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This will be on the agenda for the Face-to-Face.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> evsection11-bounces@cabforum.org [mailto:evsection11-bounces@cabforum.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Ben Wilson<br><b>Sent:</b> Sunday, June 8, 2014 6:33 PM<br><b>To:</b> 'Cecilia Kam'; 'Wayne Thayer'; 'Jeremy Rowley'; 'Joanna Fox'; Evsection11@cabforum.org; kelviny@exchange.microsoft.com<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [cabf_ev_improvements] EV Section 11.13<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Here is another shot at pre-Ballot 123 for updating EV Section 11.13.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Let me know what you think.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Cecilia Kam [<a href="mailto:Cecilia_Kam@symantec.com">mailto:Cecilia_Kam@symantec.com</a>] <br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, May 13, 2014 2:01 PM<br><b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:ben@digicert.com">ben@digicert.com</a>; 'Wayne Thayer'; 'Jeremy Rowley'; 'Joanna Fox'; <a href="mailto:Evsection11@cabforum.org">Evsection11@cabforum.org</a>; <a href="mailto:kelviny@exchange.microsoft.com">kelviny@exchange.microsoft.com</a><br><b>Subject:</b> RE: [cabf_ev_improvements] EV Section 11.13<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Yes that is best – <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>(5) The CA MUST repeat the verification processes required in these Guidelines for any information obtained outside the time limits specified above</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Ben Wilson [<a href="mailto:ben@digicert.com">mailto:ben@digicert.com</a>] <br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, May 13, 2014 1:00 PM<br><b>To:</b> Cecilia Kam; 'Wayne Thayer'; 'Jeremy Rowley'; 'Joanna Fox'; <a href="mailto:Evsection11@cabforum.org">Evsection11@cabforum.org</a>; <a href="mailto:kelviny@exchange.microsoft.com">kelviny@exchange.microsoft.com</a><br><b>Subject:</b> RE: [cabf_ev_improvements] EV Section 11.13<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Never mind, I see we use the word “limits”, so what about “(5) The CA MUST repeat the verification processes required in these Guidelines for any information obtained outside the time limits specified above”?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Ben Wilson <a href="mailto:[mailto:ben@digicert.com]">[mailto:ben@digicert.com]</a> <br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, May 13, 2014 1:58 PM<br><b>To:</b> 'Cecilia Kam'; 'Wayne Thayer'; 'Jeremy Rowley'; 'Joanna Fox'; 'Evsection11@cabforum.org'; 'kelviny@exchange.microsoft.com'<br><b>Subject:</b> RE: [cabf_ev_improvements] EV Section 11.13<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>What about “(5) The CA MUST repeat the verification processes required in these Guidelines for any information obtained outside the time periods specified above”?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Cecilia Kam [<a href="mailto:Cecilia_Kam@symantec.com">mailto:Cecilia_Kam@symantec.com</a>] <br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, May 12, 2014 11:51 AM<br><b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:ben@digicert.com">ben@digicert.com</a>; 'Wayne Thayer'; 'Jeremy Rowley'; 'Joanna Fox'; <a href="mailto:Evsection11@cabforum.org">Evsection11@cabforum.org</a>; <a href="mailto:kelviny@exchange.microsoft.com">kelviny@exchange.microsoft.com</a><br><b>Subject:</b> RE: [cabf_ev_improvements] EV Section 11.13<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Hi Ben, <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>One minor update to 11.13.3<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>(5) The CA MUST repeat the verification processes required in these Guidelines for any information obtained <span style='background:yellow;mso-highlight:yellow'>outside</span> <s>earlier than allowed by</s> the limits specified above.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Thanks, <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Cecilia<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Ben Wilson [<a href="mailto:ben@digicert.com">mailto:ben@digicert.com</a>] <br><b>Sent:</b> Friday, May 09, 2014 12:07 PM<br><b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:ben@digicert.com">ben@digicert.com</a>; 'Wayne Thayer'; 'Jeremy Rowley'; 'Joanna Fox'; Cecilia Kam; <a href="mailto:Evsection11@cabforum.org">Evsection11@cabforum.org</a>; <a href="mailto:kelviny@exchange.microsoft.com">kelviny@exchange.microsoft.com</a><br><b>Subject:</b> RE: [cabf_ev_improvements] EV Section 11.13<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Here is an updated redlined draft of the EVGs for a Pre-Ballot 123 Forum review. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> <a href="mailto:evsection11-bounces@cabforum.org">evsection11-bounces@cabforum.org</a> <a href="mailto:[mailto:evsection11-bounces@cabforum.org]">[mailto:evsection11-bounces@cabforum.org]</a> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Ben Wilson<br><b>Sent:</b> Friday, May 02, 2014 11:36 AM<br><b>To:</b> 'Wayne Thayer'; 'Jeremy Rowley'; 'Joanna Fox'; 'Cecilia Kam'; <a href="mailto:Evsection11@cabforum.org">Evsection11@cabforum.org</a>; <a href="mailto:kelviny@exchange.microsoft.com">kelviny@exchange.microsoft.com</a><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [cabf_ev_improvements] EV Section 11.13<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Who is the proponent and who are the endorsers for the current draft? Is this ready to be put forth as a ballot?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Wayne Thayer [<a href="mailto:wthayer@godaddy.com">mailto:wthayer@godaddy.com</a>] <br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, April 30, 2014 1:40 PM<br><b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:ben@digicert.com">ben@digicert.com</a>; 'Jeremy Rowley'; Joanna Fox; 'Cecilia Kam'; <a href="mailto:Evsection11@cabforum.org">Evsection11@cabforum.org</a>; <a href="mailto:kelviny@exchange.microsoft.com">kelviny@exchange.microsoft.com</a><br><b>Subject:</b> RE: [cabf_ev_improvements] EV Section 11.13<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Good point. I like Jeremy’s new language, but we should combine the new (4) with the old (3).<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Thanks,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Wayne<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b>From:</b> Ben Wilson [<a href="mailto:ben@digicert.com">mailto:ben@digicert.com</a>] <br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, April 30, 2014 12:31 PM<br><b>To:</b> 'Jeremy Rowley'; Wayne Thayer; Joanna Fox; 'Cecilia Kam'; <a href="mailto:Evsection11@cabforum.org">Evsection11@cabforum.org</a>; <a href="mailto:kelviny@exchange.microsoft.com">kelviny@exchange.microsoft.com</a><br><b>Subject:</b> RE: [cabf_ev_improvements] EV Section 11.13<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>There is also 11.13.3(3) to consider and whether that should be part of this overall explanation.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Jeremy Rowley [<a href="mailto:jeremy.rowley@digicert.com">mailto:jeremy.rowley@digicert.com</a>] <br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, April 30, 2014 1:27 PM<br><b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:ben@digicert.com">ben@digicert.com</a>; 'Wayne Thayer'; 'Joanna Fox'; 'Cecilia Kam'; <a href="mailto:Evsection11@cabforum.org">Evsection11@cabforum.org</a>; <a href="mailto:kelviny@exchange.microsoft.com">kelviny@exchange.microsoft.com</a><br><b>Subject:</b> RE: [cabf_ev_improvements] EV Section 11.13<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>I still think we could drop the language since reuse of the requests and subscriber agreements is adequately covered under other sections. However, if we want to add something, I do like the idea of splitting it into two separate sections:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p style='mso-margin-top-alt:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:.25in'><u><span style='font-size:11.5pt;color:blue'>(4) The CA MAY rely on a previously-verified EV Certificate Request to issue subsequent or multiple EV Certificates to an Applicant, provided that the EV Request (i) meets the requirements in Section 10 for each subsequent or multiple Certificate(s) issued and (ii) was approved by a pre-authorized Certificate Approver under Section 11.7.4.<o:p></o:p></span></u></p><p style='mso-margin-top-alt:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:.25in'><u><span style='font-size:11.5pt;color:blue'> (5) The CA MAY rely on a previously-verified Subscriber Agreement or Terms of Use to issue subsequent or multiple EV Certificates to an Applicant, provided that the Subscriber Agreement or Terms of Use meets the requirements in Section 10 with respect to each subsequent or multiple EV Certificate.</span></u><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Thoughts?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><a name="_MailEndCompose"></a><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Ben Wilson [<a href="mailto:ben@digicert.com">mailto:ben@digicert.com</a>] <br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, April 30, 2014 1:07 PM<br><b>To:</b> 'Wayne Thayer'; 'Jeremy Rowley'; 'Joanna Fox'; 'Cecilia Kam'; <a href="mailto:Evsection11@cabforum.org">Evsection11@cabforum.org</a>; <a href="mailto:kelviny@exchange.microsoft.com">kelviny@exchange.microsoft.com</a><br><b>Subject:</b> RE: [cabf_ev_improvements] EV Section 11.13<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Maybe since this will be discussed during the call tomorrow we could move the discussion to the public list? One suggestion might be to introduce alternative language for discussion. My overall intent was to point people to other relevant sections of the EVGs (otherwise someone might read one section without realizing that there is another one in the EVG or BRs that they should also be looking at).<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Wayne Thayer [<a href="mailto:wthayer@godaddy.com">mailto:wthayer@godaddy.com</a>] <br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, April 30, 2014 12:32 PM<br><b>To:</b> Jeremy Rowley; <a href="mailto:ben@digicert.com">ben@digicert.com</a>; Joanna Fox; 'Cecilia Kam'; <a href="mailto:Evsection11@cabforum.org">Evsection11@cabforum.org</a>; <a href="mailto:kelviny@exchange.microsoft.com">kelviny@exchange.microsoft.com</a><br><b>Subject:</b> RE: [cabf_ev_improvements] EV Section 11.13<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Jeremy, I think your language is the opposite of Ben’s, and it helps to think about reuse of the certificate request and subscriber agreement (SA) separately.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>The SA is the easier case, and Ben’s language works. Jeremy, I read your language as saying that you have to follow 11.8 for each request and therefore you must validate the signature on the SA every time. It’s unclear if you could reverify the signature on the exact same document, but that seems pointless.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>It’s unclear to me that the reuse of a certificate request is even useful (one request covering multiple certs?), but if it is I don’t think that doing so conflicts directly with 11.7.4, which is about pre-authorizing the approver. Ben, I don’t understand your language on 11.7.4 – are you saying that a request can only be reused if the provisions of 11.7.4 are in effect? If so, I suggest we put that language right into 11.7.4 and let 11.13.3(4) address the SA only.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Thanks,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Wayne<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b>From:</b> <a href="mailto:evsection11-bounces@cabforum.org">evsection11-bounces@cabforum.org</a> [<a href="mailto:evsection11-bounces@cabforum.org">mailto:evsection11-bounces@cabforum.org</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Jeremy Rowley<br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, April 29, 2014 3:27 PM<br><b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:ben@digicert.com">ben@digicert.com</a>; Joanna Fox; 'Cecilia Kam'; <a href="mailto:Evsection11@cabforum.org">Evsection11@cabforum.org</a>; <a href="mailto:kelviny@exchange.microsoft.com">kelviny@exchange.microsoft.com</a><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [cabf_ev_improvements] EV Section 11.13<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>I think it’s too much and will tend to over-ride the pre-authorization of 11.7.4 and signed agreement language elsewhere in the guidelines. If we’re going to add something, the language should be short and sweet:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>(4) The CA MAY use reuse a previously submitted EV Certificate Request, Subscriber Agreement, or Terms of Use to the extent permitted under Sections 11.8 and 11.9.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Ben Wilson [<a href="mailto:ben@digicert.com">mailto:ben@digicert.com</a>] <br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, April 29, 2014 3:25 PM<br><b>To:</b> 'Joanna Fox'; 'Jeremy Rowley'; 'Cecilia Kam'; <a href="mailto:Evsection11@cabforum.org">Evsection11@cabforum.org</a>; <a href="mailto:kelviny@exchange.microsoft.com">kelviny@exchange.microsoft.com</a><br><b>Subject:</b> RE: [cabf_ev_improvements] EV Section 11.13<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>What about this for 11.13.3?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='mso-margin-top-alt:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:.25in;text-indent:-.25in'><u><span style='font-size:11.5pt;color:blue'><o:p><span style='text-decoration:none'> </span></o:p></span></u></p><p style='mso-margin-top-alt:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:.25in'><u><span style='font-size:11.5pt;color:blue'>Subject to the aging and updating requirements listed in this Section 11.13, the CA MAY use an EV Certificate Request, Subscriber Agreement, or Affiliate’s Terms of Use that was previously verified under Sections 11.7 and 11.8 (including, if applicable, the pre-authorization requirements found in Section 11.7.4) to issue subsequent or multiple EV Certificates to an Applicant, provided that such documents: (a) request or authorize certificate issuance for the Subjects to be included in the Certificate(s); (b) do not conflict with the then-existing version of these Guidelines; and (c) remain legally binding and enforceable for the CA, the Subscriber, and the EV Certificate(s) to be issued. </span></u><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Joanna Fox [<a href="mailto:jweber@godaddy.com">mailto:jweber@godaddy.com</a>] <br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, April 29, 2014 9:52 AM<br><b>To:</b> Jeremy Rowley; <a href="mailto:ben@digicert.com">ben@digicert.com</a>; 'Cecilia Kam'; <a href="mailto:Evsection11@cabforum.org">Evsection11@cabforum.org</a>; <a href="mailto:kelviny@exchange.microsoft.com">kelviny@exchange.microsoft.com</a><br><b>Subject:</b> RE: [cabf_ev_improvements] EV Section 11.13<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>My interpretation is that this section allows for reuse of these documents as long as no data has changed. I’m happy to take the opportunity of rewriting 11.13 to include clarifying this section. If we want to word it more simply, we can either put a time restriction on the use of a Subscriber Agreement or remove a time restriction entirely and just say something to the effect of, if the Contract Signer (Applicant Representative) has not changed document is considered valid.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Thoughts?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b>From:</b> Jeremy Rowley [<a href="mailto:jeremy.rowley@digicert.com">mailto:jeremy.rowley@digicert.com</a>] <br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, April 28, 2014 10:00 PM<br><b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:ben@digicert.com">ben@digicert.com</a>; 'Cecilia Kam'; Joanna Fox; <a href="mailto:Evsection11@cabforum.org">Evsection11@cabforum.org</a>; <a href="mailto:kelviny@exchange.microsoft.com">kelviny@exchange.microsoft.com</a><br><b>Subject:</b> RE: [cabf_ev_improvements] EV Section 11.13<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>I agree with Ben – I’m not sure what it means to have each request supported by a previously confirmed EV Certificate request and subscriber agreement. The fact that a valid one must exist is a requirement for EV issuance under 11.8 and 11.9. I’m not sure why it was ever included under the document validity period requirements.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Ben Wilson [<a href="mailto:ben@digicert.com">mailto:ben@digicert.com</a>] <br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, April 28, 2014 10:55 PM<br><b>To:</b> 'Cecilia Kam'; 'Joanna Fox'; 'Jeremy Rowley'; <a href="mailto:Evsection11@cabforum.org">Evsection11@cabforum.org</a>; <a href="mailto:kelviny@exchange.microsoft.com">kelviny@exchange.microsoft.com</a><br><b>Subject:</b> RE: [cabf_ev_improvements] EV Section 11.13<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>It seems like subsection 11.13.3(4) is a requirement, not an exception, and it just restates sections 7.1(F), 10.1.2, 11.1.1 (and a bunch of others). I’m wondering whether the original subsection (4) was intended to limit the use of a single Subscriber Agreement by requiring a new certificate request each time, but that is allowed in (3) above (and in section 10.2.1 of the BRs), so what does it really mean to say? <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Cecilia Kam [<a href="mailto:Cecilia_Kam@symantec.com">mailto:Cecilia_Kam@symantec.com</a>] <br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, April 28, 2014 5:41 PM<br><b>To:</b> Joanna Fox; <a href="mailto:ben@digicert.com">ben@digicert.com</a>; 'Jeremy Rowley'; <a href="mailto:Evsection11@cabforum.org">Evsection11@cabforum.org</a>; <a href="mailto:kelviny@exchange.microsoft.com">kelviny@exchange.microsoft.com</a><br><b>Subject:</b> RE: [cabf_ev_improvements] EV Section 11.13<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><a name="OLE_LINK86"></a><a name="OLE_LINK60"></a><a name="OLE_LINK35"></a><a name="OLE_LINK34"></a><a name="OLE_LINK33"></a><a name="OLE_LINK87"></a><span style='color:#1F497D'>Hi Ben, <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>One minor update:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>11.13.1<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>(3) The Method of Communication required by Section 11.4.2(2)(A), provided that the CA <span style='background:yellow;mso-highlight:yellow'>verified</span> the communications as required by Section 11.4.2 (2)(B);<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Also I think Joanna is correct and 11.13.3 (4) should be included<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>11.13.3<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal>(4) Each EV Certificate issued by the CA MUST be supported by a previously confirmed EV Certificate Request and a Subscriber Agreement signed by the appropriate Applicant Representative on behalf of the Applicant or Terms of Use acknowledged by the appropriate Applicant Representative.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>I might have more feedback tomorrow. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Thanks, <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Cecilia<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Joanna Fox [<a href="mailto:jweber@godaddy.com">mailto:jweber@godaddy.com</a>] <br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, April 28, 2014 4:11 PM<br><b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:ben@digicert.com">ben@digicert.com</a>; 'Jeremy Rowley'; Cecilia Kam; <a href="mailto:Evsection11@cabforum.org">Evsection11@cabforum.org</a>; <a href="mailto:kelviny@exchange.microsoft.com">kelviny@exchange.microsoft.com</a><br><b>Subject:</b> RE: [cabf_ev_improvements] EV Section 11.13<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>I don’t remember omitting 11.13.3 Subsection 4. Do we want this reconfirmed each time?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Thanks, Joanna<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b>From:</b> Ben Wilson <a href="mailto:[mailto:ben@digicert.com]">[mailto:ben@digicert.com]</a> <br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, April 28, 2014 11:31 AM<br><b>To:</b> Joanna Fox; 'Jeremy Rowley'; 'Cecilia Kam'; <a href="mailto:Evsection11@cabforum.org">Evsection11@cabforum.org</a>; <a href="mailto:kelviny@exchange.microsoft.com">kelviny@exchange.microsoft.com</a><br><b>Subject:</b> RE: [cabf_ev_improvements] EV Section 11.13<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Joanna indicated the earlier ones worked, and this one didn’t, so just in case, here it is as an RTF file. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> <a href="mailto:evsection11-bounces@cabforum.org">evsection11-bounces@cabforum.org</a> [<a href="mailto:evsection11-bounces@cabforum.org">mailto:evsection11-bounces@cabforum.org</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Ben Wilson<br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, April 28, 2014 11:57 AM<br><b>To:</b> 'Jeremy Rowley'; 'Cecilia Kam'; <a href="mailto:Evsection11@cabforum.org">Evsection11@cabforum.org</a>; <a href="mailto:kelviny@exchange.microsoft.com">kelviny@exchange.microsoft.com</a><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [cabf_ev_improvements] EV Section 11.13<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Any comments, or should I circulate this to “public” in advance of it being an agenda item for Thursday’s CABF call?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> <a href="mailto:evsection11-bounces@cabforum.org">evsection11-bounces@cabforum.org</a> [<a href="mailto:evsection11-bounces@cabforum.org">mailto:evsection11-bounces@cabforum.org</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Ben Wilson<br><b>Sent:</b> Friday, April 25, 2014 12:17 PM<br><b>To:</b> 'Jeremy Rowley'; 'Cecilia Kam'; <a href="mailto:Evsection11@cabforum.org">Evsection11@cabforum.org</a>; <a href="mailto:kelviny@exchange.microsoft.com">kelviny@exchange.microsoft.com</a><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [cabf_ev_improvements] EV Section 11.13<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Here is a cleaned up Word version. Let me know whether you notice any errors in the automatic paragraph numbering.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Ben Wilson [<a href="mailto:ben@digicert.com">mailto:ben@digicert.com</a>] <br><b>Sent:</b> Friday, April 25, 2014 11:19 AM<br><b>To:</b> 'ben@digicert.com'; 'Jeremy Rowley'; 'Cecilia Kam'; 'Evsection11@cabforum.org'; Kelvin Yiu <<a href="mailto:kelviny@exchange.microsoft.com">kelviny@exchange.microsoft.com</a>> (<a href="mailto:kelviny@exchange.microsoft.com">kelviny@exchange.microsoft.com</a>)<br><b>Subject:</b> RE: [cabf_ev_improvements] EV Section 11.13<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>All,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Here is an updated version. Discard the version I sent yesterday. Also, I’m going to see if I can clean up the Styles in the Word version, and then I’ll send that to you shortly.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Ben<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> <a href="mailto:evsection11-bounces@cabforum.org">evsection11-bounces@cabforum.org</a> [<a href="mailto:evsection11-bounces@cabforum.org">mailto:evsection11-bounces@cabforum.org</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Ben Wilson<br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, April 24, 2014 12:34 PM<br><b>To:</b> 'Jeremy Rowley'; 'Cecilia Kam'; <a href="mailto:Evsection11@cabforum.org">Evsection11@cabforum.org</a><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [cabf_ev_improvements] EV Section 11.13<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>For this Draft Ballot 123, I reviewed the language and redlined the version of the EV Guidelines being used for Ballot 122. The yellow highlighting means that the insertion or deletion was mainly a move of the text. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>I made several edits, so everyone, including Cecilia, Jeremy and JoAnne, ought to review what has changed. Feel free to ask why I changed anything or explain why something shouldn’t have been changed.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Thanks,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Ben<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> <a href="mailto:evsection11-bounces@cabforum.org">evsection11-bounces@cabforum.org</a> [<a href="mailto:evsection11-bounces@cabforum.org">mailto:evsection11-bounces@cabforum.org</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Ben Wilson<br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, April 24, 2014 11:26 AM<br><b>To:</b> 'Jeremy Rowley'; 'Cecilia Kam'; <a href="mailto:Evsection11@cabforum.org">Evsection11@cabforum.org</a><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [cabf_ev_improvements] EV Section 11.13<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>FYI-I’m putting this into ballot form as draft proposed Ballot 123. Then I’ll send it out to the group for discussion during the next CABF call.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> <a href="mailto:evsection11-bounces@cabforum.org">evsection11-bounces@cabforum.org</a> [<a href="mailto:evsection11-bounces@cabforum.org">mailto:evsection11-bounces@cabforum.org</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Jeremy Rowley<br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, April 24, 2014 10:37 AM<br><b>To:</b> 'Cecilia Kam'; <a href="mailto:Evsection11@cabforum.org">Evsection11@cabforum.org</a><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [cabf_ev_improvements] EV Section 11.13<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Thanks Cecilia. I had one change to Section 11.13.1(3). Although this change is a bit redundant, I think we want to be clear that 2(B) is still required, especially since this point could easily be lost when translating the document.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Cecilia Kam [<a href="mailto:Cecilia_Kam@symantec.com">mailto:Cecilia_Kam@symantec.com</a>] <br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, April 23, 2014 6:13 PM<br><b>To:</b> Jeremy Rowley; <a href="mailto:Evsection11@cabforum.org">Evsection11@cabforum.org</a><br><b>Subject:</b> RE: [cabf_ev_improvements] EV Section 11.13<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Hi Jeremy, <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Tried to incorporate our comments and clean up the attached doc. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Let me know what you think. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Thanks,<br>Cecilia<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Jeremy Rowley [<a href="mailto:jeremy.rowley@digicert.com">mailto:jeremy.rowley@digicert.com</a>] <br><b>Sent:</b> Friday, March 28, 2014 9:54 PM<br><b>To:</b> Cecilia Kam; <a href="mailto:Evsection11@cabforum.org">Evsection11@cabforum.org</a><br><b>Subject:</b> RE: [cabf_ev_improvements] EV Section 11.13<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Thanks Cecilia. Most of the changes depend on the order we present the ballots to the main forum. Which do we want to vote on first?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>On 11.13.1(3), I think we should make it clear that the CA needs to re-verify the method of communication by using the method of communication to communicate with the applicant. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>One 11.13.1(5), I’m not sure what you asking. That section remained essentially unchanged except for removal of the future tense (since it controls when the certificate issues) and a change to remove superfluous language. The exampled you added was not in the original language. Instead that is in 11.13.3(1)(G). Do you want to move it here instead? I have no problem moving it from 11.13.3(1) to 11.13(3)<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>On 11.13.1(6), we need to retain this language (or broaden it) because it refers to a confirming person, not a Reliable Method of Communication. If we change this language, we’ll need to heavily amend 11.10.4 as well. I believe Rich will be addressing that section as part of his role revision project.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>On 11.13.2, those changes would allow a user to reuse the request and subject of a revoked EV certificate without verification. Is that the intent? I’ll need to think about this.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Thanks again for the comments.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Jeremy<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Cecilia Kam <a href="mailto:[mailto:Cecilia_Kam@symantec.com]">[mailto:Cecilia_Kam@symantec.com]</a> <br><b>Sent:</b> Saturday, March 29, 2014 6:14 AM<br><b>To:</b> Jeremy Rowley; <a href="mailto:Evsection11@cabforum.org">Evsection11@cabforum.org</a><br><b>Subject:</b> RE: [cabf_ev_improvements] EV Section 11.13<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Hi Jeremy, <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>I think we need more time to edit Age of Validated Data (2) but here are some updates/comments in red. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Regards,<b><br></b>Cecilia<b><o:p></o:p></b></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> <a href="mailto:evsection11-bounces@cabforum.org">evsection11-bounces@cabforum.org</a> [<a href="mailto:evsection11-bounces@cabforum.org">mailto:evsection11-bounces@cabforum.org</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Jeremy Rowley<br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, March 13, 2014 9:38 AM<br><b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:Evsection11@cabforum.org">Evsection11@cabforum.org</a><br><b>Subject:</b> [cabf_ev_improvements] EV Section 11.13<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></body></html>