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    Doug, in similar cases a standard (like BR) would list the
    referenced/incorporated requirements/rules under the "Normative
    documents" section.<br>
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    Maybe we should add this to BRs?<br>
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    Thanks,<br>
    M.D. <br>
    <br>
    your question leads to another another question: should we list
    those external documents that have "normative" impact on BRs<br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 2/25/2016 10:30 PM, Doug Beattie
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        <p class="MsoNormal"><a moz-do-not-send="true"
            name="_MailEndCompose"><span style="color:#1F497D">Good
              questions Jeremy.
              <o:p></o:p></span></a></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">I hate to ask,
            but is rfc 5019 another RFC that must be met in order to be
            BR compliant, and will any errors there be warnings or full
            audit findings?  There are a lot of rules about cache values
            which we might not be all compliant with.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">               
          </span><a moz-do-not-send="true"
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              <p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b>
                <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:public-bounces@cabforum.org">public-bounces@cabforum.org</a>
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                <b>On Behalf Of </b>Jeremy Rowley<br>
                <b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, February 24, 2016 1:56 PM<br>
                <b>To:</b> <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:public@cabforum.org">public@cabforum.org</a><br>
                <b>Subject:</b> [cabfpub] RFC5280<o:p></o:p></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal">I’ve been playing around with Peter
            Bowen’s certlint (an excellent tool) and, looking at the
            cert universe as a whole, there are some noticeable issues
            with the BRs and RFC 5280 that I though merited a public CAB
            Forum discussion.  Some of this is likely me not knowing the
            entire history of 5280, so I appreciated any explanation. If
            there’s exceptions we would like to make to RFC5280, we
            should probably also push a bis with IETF at the same time.
            <o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal">Here’s what I’m noticing are common
            issues:<o:p></o:p></p>
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                "Times New Roman"">     
              </span></span><!--[endif]-->Org names, common names,  and
            address fields are limited to 64 characters. Very few
            international companies can comply with this restriction.
            It’s even worse if you are converting an IDN to a printable
            string.  I don’t think any browsers limit this to 64
            characters?  Is there a strong objection to permitting
            longer strings in these fields?<o:p></o:p></p>
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              style="mso-list:Ignore">2)<span style="font:7.0pt
                "Times New Roman"">     
              </span></span><!--[endif]-->keyAgreement isn’t
            specifically prohibited in the BRs or 5280. However,
            keyAgreement should no longer be used in ECC certs because
            of security issues as explained by Ryan Sleevi in previous
            emails . We should update the BRs to prohibit keyAgreement.<o:p></o:p></p>
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              style="mso-list:Ignore">3)<span style="font:7.0pt
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              </span></span><!--[endif]-->Years ago, we discussed that
            2047 bit certs were equivalent to 2048 bit certs (although
            the discussion may have occurred solely on the Mozilla
            mailing list).  We should codify this exception.
            <o:p></o:p></p>
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              style="mso-list:Ignore">4)<span style="font:7.0pt
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              </span></span><!--[endif]-->Why is teletext string not
            permissible on a lot of these fields? I also don’t
            understand the weird requirement to use printablestring over
            UTRF8 for some fields. Specifically, requiring a printable
            string for subject:serialNumber could cause issues with the
            EV Guidelines if a country uses an IDN as part of their
            registration number.  <o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal">Thoughts?<o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal">Jeremy<o:p></o:p></p>
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