<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=windows-1252"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class="">How about this?<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><div class="">Ballot XXX - Sunset of exceptions</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">The following motion has been proposed by ______________ of _________ and endorsed by __________ of _________ and _________ of _________.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">-----BEGIN MOTION-----</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">1) Modify section 6.1.7 of the Baseline Requirements to add items 5(f) and 5(g) which read:</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">f. The CA signs the Subscriber Certificate on or before June 30, 2016 </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">g. The notBefore field in the Subscriber Certificate has a date on or before June 30, 2016</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">2) Modify section 6.3.2 of the Baseline Requirements to replace the words "Beyond 1 April 2015" with the words "Until 30 June 2016"</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">-----END MOTION-----</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Jan 19, 2016, at 10:06 PM, Eddy Nigg <<a href="mailto:eddy_nigg@startcom.org" class="">eddy_nigg@startcom.org</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><span style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">Dito.</span><br style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" class=""><br style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" class=""><div class="moz-cite-prefix" style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">On 01/20/2016 01:25 AM, Jeremy Rowley wrote:<br class=""></div><blockquote cite="mid:66bf9b00414646a8ab1171ff0699b1b3@EX2.corp.digicert.com" type="cite" style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" class=""><div class="WordSection1" style="page: WordSection1;"><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class="">I’m happy to make the motion or endorse removal of these exceptions.<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><a moz-do-not-send="true" name="_MailEndCompose" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=""> </span></a></div><div class=""><div style="border-style: solid none none; border-top-color: rgb(225, 225, 225); border-top-width: 1pt; padding: 3pt 0in 0in;" class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><b class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">From:</span></b><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:public-bounces@cabforum.org" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;">public-bounces@cabforum.org</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>[<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:public-bounces@cabforum.org" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;">mailto:public-bounces@cabforum.org</a>]<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><b class="">On Behalf Of<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Peter Bowen<br class=""><b class="">Sent:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Tuesday, January 19, 2016 4:09 PM<br class=""><b class="">To:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Ryan Sleevi<br class=""><b class="">Cc:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>CABFPub<br class=""><b class="">Subject:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: [cabfpub] Sunset for exceptions?<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class="">On Jan 19, 2016, at 2:57 PM, Ryan Sleevi <<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:sleevi@google.com" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">sleevi@google.com</a>> wrote:<o:p class=""></o:p></div><div class=""><blockquote style="margin-top: 5pt; margin-bottom: 5pt;" class=""><div class=""><div class=""><div class=""><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class="">On Tue, Jan 19, 2016 at 11:27 AM, Peter Bowen <<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:pzb@amzn.com" target="_blank" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">pzb@amzn.com</a>> wrote:<o:p class=""></o:p></div><blockquote style="border-style: none none none solid; border-left-color: rgb(204, 204, 204); border-left-width: 1pt; padding: 0in 0in 0in 6pt; margin-left: 4.8pt; margin-right: 0in;" class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class="">The BRs contain at least two allowances for “legacy” certificate issuance:<br class=""><br class="">6.1.7 (5) allows direct issuance of subscriber certificates from a root CA<br class=""><br class="">6.3.2 allows certificates with validity periods longer than 39 months<br class=""><br class="">Are these still needed? Are CAs relying upon these exceptions? If not, does it make sense to ballot to remove these from the BRs?<o:p class=""></o:p></div></blockquote><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class="">Peter, I'd be happy to support a ballot if you want to propose one. That tends to be the only way to get timely responses - the discussion period of the ballot. <o:p class=""></o:p></div></div></div></div></div></div></blockquote><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class="">As an Associate Member, I cannot propose ballots. Only those who have a full period-of-time audit can propose ballots. Or at least that is my read of the bylaws.<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div></div><br class=""><fieldset class="mimeAttachmentHeader"></fieldset><br class=""><pre wrap="" class="">_______________________________________________
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