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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>I think it will be 162 unless Ben has reserved that for one of the Policy ballots.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>Ben?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>Thanks<br>Dean<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> public-bounces@cabforum.org [mailto:public-bounces@cabforum.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Peter Bowen<br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, February 02, 2016 7:15 AM<br><b>To:</b> CABFPub <public@cabforum.org><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [cabfpub] Sunset for exceptions?<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>I think more than enough full members have agreed to propose and endorse:<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Richard Barnes of Mozilla<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Eddy Nigg of StartCom<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Jeremy Rowley of DigiCert<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Adriano Santoni of Actalis<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Ryan Sleevi of Google<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Can whoever doles out ballot numbers please assign a number and can the review period please be initiated?<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Thanks,<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Peter<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Jan 19, 2016, at 10:27 PM, Peter Bowen <<a href="mailto:pzb@amzn.com">pzb@amzn.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>How about this?<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Ballot XXX - Sunset of exceptions<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>The following motion has been proposed by ______________ of _________ and endorsed by __________ of _________ and _________ of _________.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>-----BEGIN MOTION-----<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>1) Modify section 6.1.7 of the Baseline Requirements to add items 5(f) and 5(g) which read:<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>f. The CA signs the Subscriber Certificate on or before June 30, 2016 <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>g. The notBefore field in the Subscriber Certificate has a date on or before June 30, 2016<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>2) Modify section 6.3.2 of the Baseline Requirements to replace the words "Beyond 1 April 2015" with the words "Until 30 June 2016"<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>-----END MOTION-----<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Jan 19, 2016, at 10:06 PM, Eddy Nigg <<a href="mailto:eddy_nigg@startcom.org">eddy_nigg@startcom.org</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;background:white'>Dito.</span><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'><br style='orphans: auto;text-align:start;widows: auto;-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;word-spacing:0px'><br></span><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'>On 01/20/2016 01:25 AM, Jeremy Rowley wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt;orphans: auto;text-align:start;widows: auto;-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;word-spacing:0px'><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>I’m happy to make the motion or endorse removal of these exceptions.<span class=apple-converted-space> </span></span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><a name="_MailEndCompose"><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'> </span></a><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>From:</span></b><span class=apple-converted-space><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> </span></span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><a href="mailto:public-bounces@cabforum.org"><span style='color:purple'>public-bounces@cabforum.org</span></a><span class=apple-converted-space> </span>[<a href="mailto:public-bounces@cabforum.org"><span style='color:purple'>mailto:public-bounces@cabforum.org</span></a>]<span class=apple-converted-space> </span><b>On Behalf Of<span class=apple-converted-space> </span></b>Peter Bowen<br><b>Sent:</b><span class=apple-converted-space> </span>Tuesday, January 19, 2016 4:09 PM<br><b>To:</b><span class=apple-converted-space> </span>Ryan Sleevi<br><b>Cc:</b><span class=apple-converted-space> </span>CABFPub<br><b>Subject:</b><span class=apple-converted-space> </span>Re: [cabfpub] Sunset for exceptions?</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'>On Jan 19, 2016, at 2:57 PM, Ryan Sleevi <<a href="mailto:sleevi@google.com"><span style='color:purple'>sleevi@google.com</span></a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'>On Tue, Jan 19, 2016 at 11:27 AM, Peter Bowen <<a href="mailto:pzb@amzn.com" target="_blank"><span style='color:purple'>pzb@amzn.com</span></a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'>The BRs contain at least two allowances for “legacy” certificate issuance:<br><br>6.1.7 (5) allows direct issuance of subscriber certificates from a root CA<br><br>6.3.2 allows certificates with validity periods longer than 39 months<br><br>Are these still needed? Are CAs relying upon these exceptions? If not, does it make sense to ballot to remove these from the BRs?<o:p></o:p></p></div></blockquote><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'> <o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'>Peter, I'd be happy to support a ballot if you want to propose one. That tends to be the only way to get timely responses - the discussion period of the ballot. <o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div></div></div></div></blockquote><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'> <o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'>As an Associate Member, I cannot propose ballots. Only those who have a full period-of-time audit can propose ballots. Or at least that is my read of the bylaws.<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'><br><br><br><o:p></o:p></span></p><pre style='background:white'>_______________________________________________<o:p></o:p></pre><pre style='background:white'>Public mailing list<o:p></o:p></pre><pre style='background:white'><a href="mailto:Public@cabforum.org"><span style='color:purple'>Public@cabforum.org</span></a><o:p></o:p></pre><pre style='background:white'><a href="https://cabforum.org/mailman/listinfo/public"><span style='color:purple'>https://cabforum.org/mailman/listinfo/public</span></a><o:p></o:p></pre></blockquote><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'>--<span class=apple-converted-space> </span><o:p></o:p></span></p><table class=MsoNormalTable border=0 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=0><tr><td colspan=2 style='padding:0in 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal>Regards <o:p></o:p></p></td></tr><tr><td colspan=2 style='padding:0in 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></td></tr><tr><td style='padding:0in 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal>Signer: <o:p></o:p></p></td><td style='padding:0in 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal>Eddy Nigg, COO/CTO<o:p></o:p></p></td></tr><tr><td style='padding:0in 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></td><td style='padding:0in 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><a href="http://www.startcom.org/"><span style='color:purple'>StartCom Ltd.</span></a><o:p></o:p></p></td></tr><tr><td style='padding:0in 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal>XMPP: <o:p></o:p></p></td><td style='padding:0in 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><a href="xmpp:startcom@startcom.org"><span style='color:purple'>startcom@startcom.org</span></a><o:p></o:p></p></td></tr><tr><td style='padding:0in 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal>Blog: <o:p></o:p></p></td><td style='padding:0in 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><a href="http://blog.startcom.org/"><span style='color:purple'>Join the Revolution!</span></a><o:p></o:p></p></td></tr><tr><td style='padding:0in 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal>Twitter: <o:p></o:p></p></td><td style='padding:0in 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><a href="http://twitter.com/eddy_nigg"><span style='color:purple'>Follow Me</span></a><o:p></o:p></p></td></tr><tr><td colspan=2 style='padding:0in 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></td></tr></table></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;background:white'>_______________________________________________</span><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'><br><span style='background:white'>Public mailing list</span><br></span><a href="mailto:Public@cabforum.org"><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:purple;background:white'>Public@cabforum.org</span></a><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'><br></span><a href="https://cabforum.org/mailman/listinfo/public"><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:purple;background:white'>https://cabforum.org/mailman/listinfo/public</span></a><o:p></o:p></p></div></blockquote></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal>_______________________________________________<br>Public mailing list<br><a href="mailto:Public@cabforum.org">Public@cabforum.org</a><br><a href="https://cabforum.org/mailman/listinfo/public">https://cabforum.org/mailman/listinfo/public</a><o:p></o:p></p></div></blockquote></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></body></html>