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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">I guess my point is – who is checking to make sure a subCA is either constrained, or covered by someone’s audit?
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Given that the browsers run the root programs and collect the audits, I was wondering if they knew whether all the subCAs listed below are covered by an audit. That may
be the only way to get this practice stopped.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> Ryan Sleevi [mailto:sleevi@google.com]
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<b>Sent:</b> Monday, March 23, 2015 10:22 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Kirk Hall (RD-US)<br>
<b>Cc:</b> CABFPub<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [cabfpub] FW: Bylaw update proposal<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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On Mar 23, 2015 10:09 PM, "<a href="mailto:kirk_hall@trendmicro.com">kirk_hall@trendmicro.com</a>" <<a href="mailto:kirk_hall@trendmicro.com">kirk_hall@trendmicro.com</a>> wrote:<br>
> That’s a question for the browsers – Browsers, what do you say?<o:p></o:p></p>
<p>I'm not sure why this is a question for browsers - audit scope is audit scope. Some CAs include subordinate CAs in scope of their own audits - such as when they control and operate the infrastructure - other CAs don't.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p>Mozilla Root Inclusion Policy (Sections 8 and 10) require that unconstrained subordinate CAs be disclosed and audited. Mozilla CA communications from May 2014 [1] affirmed this.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p>I would expect that all of the CAs fall in one of the two buckets, and it's up to their issuer to decide.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p>From the point of view of program operation, it does not make a difference whether or not that subordinate is operated by a third party - have audit and fill out the form, will travel.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p>[1] <a href="https://wiki.mozilla.org/CA:Communications#May_2014_Responses">https://wiki.mozilla.org/CA:Communications#May_2014_Responses</a><o:p></o:p></p>
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