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<p class="MsoNormal">Well, maybe make the sentence a bit more neutral, like “The CA SHALL log all<b>
</b>actions taken, if any, consistent with its processing practice.” “Ignores” is a loaded word – there may be a malformed CAA record, for example, which the CA can’t read. The point is “Say what you do, and then do what you say.”<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> Rick Andrews [mailto:Rick_Andrews@symantec.com]
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<b>Sent:</b> Friday, September 26, 2014 1:54 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Kirk Hall (RD-US); Ben Wilson<br>
<b>Cc:</b> CABFPub<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: Ballot 125 - CAA<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Kirk, I can accept even your simplified second sentence, as long as it’s clear to everyone that CAs that don’t check CAA don’t have to maintain any records. Is that clear, or should we say “Unless the CA ignores
CAA records, it SHALL maintain a record of its actions demonstrating compliance with its stated policy.”<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">-Rick<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> kirk_hall@trendmicro.com [mailto:kirk_hall@trendmicro.com]
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<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, September 17, 2014 10:59 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Ben Wilson; Rick Andrews<br>
<b>Cc:</b> CABFPub<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: Ballot 125 - CAA<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span style="color:#1F497D">The language requires disclosure of two things: (1) what the CAA does to respond to CAA records, and (2) a statement that the CA logs its actions (consistent with its stated policy).<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span style="color:#1F497D">Wouldn’t it be better to turn (2) into an actual requirement, such as:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:1.0in">Effective as of [insert date that is six months from Ballot 125 adoption], section 4.2 of a CA's Certificate Policy and/or Certification Practice Statement (section 4.1 for CAs still conforming to RFC 2527) SHALL
state <s>whether the CA reviews CAA Records, and if so, (1)</s> the CA’s policy or practice on processing CAA Records for Fully Qualified Domain Names<b><u>.
</u></b><s>, and (2) that the CA logs</s> <b><u>The CA SHALL log all </u></b>actions consistent with its processing practice.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span style="color:#1F497D">I would actually prefer something a little simpler for the second sentence, such as “The CA SHALL maintain a record of its actions demonstrating compliance with its stated policy.”<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">
<a href="mailto:public-bounces@cabforum.org">public-bounces@cabforum.org</a> [<a href="mailto:public-bounces@cabforum.org">mailto:public-bounces@cabforum.org</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Ben Wilson<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, September 18, 2014 11:50 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Rick Andrews (<a href="mailto:Rick_Andrews@symantec.com">Rick_Andrews@symantec.com</a>)<br>
<b>Cc:</b> CABFPub<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [cabfpub] Ballot 125 - CAA<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in">Rick,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in">Here is some draft language to add to the end of Section 8.2.2 of the Baseline Requirements.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in">Effective as of [insert date that is six months from Ballot 125 adoption], section 4.2 of a CA's Certificate Policy and/or Certification Practice Statement (section 4.1 for CAs still conforming to RFC 2527) SHALL
state whether the CA reviews CAA Records, and if so, (1) the CA’s policy or practice on processing CAA Records for Fully Qualified Domain Names, and (2) that the CA logs actions consistent with its processing practice.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in">My interpretation of this language is that CAs will be required to disclose their CAA-review practices and if they do review CAA records, that they also state in their CP or CPS: (1) what those practices are, and
(2) that they document their actions. Is this clear to everyone else with the proposed language? Does anyone feel that it would be difficult to monitor or audit compliance with this requirement?<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in">Thanks,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in">Ben<o:p></o:p></p>
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