Dean, I discovered that SSC's vote is not counted because of my fault.<br><br>Although it doesn't impact on the voting result, I suppose the email below has arrived to your Inbox.<br><br>Thanks,<br>M.D.<br><br>-------- Original Message --------<br>Subject: Re: [cabfpub] Ballot 133 - Insurance Requirements for EV Issuers<br>From: "Moudrick M. Dadashov" <md@ssc.lt><br>To: Dean Coclin <Dean_Coclin@symantec.com><br>CC: <br><br>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">SSC votes: "Yes".<br>
      <br>
      Sorry, this is not mind change. We think a small step forward is
      better then the status quo..<br>
      <br>
      Thanks,<br>
      M.D.<br>
      <br>
      On 10/21/2014 4:27 PM, Dean Coclin wrote:<br>
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        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Symantec votes
            YES.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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            Dean Coclin<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:public-bounces@cabforum.org">public-bounces@cabforum.org</a>
                [<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:public-bounces@cabforum.org">mailto:public-bounces@cabforum.org</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:i-barreira@izenpe.net">i-barreira@izenpe.net</a><br>
                <b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, October 21, 2014 2:56 AM<br>
                <b>To:</b> <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:eddy_nigg@startcom.org">eddy_nigg@startcom.org</a>;
                <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:ben.wilson@digicert.com">ben.wilson@digicert.com</a>; <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:public@cabforum.org">public@cabforum.org</a><br>
                <b>Subject:</b> Re: [cabfpub] Ballot 133 - Insurance
                Requirements for EV Issuers<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                <b>En nombre de </b>Eddy Nigg<br>
                <b>Enviado el:</b> lunes, 20 de octubre de 2014 18:21<br>
                <b>Para:</b> Ben Wilson; CABFPub<br>
                <b>Asunto:</b> Re: [cabfpub] Ballot 133 - Insurance
                Requirements for EV Issuers<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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            lang="ES">StartCom votes YES<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ES">On 10/08/2014 07:08 PM,
              Ben Wilson wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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          <p class="line867"><strong><span lang="ES">Ballot 133 -
                Insurance Requirements for EV Issuers</span></strong><span
              lang="ES"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
          <p class="line874"><span lang="ES">The following motion has
              been proposed by Ben Wilson of Digicert and endorsed by
              Atilla Biler of Turktrust and Dean Coclin of Symantec.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
          <p class="line874"><b><span lang="ES">Purpose </span></b><span
              lang="ES"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
          <p class="line874"><span lang="ES">The purpose of this ballot
              is to simplify the insurance requirements in section 8.4
              of the EV Guidelines by replacing commercial general
              liability in (A) with an ordinary property casualty
              insurance requirement and to simplify third party
              liability coverage in (B) and reduce the required amount
              of that coverage down to $3 million. This should make it
              easier for CAs to obtain insurance required by the EV
              Guidelines. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
          <p class="line874"><b><span lang="ES">-- MOTION BEGINS -- </span></b><span
              lang="ES"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
          <p class="line874"><span lang="ES">1. Amend the second
              paragraph of Section 8.1 as follows: <o:p></o:p></span></p>
          <p class="line862"><span lang="ES">If a court or government
              body with jurisdiction over the activities covered by
              these Guidelines determines that the performance of any
              mandatory requirement is illegal <span class="u"><u>or
                  would conflict with local law</u></span>, then such
              requirement is considered reformed to the minimum extent
              necessary to make the requirement valid and legal. This
              applies only to operations<span class="u">,</span> <span
                class="strike"><s>or</s></span><s> </s>certificate
              issuances, <span class="u"><u>or insurance requirements</u></span><u>
              </u>that are subject to the laws of that jurisdiction. The
              parties involved SHALL notify the CA / Browser Forum of
              the facts, circumstances, and law(s) involved, so that the
              CA/Browser Forum may revise these Guidelines accordingly.
              <o:p></o:p></span></p>
          <p class="line874"><span lang="ES">2. Amend Section 8.4 as
              follows:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:5.75pt;margin-right:2.2in;margin-bottom:4.3pt;margin-left:0in;text-align:justify"><a
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                style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Times New
                Roman \, serif"" lang="ES">8.4.  Insurance </span></b><span
              lang="ES"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"
            style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-right:2.2in;margin-bottom:12.25pt"><span
              style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman
              \, serif"" lang="ES">Each CA SHALL maintain the
              following insurance related to <s>their</s> <u>its </u>respective
              performance and obligations under these Guidelines:</span><span
              lang="ES"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-right:2.2in;margin-bottom:12.25pt;margin-left:.5in;text-indent:-.25in"><u><span
                style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New
                Roman \, serif"" lang="ES">(A) Property insurance
                for casualty/perils of fire, water, electrical failure,
                and natural disaster in sufficient amount to cover
                damage or loss to physical assets used to issue and
                maintain EV Certificates</span></u><s><span
                style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New
                Roman \, serif"" lang="ES">,</span></s><span
              style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman
              \, serif"" lang="ES"> <s>Commercial General
                Liability insurance (occurrence form) with policy limits
                of at least two million US dollars in coverage</s>; and<s>
              </s></span><span lang="ES"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-right:2.2in;margin-bottom:12.25pt;margin-left:.5in;text-indent:-.25in"><span
              style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman
              \, serif"" lang="ES">(B) <s>Professional</s>
              Liability<s>, Errors and Omissions</s> insurance, with
              policy limits of at least <s>five</s> <u>three </u>million
              US dollars in coverage<u>, per claim and in the aggregate</u>,
              <s>and including coverage</s> for <s>(i) claims for</s> <u>direct
              </u>damages arising out of a<s>n</s> <u>negligent</u>
              act, error, or omission, <s>unintentional breach of
                contract, or neglect</s> in issuing or maintaining EV
              Certificates<s>, and (ii) claims for damages arising out
                of infringement of the proprietary rights of any third
                party (excluding copyright, and trademark infringement),
                and invasion of privacy and advertising injury</s>.</span><span
              lang="ES"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
          <p
style="mso-margin-top-alt:5.0pt;margin-right:2.2in;margin-bottom:12.25pt;margin-left:.5in;line-height:normal"><u><span
                lang="ES">(1)</span></u><span lang="ES"> Such insurance<u>
                MUST NOT exclude coverage when providing cryptographic,
                digital signature, or public key infrastructure
                services; </u><o:p></o:p></span></p>
          <p
style="mso-margin-top-alt:5.0pt;margin-right:2.2in;margin-bottom:12.25pt;margin-left:.5in;line-height:normal"><u><span
                lang="ES">and</span></u><span lang="ES"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
          <p
style="mso-margin-top-alt:5.0pt;margin-right:2.2in;margin-bottom:12.25pt;margin-left:.5in;line-height:normal"><u><span
                lang="ES">(2) Such insurance </span></u><span
              style="text-transform:uppercase" lang="ES">must</span><span
              lang="ES">:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
          <p
style="mso-margin-top-alt:5.0pt;margin-right:2.2in;margin-bottom:12.25pt;margin-left:.5in;line-height:normal"><u><span
                lang="ES">(i) be maintained for all periods during which
                an EV Certificate issued by the CA is still valid (and
                if coverage is canceled or not renewed, the CA shall
                purchase an extended reporting period for such periods);</span></u><span
              lang="ES"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
          <p
style="mso-margin-top-alt:5.0pt;margin-right:2.2in;margin-bottom:12.25pt;margin-left:.5in;line-height:normal"><u><span
                lang="ES">(ii) include coverage for those territories
                where the CA provides EV Certificates; and</span></u><span
              lang="ES"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
          <p
style="mso-margin-top-alt:5.0pt;margin-right:2.2in;margin-bottom:12.25pt;margin-left:.5in;line-height:normal"><u><span
                lang="ES">(iii)</span></u><span lang="ES"> be with a
              company rated <u>good or better by Standard & Poor's,
                A.M.</u> <s>no less than A- as to Policy Holder’s
                Rating in the current edition of</s> Best<s>'s Insurance
                Guide</s><u>, Fitch, Moody's, DBRS, Japan Credit Rating
                Agency, Creditreform, Scope Ratings, or another
                similarly recognized insurance rating agency </u><s>(or
                with an association of companies each of the members of
                which are so rated)</s>.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
          <p
style="mso-margin-top-alt:5.0pt;margin-right:2.2in;margin-bottom:12.25pt;margin-left:.5in;line-height:normal"><u><span
                lang="ES">If available at reasonable cost, a CA SHOULD
                maintain coverage for damage or loss to data, software,
                systems, and for business interruption due to IT
                security failure, malware, network attack, criminal
                hacker, or theft. </span></u><span lang="ES"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
          <p
style="mso-margin-top-alt:5.0pt;margin-right:2.2in;margin-bottom:12.25pt;margin-left:.5in;line-height:normal"><span
              lang="ES">A CA MAY self-insure for liabilities that arise
              from such party's performance and obligations under these
              Guidelines provided that it has at least five hundred
              million US dollars in <s>liquid</s> <u>current </u>assets
              based on audited financial statements in the past twelve
              months, and a quick ratio (ratio of <s>liquid</s> <u>current</u>
              assets to current liabilities) of not less than 1.0. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"
            style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><b><span
                style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New
                Roman \, serif"" lang="ES">-- MOTION ENDS -- </span></b><span
              lang="ES"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"
            style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
              style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman
              \, serif"" lang="ES">The review period for this
              ballot shall commence at 2200 UTC on Wednesday, 8 October
              2014, and will close at 2200 UTC on Wednesday, 15 October
              2014. Unless the motion is withdrawn during the review
              period, the voting period will start immediately
              thereafter and will close at 2200 UTC on Wednesday, 22
              October 2014. Votes must be cast by posting an on-list
              reply to this thread. </span><span lang="ES"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"
            style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
              style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman
              \, serif"" lang="ES">A vote in favor of the motion
              must indicate a clear 'yes' in the response. A vote
              against must indicate a clear 'no' in the response. A vote
              to abstain must indicate a clear 'abstain' in the
              response. Unclear responses will not be counted. The
              latest vote received from any representative of a voting
              member before the close of the voting period will be
              counted. Voting members are listed here: <a
                moz-do-not-send="true"
                href="https://cabforum.org/members/">https://cabforum.org/members/</a>
            </span><span lang="ES"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"
            style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
              style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman
              \, serif"" lang="ES">In order for the motion to be
              adopted, two thirds or more of the votes cast by members
              in the CA category and greater than 50% of the votes cast
              by members in the browser category must be in favor.
              Quorum is currently nine (9) members– at least nine
              members must participate in the ballot, either by voting
              in favor, voting against, or abstaining. </span><span
              lang="ES"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span
              style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New
              Roman","serif"" lang="ES"><br>
              <br>
              <o:p></o:p></span></p>
          <pre><span lang="ES">_______________________________________________<o:p></o:p></span></pre>
          <pre><span lang="ES">Public mailing list<o:p></o:p></span></pre>
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        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
            style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New
            Roman","serif"" lang="ES"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
              style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New
              Roman","serif"" lang="ES">-- <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                      style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times
                      New Roman","serif"">Regards <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                      style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times
                      New Roman","serif""> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                      style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times
                      New Roman","serif"">Signer: <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                <td style="padding:0in 0in 0in 0in">
                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                      style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times
                      New Roman","serif"">Eddy Nigg,
                      COO/CTO<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                      style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times
                      New Roman","serif""> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                      style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times
                      New Roman","serif""><a
                        moz-do-not-send="true"
                        href="http://www.startcom.org">StartCom Ltd.</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                      style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times
                      New Roman","serif"">XMPP: <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                      style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times
                      New Roman","serif""><a
                        moz-do-not-send="true"
                        href="xmpp:startcom@startcom.org">startcom@startcom.org</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                      style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times
                      New Roman","serif"">Blog: <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                      style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times
                      New Roman","serif""><a
                        moz-do-not-send="true"
                        href="http://blog.startcom.org">Join the
                        Revolution!</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                <td style="padding:0in 0in 0in 0in">
                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                      style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times
                      New Roman","serif"">Twitter: <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                      style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times
                      New Roman","serif""><a
                        moz-do-not-send="true"
                        href="http://twitter.com/eddy_nigg">Follow Me</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                      style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times
                      New Roman","serif""> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
              style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New
              Roman","serif";color:windowtext" lang="ES"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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