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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Thanks Ryan,
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">The definition of a Verified Legal Opinion and Verified Accountant Letter requires verification under 11.11.1 or 11.11.2 of the EV Guidelines, meaning the verification
process for the letter is built into the definition itself.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">For government entities, the working group decided that if we were permitting Private Organizations and Business Entities to use accountant letters, then government
entities should be permitted to do so as well. The inclusion of accountants was intentional.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Jeremy<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> Ryan Sleevi [mailto:sleevi@google.com]
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<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, May 14, 2015 11:31 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Jeremy Rowley<br>
<b>Cc:</b> public@cabforum.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [cabfpub] Verification of Legal Existence Ballot<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Thanks Jeremy for circulating this.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I've tried to respond inline below - I hope this doesn't screw up archive formatting.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Thu, May 14, 2015 at 8:50 AM, Jeremy Rowley <<a href="mailto:jeremy.rowley@digicert.com" target="_blank">jeremy.rowley@digicert.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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(2) <b>Government Entity Subjects</b>: <u>Unless verified under subsection (6), </u>
all items listed in Section 11.2.1(2) MUST either be verified directly with, or obtained directly from, one of the following: (i) a Qualified Government Information Source in the political subdivision in which such Government Entity operates; (ii) a superior
governing Government Entity in the same political subdivision as the Applicant (e.g. a Secretary of State may verify the legal existence of a specific State Department), or (iii) from a judge that is an active member of the federal, state or local judiciary
within that political subdivision<s>, or (iv) an attorney representing the Government Entity</s>.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">This modification does seem to lead to a weaker, more lax requirement compared to the existing language. That is, with the new definition of Verified Professional Letter, the Accountant or Legal Opinion may be from an entity different than
the Government Entity (or so it seems).<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I didn't see where this requirement was preserved, and perhaps it's there in intent, but not letter.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">This also changes the set of acceptable documents from being a "Verified Legal Opinion" to *also* accepting a Verified Accountant Letter for this validation. Is that intentional? What are the implications here of adding another means to
verify for government entity subjects?<o:p></o:p></p>
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(B) Obtaining an Independent Confirmation From the Applicant (as described in Section 11.10.4), or a
<u>Verified Professional Letter</u> <s>Verified Legal Opinion (as described in Section 11.10.1), or a Verified Accountant Letter (as described in Section 11.10.2)</s> verifying that the Contract Signer and/or the Certificate Approver, as applicable, is either
an employee or has otherwise been appointed as an agent of the Applicant.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">This change (and related) all strike mention of Sections 11.10.1/11.10.2, and the new definitional introduction of Verified Professional Letter doesn't strictly establish that the Verified Legal Opinion / Verified Accountant Letter must
comply with the requirements.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">This is arguably a pedantic distinction, since it should be "obvious" that Sections 11.10.1/11.10.2 apply, but it's worth highlighting that it is a semantic change. (Yes, a number of other sections referred to Verified Legal Opinion/Verified
Accountant Letter w/o referring to the section cross-reference, but now we have *nothing* that cross-references, if this ballot goes forward)<o:p></o:p></p>
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