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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">I am consolidating the feedbacks and get back to you shortly.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:windowtext">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:windowtext"> public-bounces@cabforum.org [mailto:public-bounces@cabforum.org]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Rick Andrews<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, March 23, 2015 10:52 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Erwann Abalea; public@cabforum.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [cabfpub] Updates to Microsoft SHA-1 deprecation<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Thanks, Erwann. I missed that.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Two questions for Anoosh:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">What’s the rationale for 1/1/2016? I’m almost certain that Tom said it wouldn’t be required until 1/1/2017.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoListParagraph" style="text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2"><![if !supportLists]><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><span style="mso-list:Ignore">2)<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">     
</span></span></span><![endif]><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Echoing Bruce’s comment, is there any way that you can pull all the details together in a more understandable format? IMO, I shouldn’t have to read
 through all 5 pages of comments to see what the policy is. It’s great that Microsoft accepts comments (and answers them!) but if someone posts a question it probably means that the policy statement is lacking, and should be updated.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">-Rick<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<a href="mailto:public-bounces@cabforum.org">public-bounces@cabforum.org</a> [<a href="mailto:public-bounces@cabforum.org">mailto:public-bounces@cabforum.org</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Erwann Abalea<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, March 23, 2015 9:05 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:public@cabforum.org">public@cabforum.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [cabfpub] Updates to Microsoft SHA-1 deprecation<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<a href="http://blogs.technet.com/b/pki/archive/2013/11/12/sha1-deprecation-policy.aspx#pi47623=2">http://blogs.technet.com/b/pki/archive/2013/11/12/sha1-deprecation-policy.aspx#pi47623=2</a><br>
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CRLs will be SHA2-signed by 01/01/2016. See responses by "Amerk [MSFT]".<br>
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<pre style="margin-left:.5in">Erwann ABALEA<o:p></o:p></pre>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in">Le 23/03/2015 16:57, Rick Andrews a écrit :<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Bruce,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">At the Beijing meeting, Tom Albertson said that by 1/1/2017, even CRLs for SHA-1 roots had to be signed with SHA-2.
</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Anoosh, I assume that’s still Microsoft’s policy.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:1.0in"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">
<a href="mailto:public-bounces@cabforum.org">public-bounces@cabforum.org</a> [<a href="mailto:public-bounces@cabforum.org">mailto:public-bounces@cabforum.org</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Bruce Morton<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, March 23, 2015 7:40 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Anoosh Saboori<br>
<b>Cc:</b> CABFPub<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [cabfpub] Updates to Microsoft SHA-1 deprecation</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:1.0in"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Hi Anoosh,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:1.0in"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">I might be the only one, but I am a little confused regarding the Windows hashing requirements. It would be great if there was a matrix
 to show/confirm your requirements per Windows version.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:1.0in"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">I am thinking that the following must be covered:</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">SSL certificates</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Code Signing certificates</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">S/MIME certificates</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Time-stamping certificates</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">OCSP signing certificates</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Code signing signatures</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Time-stamp signatures</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">CRL signatures</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">OCSP signatures</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">there must be more …</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:1.0in"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">An issue that I want to understand is, since some certificates can be SHA-1, can the CRL/OCSP response be signed with a SHA-1 certificate?
 Can the signature be SHA-1? We would need to understand this for both root and issuing CAs.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:1.0in"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">If we can nail this down, then it will be easier to draft a spec for our implementation teams.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<b>Sent:</b> Saturday, March 21, 2015 8:29 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Bruce Morton<br>
<b>Cc:</b> CABFPub<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [cabfpub] Updates to Microsoft SHA-1 deprecation</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:1.0in"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Windows enforcement dates (i.e., date at which SHA-1 certificates will be rejected by Windows) only apply to SSL and code signing
 certificates. All other types of certificates will be rejected on Windows side when SHA-1 pre-image attacks are deemed feasible by Microsoft.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<b>Sent:</b> Friday, March 20, 2015 6:47 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Anoosh Saboori<br>
<b>Cc:</b> CABFPub<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [cabfpub] Updates to Microsoft SHA-1 deprecation</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:1.0in">Thank you for the update.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:1.0in">I don't think the policy for S/MIME certificates has been stated. I see some discussion in the comments. Could you also advise how the SHA-1 deprecation policy applies to S/MIME certificates. <o:p></o:p></p>
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Thanks, Bruce.<o:p></o:p></p>
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On Mar 20, 2015, at 8:57 PM, Anoosh Saboori <<a href="mailto:ansaboor@microsoft.com">ansaboor@microsoft.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:1.0in"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">I would like to inform you that Microsoft has made update to its SHA-1 deprecation policy to accommodate developers targeting Vista/Server 2008.
 Please see below.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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