantec.com">Dean_Coclin@symantec.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>With the tentative endorsements by Trend and Mozilla, the ballot reads as follows:</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'> </span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Background:<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Section 2.1 (a)(1) says that Issuing CAs “actively issue certificates to Web servers…”<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Section 2.1(b) of the bylaws lists the items needed in a membership application by CAs.<span class=apple-converted-space> </span><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>But that section does not ask the CA applicant to provide a 3<sup>rd</sup><span class=apple-converted-space> </span>party website where the CA/B Forum can validate that they are actively issuing certs to web servers. We do however ask the applicant this question, after they have submitted their application. It would be helpful to have this in the bylaws so we don’t have to go back and ask every time.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Specific change:<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Add under 2.1(b)<span class=apple-converted-space> </span><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>(7) The URL of at least one third party website that<span class=apple-converted-space> </span><s>is using</s><span class=apple-converted-space> </span><span style='color:#1F497D'>includes<span class=apple-converted-space> </span></span>a certificate<span class=apple-converted-space> </span><s>from</s><span class=apple-converted-space> </span><span style='color:#1F497D'>issued by<span class=apple-converted-space> </span></span>the<span class=apple-converted-space> </span><span style='color:#1F497D'>Applicant</span><span class=apple-converted-space> </span><s>CA</s><span class=apple-converted-space> </span><s>which can be examined by Forum members<span class=apple-converted-space><span style='color:#1F497D'> </span></span></s><span style='color:#1F497D'>in the certificate chain.</span><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'> </span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>Any other comments?<br><br>Dean</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'> </span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'> </span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><div><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>From:</span></b><span class=apple-converted-space><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> </span></span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><a href="mailto:public-bounces@cabforum.org"><span style='color:#954F72'>public-bounces@cabforum.org</span></a><span class=apple-converted-space> </span>[<a href="mailto:public-bounces@cabforum.org"><span style='color:#954F72'>mailto:public-bounces@cabforum.org</span></a>]<span class=apple-converted-space> </span><b>On Behalf Of<span class=apple-converted-space> </span></b>Dean Coclin<br><b>Sent:</b><span class=apple-converted-space> </span>Thursday, March 17, 2016 11:29 AM<br><b>To:</b><span class=apple-converted-space> </span>CABFPub <<a href="mailto:public@cabforum.org"><span style='color:#954F72'>public@cabforum.org</span></a>><br><b>Subject:</b><span class=apple-converted-space> </span>[cabfpub] Pre-ballot on membership requirement update<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>I am looking for 2 endorsers for the following:<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Background:<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Section 2.1 (a)(1) says that Issuing CAs “actively issue certificates to Web servers…”<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Section 2.1(b) of the bylaws lists the items needed in a membership application by CAs.<span class=apple-converted-space> </span><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>But that section does not ask the CA applicant to provide a 3<sup>rd</sup><span class=apple-converted-space> </span>party website where the CA/B Forum can validate that they are actively issuing certs to web servers. We do however ask the applicant this question, after they have submitted their application. It would be helpful to have this in the bylaws so we don’t have to go back and ask every time.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Specific change:<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Add under 2.1(b)<span class=apple-converted-space> </span><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>(7) The URL of at least one third party website that<span class=apple-converted-space> </span><s>is using</s><span class=apple-converted-space> </span><span style='color:#1F497D'>includes<span class=apple-converted-space> </span></span>a certificate<span class=apple-converted-space> </span><s>from</s><span class=apple-converted-space> </span><span style='color:#1F497D'>issued by<span class=apple-converted-space> </span></span>the<span class=apple-converted-space> </span><span style='color:#1F497D'>Applicant</span><span class=apple-converted-space> </span><s>CA</s><span class=apple-converted-space> </span><s>which can be examined by Forum members<span class=apple-converted-space><span style='color:#1F497D'> </span></span></s><span style='color:#1F497D'>in the certificate chain.</span><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Thanks,<br>Dean<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'>_______________________________________________<br>Public mailing list<br></span><a href="mailto:Public@cabforum.org"><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#954F72'>Public@cabforum.org</span></a><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'><br></span><a href="https://cabforum.org/mailman/listinfo/public"><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#954F72'>https://cabforum.org/mailman/listinfo/public</span></a><o:p></o:p></p></div></blockquote></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></body></html>