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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Trend Micro never favored the IPR requirements in the first place. As I recall, it was pushed by some of the browsers.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">As I said in my earlier post, I can live with requiring an IPR Agreement (reluctantly) for Forum membership, and maybe for membership on Working Groups, as participants may
be actively involved in drafting new requirements. But I see no reason to require it for postings to a public list-serv open to everyone to post and read if we establish one. I think we should, just keep it separate from the Management@ and Public@ list-servs,
which would continue to be for members and interested parties only.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Right now, if someone posts to the Questions@ address (which does not require signing an IPR agreement), all Forum members see the post already – so if we as members are
somehow being fed private IP information subject to secret patents, it is already happening with no IPR agreement.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Reposting to the Public list (as people have done in the past) does not “expose” CABF members to any new ideas – they already saw all the ideas from the original post to
the Questions@ list. The only difference is that with reposting NON-members get to see the same post, and any response. So to be blunt, I think claiming there is an IPR issue in reposting messages already sent to and viewed by Forum members via the Questions@
list is totally without merit.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">And if Google and Mozilla allow public postings to your lists without an IPR agreement – the Forum should do the same.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Let’s come up with a solution at the Cupertino meeting. There has been a desire for more openness and allowing some way for the public to participate in our deliberations,
and this should be easy to solve.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> Ryan Sleevi [mailto:sleevi@google.com]
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<b>Sent:</b> Monday, March 02, 2015 11:03 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Kirk Hall (RD-US)<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Gervase Markham; CABFPub<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [cabfpub] Reposting on behalf of others<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Mon, Mar 2, 2015 at 11:00 AM, <a href="mailto:kirk_hall@trendmicro.com">
kirk_hall@trendmicro.com</a> <<a href="mailto:kirk_hall@trendmicro.com" target="_blank">kirk_hall@trendmicro.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Ryan and Gerv – do Google and Mozilla require members of the public to sign (click-through) IPR agreement
to post to your various lists? If not, why not?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">No. Nor does the W3C nor IETF require this.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">I would be in favor of eliminating the Forum’s IPR agreement requirement for public postings (especially
if that is what Google and Mozilla do).</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Then why have an IPR policy at all?<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Thanks.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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