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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body bgcolor=white lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>Dean’s right. I was just stirring the pot. This group has several demagogues, and I guess I’m one of them.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowtext'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowtext'> Dean Coclin [mailto:Dean_Coclin@symantec.com] <br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, January 26, 2015 12:05 PM<br><b>To:</b> tony@yaanatech.com; Ben Wilson; Stephen Davidson; CABFPub (public@cabforum.org)<br><b>Subject:</b> RE: [cabfpub] Chrome security warning discrepancy?<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>I don’t think Ben meant to be literal in his comment, but rather was pointing out that it would be useful for consumers and end users to be able to use different browsers and see similar and consistent warning information, similar to international traffic signs. We all know what a red octagon means even though in Puerto Rico it says, “Pare”. When we see it, we put our foot on the brake. Could similar behavior be ingrained in end users if all browsers had consistent security signs? Perhaps more study is necessary. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>As some of you know, the forum has never been able to place requirements on browsers, yet the opposite is true. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>Dean<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:windowtext'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:windowtext'> Tony Rutkowski [<a href="mailto:tony@yaanatech.com">mailto:tony@yaanatech.com</a>] <br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, January 26, 2015 10:58 AM<br><b>To:</b> Ben Wilson; Stephen Davidson; Dean Coclin; CABFPub (<a href="mailto:public@cabforum.org">public@cabforum.org</a>)<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [cabfpub] Chrome security warning discrepancy?<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>No!<br><br>You want a widely accepted industry specification,<br>and this is exactly what the CA/B Forum exists for.<br><br>If you look at the RSS Convention, it was done in<br>1968. There appear to be only a few dozen signatories<br>with many notable omissions. Similarly, few nations<br>even participate in the related body.<br><br>For a browser security indicator, you couldn't even<br>begin to get Nation States to discuss a subject <br>that plainly is not properly a subject of public<br>international law.<br><br>The Forum should be pursuing and evangelizing <br>its own work here rather than fantasizing over<br>treaties.<br><br>--tony, esq.<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>On 2015-01-25 10:25 AM, Ben Wilson wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='color:#1F497D'>Time for an international treaty on browser security indicators?</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>See <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vienna_Convention_on_Road_Signs_and_Signals#Traffic_lights" target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vienna_Convention_on_Road_Signs_and_Signals#Traffic_lights</a>.<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></body></html>