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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body bgcolor=white lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Thanks, Erwann. I missed that.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Two questions for Anoosh:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>1)<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>What’s the rationale for 1/1/2016? I’m almost certain that Tom said it wouldn’t be required until 1/1/2017.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>2)<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Echoing Bruce’s comment, is there any way that you can pull all the details together in a more understandable format? IMO, I shouldn’t have to read through all 5 pages of comments to see what the policy is. It’s great that Microsoft accepts comments (and answers them!) but if someone posts a question it probably means that the policy statement is lacking, and should be updated.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>-Rick<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext'> public-bounces@cabforum.org [mailto:public-bounces@cabforum.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Erwann Abalea<br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, March 23, 2015 9:05 AM<br><b>To:</b> public@cabforum.org<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [cabfpub] Updates to Microsoft SHA-1 deprecation<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><a href="http://blogs.technet.com/b/pki/archive/2013/11/12/sha1-deprecation-policy.aspx#pi47623=2">http://blogs.technet.com/b/pki/archive/2013/11/12/sha1-deprecation-policy.aspx#pi47623=2</a><br><br>CRLs will be SHA2-signed by 01/01/2016. See responses by "Amerk [MSFT]".<br><br><br><o:p></o:p></p><pre style='margin-left:.5in'>-- <o:p></o:p></pre><pre style='margin-left:.5in'>Erwann ABALEA<o:p></o:p></pre><pre style='margin-left:.5in'><o:p> </o:p></pre><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'>Le 23/03/2015 16:57, Rick Andrews a écrit :<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Bruce,</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>At the Beijing meeting, Tom Albertson said that by 1/1/2017, even CRLs for SHA-1 roots had to be signed with SHA-2. </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Anoosh, I assume that’s still Microsoft’s policy.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>-Rick</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> <a href="mailto:public-bounces@cabforum.org">public-bounces@cabforum.org</a> [<a href="mailto:public-bounces@cabforum.org">mailto:public-bounces@cabforum.org</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Bruce Morton<br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, March 23, 2015 7:40 AM<br><b>To:</b> Anoosh Saboori<br><b>Cc:</b> CABFPub<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [cabfpub] Updates to Microsoft SHA-1 deprecation</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Hi Anoosh,</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>I might be the only one, but I am a little confused regarding the Windows hashing requirements. It would be great if there was a matrix to show/confirm your requirements per Windows version.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>I am thinking that the following must be covered:</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:1.5in;text-indent:-.25in'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Symbol;color:#1F497D'>·</span><span style='font-size:7.0pt;color:#1F497D'> </span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>SSL certificates</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:1.5in;text-indent:-.25in'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Symbol;color:#1F497D'>·</span><span style='font-size:7.0pt;color:#1F497D'> </span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Code Signing certificates</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:1.5in;text-indent:-.25in'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Symbol;color:#1F497D'>·</span><span style='font-size:7.0pt;color:#1F497D'> </span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>S/MIME certificates</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:1.5in;text-indent:-.25in'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Symbol;color:#1F497D'>·</span><span style='font-size:7.0pt;color:#1F497D'> </span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Time-stamping certificates</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:1.5in;text-indent:-.25in'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Symbol;color:#1F497D'>·</span><span style='font-size:7.0pt;color:#1F497D'> </span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>OCSP signing certificates</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:1.5in;text-indent:-.25in'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Symbol;color:#1F497D'>·</span><span style='font-size:7.0pt;color:#1F497D'> </span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Code signing signatures</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:1.5in;text-indent:-.25in'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Symbol;color:#1F497D'>·</span><span style='font-size:7.0pt;color:#1F497D'> </span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Time-stamp signatures</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:1.5in;text-indent:-.25in'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Symbol;color:#1F497D'>·</span><span style='font-size:7.0pt;color:#1F497D'> </span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>CRL signatures</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:1.5in;text-indent:-.25in'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Symbol;color:#1F497D'>·</span><span style='font-size:7.0pt;color:#1F497D'> </span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>OCSP signatures</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:1.5in;text-indent:-.25in'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Symbol;color:#1F497D'>·</span><span style='font-size:7.0pt;color:#1F497D'> </span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>there must be more …</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>An issue that I want to understand is, since some certificates can be SHA-1, can the CRL/OCSP response be signed with a SHA-1 certificate? Can the signature be SHA-1? We would need to understand this for both root and issuing CAs.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>If we can nail this down, then it will be easier to draft a spec for our implementation teams.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Thanks, Bruce.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> Anoosh Saboori [<a href="mailto:ansaboor@microsoft.com">mailto:ansaboor@microsoft.com</a>] <br><b>Sent:</b> Saturday, March 21, 2015 8:29 PM<br><b>To:</b> Bruce Morton<br><b>Cc:</b> CABFPub<br><b>Subject:</b> RE: [cabfpub] Updates to Microsoft SHA-1 deprecation</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Windows enforcement dates (i.e., date at which SHA-1 certificates will be rejected by Windows) only apply to SSL and code signing certificates. All other types of certificates will be rejected on Windows side when SHA-1 pre-image attacks are deemed feasible by Microsoft.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Anoosh</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'><a name="_MailEndCompose"></a><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> Bruce Morton [<a href="mailto:bruce.morton@entrust.com">mailto:bruce.morton@entrust.com</a>] <br><b>Sent:</b> Friday, March 20, 2015 6:47 PM<br><b>To:</b> Anoosh Saboori<br><b>Cc:</b> CABFPub<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [cabfpub] Updates to Microsoft SHA-1 deprecation</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'> <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'>Hi Anoosh,<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'>Thank you for the update.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'>I don't think the policy for S/MIME certificates has been stated. I see some discussion in the comments. Could you also advise how the SHA-1 deprecation policy applies to S/MIME certificates. <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:1.0in'>Thanks, Bruce.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:1.0in'><br>On Mar 20, 2015, at 8:57 PM, Anoosh Saboori <<a href="mailto:ansaboor@microsoft.com">ansaboor@microsoft.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Hello,</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>I would like to inform you that Microsoft has made update to its SHA-1 deprecation policy to accommodate developers targeting Vista/Server 2008. Please see below.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><a href="http://blogs.technet.com/b/pki/archive/2013/11/12/sha1-deprecation-policy.aspx">http://blogs.technet.com/b/pki/archive/2013/11/12/sha1-deprecation-policy.aspx</a> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Anoosh</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div></blockquote><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'>_______________________________________________<br>Public mailing list<br><a href="mailto:Public@cabforum.org">Public@cabforum.org</a><br><a href="https://cabforum.org/mailman/listinfo/public">https://cabforum.org/mailman/listinfo/public</a><o:p></o:p></p></div></blockquote><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><br><br><br><o:p></o:p></p><pre style='margin-left:.5in'>_______________________________________________<o:p></o:p></pre><pre style='margin-left:.5in'>Public mailing list<o:p></o:p></pre><pre style='margin-left:.5in'><a href="mailto:Public@cabforum.org">Public@cabforum.org</a><o:p></o:p></pre><pre style='margin-left:.5in'><a href="https://cabforum.org/mailman/listinfo/public">https://cabforum.org/mailman/listinfo/public</a><o:p></o:p></pre></blockquote><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><o:p> </o:p></p></div></body></html>