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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body bgcolor=white lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>Eddy bring out another problem for OV that we don’t have a uniform standard for OV, this is the problem.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>DV only for domain name ownership validation that it is very easy to do, no need to have a standard, and EV we have the standard, only OV vetting is using the different policies for each CA.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>So maybe CAB Forum need to come out a OV standard, then the browsers can make sure this cert is really standard OV, then they can give it a proper UI. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>Best Regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>Richard<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowtext'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowtext'> public-bounces@cabforum.org [mailto:public-bounces@cabforum.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Eddy Nigg<br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, November 6, 2014 7:33 AM<br><b>To:</b> public@cabforum.org<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [cabfpub] downgrade DV UI RE: OIDs for DV and OV<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>On 11/05/2014 04:48 PM, Jeremy Rowley wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><pre>That wasn't the point of creating EV. From the beginning, EV was intended to reach only the largest companies on the internet. It was designed at the request of Microsoft and banks to be a premiere indicator of identity. EV was never intended to impact OV issuance. <o:p></o:p></pre></blockquote><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><br>Maybe we should acknowledge here that CAs working in the field of verification according to different criterion/policies/capabilities have a completely different view of the things than say browser vendors (not speaking about users thereof). It's natural that CAs see it differently since this is their main product, for browsers SSL is just a small (though important) aspect of their product.<br><br>I believe it wouldn't hurt to provide a more advanced UI for the more knowledgeable users without confusing the casual user who doesn't care/know what it's for anyway. This could be probably done with the UI that is one click away, whereas the regular UI (address bar) wouldn't change.<br><br>But that's just food for thought...<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>-- <o:p></o:p></p><table class=MsoNormalTable border=0 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=0><tr><td colspan=2 style='padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal>Regards <o:p></o:p></p></td></tr><tr><td colspan=2 style='padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></td></tr><tr><td style='padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal>Signer: <o:p></o:p></p></td><td style='padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal>Eddy Nigg, COO/CTO<o:p></o:p></p></td></tr><tr><td style='padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></td><td style='padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><a href="http://www.startcom.org">StartCom Ltd.</a><o:p></o:p></p></td></tr><tr><td style='padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal>XMPP: <o:p></o:p></p></td><td style='padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><a href="xmpp:startcom@startcom.org">startcom@startcom.org</a><o:p></o:p></p></td></tr><tr><td style='padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal>Blog: <o:p></o:p></p></td><td style='padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><a href="http://blog.startcom.org">Join the Revolution!</a><o:p></o:p></p></td></tr><tr><td style='padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal>Twitter: <o:p></o:p></p></td><td style='padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><a href="http://twitter.com/eddy_nigg">Follow Me</a><o:p></o:p></p></td></tr><tr><td colspan=2 style='padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></td></tr></table><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:windowtext'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div></div></body></html>