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<p>GoDaddy votes yes.</p>
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<div id="divRplyFwdMsg" dir="ltr"><font face="Calibri, sans-serif" color="#000000" style="font-size:11pt"><b>From:</b> public-bounces@cabforum.org <public-bounces@cabforum.org> on behalf of kirk_hall@trendmicro.com <kirk_hall@trendmicro.com><br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, July 03, 2015 9:11 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Sigbjørn Vik; public@cabforum.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [cabfpub] Final editorial revision to Ballot 149 - voting begins UTC 18:00 today</font>
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Good idea, Siggy.  Because this is editorial only, I'm changing the FINAL ballot to reflect these changes (only requiring audits and websites using the CA's certificates from CA applicants).</p>
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So the FINAL ballot (July 3, 2015) reads as below, and attached.  VOTING BEGINS AT 18:00 UTC TODAY (two hours from now).</p>
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<span style="color:black; background:white">Kirk Hall of Trend Micro made the following motion and Jody Cloutier of Microsoft, Wayne Thayer of GoDaddy, and Dean Coclin of Symantec endorsed it:</span></p>
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<b>Ballot 149:  Revisions to Forum Membership Bylaw 2.1 (July 3, 2015)</b></p>
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<b>2.1  Qualif<span style="letter-spacing:-.1pt">y</span>ing<span style="letter-spacing:-.55pt">
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(a)<span style="letter-spacing:1.35pt"> </span>CA/Browser<span style="letter-spacing:-.6pt">
</span>Forum<span style="letter-spacing:-.3pt"> </span>m<span style="letter-spacing:.05pt">e</span>mbers<span style="letter-spacing:-.45pt">
</span>shall<span style="letter-spacing:-.3pt"> </span>meet<span style="letter-spacing:-.25pt">
</span>at<span style="letter-spacing:-.1pt"> </span>least<span style="letter-spacing:-.25pt">
</span>one<span style="letter-spacing:-.2pt"> </span>of<span style="letter-spacing:-.1pt">
</span>the<span style="letter-spacing:-.15pt"> </span><span style="letter-spacing:-.05pt">f</span>ollowing<span style="letter-spacing:-.45pt">
</span>cri<span style="letter-spacing:-.05pt">t</span>eria.</p>
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</span>CA:</u><span style="letter-spacing:-.25pt"> </span>The<span style="letter-spacing:-.2pt">
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</span>WebTrust<span style="letter-spacing:-.5pt"> </span>f<span style="letter-spacing:-.05pt">o</span>r<span style="letter-spacing:-.15pt">
</span>CAs audit,<span style="letter-spacing:-.25pt"> </span>or<span style="letter-spacing:-.1pt">
</span>ETSI<span style="letter-spacing:-.25pt"> </span>102042<span style="letter-spacing:-.35pt">
</span>or<span style="letter-spacing:-.1pt"> </span>ETSI<span style="letter-spacing:-.25pt">
</span>101456 audit<span style="letter-spacing:-.25pt"> </span>report,<span style="letter-spacing:-.35pt">
</span>prepared<span style="letter-spacing:-.45pt"> </span>by<span style="letter-spacing:-.1pt">
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</span>actively<span style="letter-spacing:-.35pt"> </span>issues certificat<span style="letter-spacing:-.05pt">e</span>s<span style="letter-spacing:-.5pt">
</span><span style="letter-spacing:-.05pt">t</span>o<span style="letter-spacing:-.1pt">
</span>Web<span style="letter-spacing:-.25pt"> </span>servers<span style="letter-spacing:-.35pt">
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</span>from<span style="letter-spacing:-.2pt"> </span><span style="letter-spacing:-.05pt">t</span>he<span style="letter-spacing:-.15pt">
</span>Internet<span style="letter-spacing:-.4pt"> </span>using<span style="letter-spacing:-.25pt">
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</span>the<span style="letter-spacing:-.15pt"> </span>mainstream<span style="letter-spacing:-.55pt">
</span>browsers</s></i> <b><u>a browser created by a Browser member</u></b>.  <b>
<u>Applicants that are not actively issuing certificates but otherwise meet membership criteria may be granted Associate Member status under Bylaw Sec. 3.1 for a period of time to be designated by the Forum. 
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</span>member<span style="letter-spacing:-.4pt"> </span><span style="letter-spacing:.05pt">o</span>rganization<span style="letter-spacing:-.65pt">
</span>operates<span style="letter-spacing:-.45pt"> </span>a<span style="letter-spacing:-.05pt">
</span>certification<span style="letter-spacing:-.6pt"> </span><span style="letter-spacing:-.05pt">a</span>uthority<span style="letter-spacing:-.4pt">
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</span>f<span style="letter-spacing:-.05pt">o</span>r<span style="letter-spacing:-.15pt">
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</span>ETSI<span style="letter-spacing:-.25pt"> </span>102042<span style="letter-spacing:-.35pt">
</span>or<span style="letter-spacing:-.1pt"> </span>ETSI<span style="letter-spacing:-.25pt">
</span>101456 audit report<u>,</u><span style="letter-spacing:-.3pt"> </span>prepared<span style="letter-spacing:-.45pt">
</span>by<span style="letter-spacing:-.1pt"> </span>a<span style="letter-spacing:-.05pt">
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</span>CAs<span style="letter-spacing:-.2pt"> </span>that,<span style="letter-spacing:-.2pt">
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</span>servers<span style="letter-spacing:-.35pt"> </span>that<span style="letter-spacing:-.2pt">
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</span>from<span style="letter-spacing:-.2pt"> </span><span style="letter-spacing:-.05pt">t</span>he<span style="letter-spacing:-.15pt">
</span>Internet<span style="letter-spacing:-.4pt"> </span>using<span style="letter-spacing:-.25pt">
</span><i><s>any one<span style="letter-spacing:-.2pt"> </span>of<span style="letter-spacing:-.1pt">
</span>the<span style="letter-spacing:-.15pt"> </span>mainstream<span style="letter-spacing:-.55pt">
</span>browsers</s></i> <b><u>a browser created by a Browser member</u></b>.  <b>
<u>Applicants that are not actively issuing certificates but otherwise meet membership criteria may be granted Associate Member status under Bylaw Sec. 3.1 for a period of time to be designated by the Forum.
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</span>The<span style="letter-spacing:-.2pt"> </span>member<span style="letter-spacing:-.4pt">
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(b) Applicants should supply the following information:</p>
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(1) Confirmation that the applicant satisfies at least one of the membership criteria (and if it satisfies more than one, indication of the single category under which the applicant wishes to apply).</p>
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(<i><s>2) URL of the current qualifying performance audit report.</s></i></p>
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(<i><s>3</s></i>) ( <b><u>2</u></b>) The organization name, as you wish it to appear on the Forum Web site and in official Forum documents.</p>
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(<i><s>4</s></i>) (<b><u>3</u></b>) URL of the applicant's main Web site.</p>
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(<i><s>5</s></i>) (<b><u>4</u></b>) Names and email addresses of employees who will participate in the Forum mail list.
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(<i><s>6</s></i>) (<b><u>5</u></b>) Emergency contact information for security issues related to certificate trust.</p>
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<i><s>(7) Links or references to issued certificates that demonstrate compliance with all applicable certificate, CRL, and OCSP requirements.</s></i></p>
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<b><u>CA Applicants should supply the following additional information:</u></b></p>
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<b><u>(6) URL of the current qualifying performance audit report.</u></b></p>
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<b>(<u>7) Links or references to issued certificates that demonstrate compliance with all applicable certificate, CRL, and OCSP requirements.</u></b></p>
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<span style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"; color:black">-- Motion Ends --</span></p>
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<span style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"; color:black">The review period for this ballot shall commence at 18:00 UTC on June 26, 2015, and will close at 18:00 UTC on July 3, 2015. Unless the motion is withdrawn during the review period,
 the voting period will start immediately thereafter and will close at 18:00 UTC on July 10, 2015. Votes must be cast by posting an on-list reply to this thread.</span></p>
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<span style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"; color:black">A vote in favor of the motion must indicate a clear 'yes' in the response. A vote against must indicate a clear 'no' in the response. A vote to abstain must indicate a clear 'abstain'
 in the response. Unclear responses will not be counted. The latest vote received from any representative of a voting member before the close of the voting period will be counted. Voting members are listed here:<span> </span></span><a href="https://cabforum.org/members/" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;"><span style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"; border:none windowtext 1.0pt; padding:0in">https://cabforum.org/members/</span></a><span style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"; color:black"></span></p>
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<span style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"; color:black">In order for the motion to be adopted, two thirds or more of the votes cast by members in the CA category and greater than 50% of the votes cast by members in the browser category
 must be in favor. Also, at least seven members must participate in the ballot, either by voting in favor, voting against, or abstaining.</span></p>
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-----Original Message-----<br>
From: public-bounces@cabforum.org [mailto:public-bounces@cabforum.org] On Behalf Of Sigbjørn Vik<br>
Sent: Friday, July 03, 2015 2:31 AM<br>
To: public@cabforum.org<br>
Subject: Re: [cabfpub] Voting on Ballot 149 begins tomorrow</p>
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On 02-Jul-15 20:19, <a href="mailto:kirk_hall@trendmicro.com" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;">
<span style="color:windowtext; text-decoration:none">kirk_hall@trendmicro.com</span></a> wrote:</p>
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[...]</p>
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> (b) Applicants should supply the following information:</p>
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[...]</p>
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> *(_7) Links or references to issued certificates that demonstrate </p>
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> compliance with all applicable certificate, CRL, and OCSP </p>
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> requirements._*</p>
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This doesn't make any sense for browser applicants. Neither does the existing part (2), but with this addition this section becomes wronger.</p>
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How about a rewording to the following:</p>
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(b) Applicants should supply the following information:</p>
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(1)</p>
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(3)</p>
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(4)</p>
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(5)</p>
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(6)</p>
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CA applicants should additionally supply the following:</p>
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(2)</p>
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(7)</p>
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(Then renumber as necessary)</p>
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Sigbjørn Vik</p>
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Opera Software</p>
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