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<p class="MsoNormal">I think Bruce makes a good point. <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">This might go faster and be more productive if the <u>concepts</u> for policy / security practice changes are put forward for discussion (or you can put forward the language you find in other documents for review). Once we get Forum support
(and any related issues are resolved), then it would make sense to fit the changes into new BR language.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">To use an extreme example, if NIST says passwords should be 26 characters long and changed daily, I think the Forum might say “That seems unnecessary for our needs. Let’s discuss the reasons for NIST’s recommendation, and see if there
are more appropriate changes for us.” <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> public-bounces@cabforum.org [mailto:public-bounces@cabforum.org]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Bruce Morton<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, September 10, 2015 2:32 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Dean Coclin; public@cabforum.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [cabfpub] Cert Policy Working Group activity<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Hi Dean,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Thanks for the update. I am a little concerned with the statement, “It became clear that adding best practices from these various documents to the new work product will serve to improve security for all CAs and
the ecosystem as a whole.” This sounds like policy changes. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">I am in favor of policy changes, if they mitigate an issue and if the specific policy change is discussed as to why we need the change, how it can be fixed, etc. I think an open discussion on each policy change
is required.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">I worry that the Policy Working Group will propose a change to the Baseline Requirements which will be hard to approve due to the extent of the policy changes. Our current process has been to change policy with
individual ballots for each change.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Please let me know if I am off base; otherwise, it would be great to have input from other CAs.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Thanks again, Bruce.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> <a href="mailto:public-bounces@cabforum.org">public-bounces@cabforum.org</a> [<a href="mailto:public-bounces@cabforum.org">mailto:public-bounces@cabforum.org</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Dean Coclin<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, September 10, 2015 4:49 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:public@cabforum.org">public@cabforum.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [cabfpub] Cert Policy Working Group activity<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">As many are aware the Cert Policy Working Group of the CA/B Forum has been working to transition the Baseline Requirements from the current format to RFC 3647 format. As part of this effort, which has taken quite a bit of time, it made
sense to pull in the Network Security Guidelines and merge them into the 3647 document.
<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Under the leadership of Ben Wilson, the working group is composed of a variety of people that have expertise in policy (CP/CPS), network security and CA operations. As part of this exercise, the group had the opportunity to review other
documents related to the various sections of the RFC that showcase best practices such as the draft NIST IR, WebTrust, ETSI and various vendor documentation. It became clear that adding best practices from these various documents to the new work product will
serve to improve security for all CAs and the ecosystem as a whole. <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">At our offsite meeting in Washington yesterday, the group made significant progress in reviewing the various sections of 3647 and inserting (upgrading) sections related to security areas (mostly operations). We still have a lot of work
to do but I just wanted to give folks an update and the opportunity to express any concerns.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">At this time, we are not merging the EV and BR documents but that is something under discussion.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">So to summarize:<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]>BRs and Net Sec will be in 1 document formatted to RFC 3647<o:p></o:p></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]>Areas not covered in BRs or NetSec (or inadequately covered) are being added or “beefed up” using authoritative sources<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Of course, once something is ready for review, the Working Group will publish it to this list.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><br>
Dean<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Dean Coclin<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Chair CA/B Forum<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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